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Congratulations on the new built and apologies for being late to the party. I love the new look. It would be a pleasure going out for a visit. What is a good time to visit?
Being semi-retired, the schedule is quite flexible. Just be sure to avoid this weekend. We're being invaded by lunar-tics.

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Congratulations on the new built and apologies for being late to the party. I love the new look. It would be a pleasure going out for a visit. What is a good time to visit?
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Being semi-retired, the schedule is quite flexible. Just be sure to avoid this weekend. We're being invaded by lunar-tics.
Make a pit stop in Clovis, please.
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How far drive from your place?
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No idea but I'm certainly on the way to Roger's place.
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No idea but I'm certainly on the way to Roger's place.
Ivan, Scott is 4 hours north of you on Hwy 99. 235 miles. And it's just another 730 mile hop from there to my house.

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Today, the show right outside my theater was better than anything I can present inside. It was beyond 8k UHD and HDR!

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Today, the show right outside my theater was better than anything I can present inside. It was beyond 8k UHD and HDR!





I've seen that movie, years ago in an airport car park in Budapest. Excellent SFX, could have sworn the birds were in atmos too and that was years before Dolby launched it.
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Roger, I see from the other thread that you have completed the wine barrel diffusors now, do you have any further pics from the construction.

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It has been two years since we sold the original Deadwood theater (and the house it lived in). And now, Deadwood II lives: a smaller house with a larger theater -- seems about right!

The theater is operational, using all the same kit from the previous, minus the AV7702 Atmos processor which I sold at the time. The 4 Tannoy's are indeed here, on the ceiling, awaiting an Atmos processor yet to be decided [ETA: Anthem processor installed for Atmos and DTS:X 7.1.4 processing]. This ceiling is 2' higher than before, making it easier to hide speakers. Key improvements in the new theater:
1) More space. Room is wider, longer, and taller.
2) Wider screen.
3) A separate “projection booth” gives easy access to the equipment rack and PJ, and removes their noise and heat.
4) Improved isolation from the rest of the house. (Separate wing.)
5) Improved door seals and latch.
6) Improved window plugs.
7) Triple layered walls: original 1/2" sheetrock, 1/2" OSB, 5/8" sheetrock, Green Glue.

The room is quieter from outside noise and virtually inaudible in the house -- can play any time of day or night. Happy wife!









The equipment room. Easy access to all the business ends of the gear and wiring. That's another window plug at the back.







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19.4' L, 17' W, 10' H (3300 cuft)

1’ riser, full width, 7’ deep
Screen mounted 2’ from front wall

Eyes to screen front row: 115” (9.6’) (53° view angle)
rear row: 176” (14.8’) (36° view angle)

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This looks amazing. I appreciate all the details shared upfront. Would you please post color of ceiling too?
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This looks amazing. I appreciate all the details shared upfront. Would you please post color of ceiling too?
Thank you.

There is no exposed sheetrock on the ceiling. The only elements that are visible and painted are the lattice panels and the wedge diffusors, all of which were spray painted with Rustoleum flat black. All the sound panels throughout the room are black, as is the velvet on the front wall. Yet, even with all that black in use, the carpet, wood accents, and leather chairs lend a friendly feeling to the room IMHO.
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Roger, I see from the other thread that you have completed the wine barrel diffusors now, do you have any further pics from the construction.
I did not take too many pix during the build process, but I have some. Is there anything in particular of interest? This one shows how the build began.

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I did not take too many pix during the build process, but I have some. Is there anything in particular of interest? This one shows how the build began.
It was more the construction of the wine barrel diffusors I was curious about, they do look very nice.

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Thank you.

There is no exposed sheetrock on the ceiling. The only elements that are visible and painted are the lattice panels and the wedge diffusors, all of which were spray painted with Rustoleum flat black. All the sound panels throughout the room are black, as is the velvet on the front wall. Yet, even with all that black in use, the carpet, wood accents, and leather chairs lend a friendly feeling to the room IMHO.
Yes it does look very inviting. I would like to do black tones in my HT but my wife thinks it will look uninviting with lights on. So still searching for a workable color pallet. I have very little wood accents (cost prohibitive for this project). It is mostly Sheetrock. Seats are black bonded leather. My wife suggested Medium grey for the walls, light grey-blue for the ceiling, black for the front and back walls, and dark red carpet. I am not sure if this is the way to go.
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It was more the construction of the wine barrel diffusors I was curious about, they do look very nice.
Ahh. Thanks -- saw this covering one entire wall of a local restaurant and liked the look and the usability as a diffusor.

Started with a 1x4 frame, 6' wide (upper diagram). The staves I used are 34" long (YMMV). Each row on the panel uses 2 staves, so I graded them into about 10 different widths (3" to 5") so I could have matched pairs. Then separated the pairs into 2 groups so I could have the same overall height in the two finished panels.

1/4 of the staves were cut in half (red) and the other 3/4 were left whole (blue), then affixed in the basket-weave pattern (lower diagram). Some minor trimming was done to get them all to line up at the outer edges. Then I mounted each piece with a screw at each end. Once completed, we carried the panels into the room and hung them on lag bolts in the studs. They're on the heavy side, being oak.

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Yes it does look very inviting. I would like to do black tones in my HT but my wife thinks it will look uninviting with lights on. So still searching for a workable color pallet. I have very little wood accents (cost prohibitive for this project). It is mostly Sheetrock. Seats are black bonded leather. My wife suggested Medium grey for the walls, light grey-blue for the ceiling, black for the front and back walls, and dark red carpet. I am not sure if this is the way to go.
That could work nicely. Don't forget about accent lighting. That helps a lot.



Found this with a Google search of "home theater color scheme".
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Ivan, Scott is 4 hours north of you on Hwy 99. 235 miles. And it's just another 730 mile hop from there to my house.
Ok thanks. So I'm looking at a 16-18 hour drive? I would need to take off a couple of days of work. It might just be easier to get a flight.
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Roger, I see from the other thread that you have completed the wine barrel diffusors now, do you have any further pics from the construction.
Yes those diffusors came out beautiful.
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Ok thanks. So I'm looking at a 16-18 hour drive? I would need to take off a couple of days of work. It might just be easier to get a flight.
Gas alone would be $250. 2.5-hr flights are under $200 roundtrip for nonstops out of LAX or BUR to PDX. I'll pick you up at the airport.

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Yes it does look very inviting. I would like to do black tones in my HT but my wife thinks it will look uninviting with lights on. So still searching for a workable color pallet. I have very little wood accents (cost prohibitive for this project). It is mostly Sheetrock. Seats are black bonded leather. My wife suggested Medium grey for the walls, light grey-blue for the ceiling, black for the front and back walls, and dark red carpet. I am not sure if this is the way to go.
If you have nothing better to do for about 37 years, then I highly recommend you go to the website Houzz and there are more than 40,000 photos of what they call theaters. Every kind of style and color scheme you can imagine. I spent way too much time there.

This look is most certainly not for everybody (and certainly does nor ave the feel of Roger's), and may not be inviting but black and gray can work well together. Just add more gray to your liking - and a touch of red for accents. And this is with a bunch of 5000K lights on. This room had all of the treatment showing but I got carried away with the ideas presented in the thread: "The Blacker The Theater, The Better The Image".





Here is Peter M's theater:





Roger's theater has, of course, a much different feel, and is very, very cool looking. As you peruse the photos of theaters on AVS, you can find all kinds of color schemes as well. Have fun !!
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That could work nicely. Don't forget about accent lighting. That helps a lot.



Found this with a Google search of "home theater color scheme".
Wow! Thanks for finding and posting. This looks pretty close to what my wife is recommending. I will show it to her tonight.
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If you have nothing better to do for about 37 years, then I highly recommend you go to the website Houzz and there are more than 40,000 photos of what they call theaters. Every kind of style and color scheme you can imagine. I spent way too much time there.

This look is most certainly not for everybody (and certainly does nor ave the feel of Roger's), and may not be inviting but black and gray can work well together. Just add more gray to your liking - and a touch of red for accents. And this is with a bunch of 5000K lights on. This room had all of the treatment showing but I got carried away with the ideas presented in the thread: "The Blacker The Theater, The Better The Image".


Here is Peter M's theater:


Roger's theater has, of course, a much different feel, and is very, very cool looking. As you peruse the photos of theaters on AVS, you can find all kinds of color schemes as well. Have fun !!
Thanks for the more ideas. I will definitely spend part of the week (not year) at Houzz. I like the idea of accent lights. Let me try to fit them in there. It may be too late by now. Electrician is done and now sheet Roch and painting is going on.
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Wow Roger, your theater is amazing! You should try out that new fangled Dolby stuff they have out now. ;P

I'm almost emotional right now over how wonderful it's turned out. I can only dream.

You moved from where you were to where you are.

And now I'm moving from where I am to Baker City. Hopefully I find something that has a room conducive to a similar look to what you've achieved.

I'm glad our paths crossed!

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Wow Roger, your theater is amazing! You should try out that new fangled Dolby stuff they have out now. ;P

I'm glad our paths crossed!

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Hey Seth,

If you are still around, our paths can cross one last time before you head eastward. We're just a little over an hour from you. The 7.4.4 rig is up and running.

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Thanks for the more ideas. I will definitely spend part of the week (not year) at Houzz. I like the idea of accent lights. Let me try to fit them in there. It may be too late by now. Electrician is done and now sheet rock and painting is going on.
I did all my lighting (and speaker and audio wiring, too) after the sheetrock was complete. There's 5 spots lining each side wall, in the "soffits" that are all driven from the switched circuit that used to feed the lone ceiling light. I put a Lutron dimmer in there and it gets controlled remotely like the the others. 10 of those 7W LEDs are a cinch for a single dimmer.

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I did all my lighting (and speaker and audio wiring, too) after the sheetrock was complete. There's 5 spots lining each side wall, in the "soffits" that are all driven from the switched circuit that used to feed the lone ceiling light. I put a Lutron dimmer in there and it gets controlled remotely like the the others. 10 of those 7W LEDs are a cinch for a single dimmer.
Good stuff. Thanks.
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Wow! Thanks for finding and posting. This looks pretty close to what my wife is recommending. I will show it to her tonight.
The owner of this theater is @Nyal Mellor , a forum member and owner of Acoustic Frontiers. He actually just made some updates to this room. His company website chronicles at least some of the design/ build process. Definitely covers the idealogy behind the design.

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Aside from Sony, nobody makes a "room simulation" mode as good as CinemaDSP, imho. I use it every so often, when I think the soundtrack or my mood "needs" it. Everyone likes to believe they like the purest signal all the time. But it never hurts to process things sometimes. Make it the way we like it, amiright?

I played with Audyssey DSX a little bit but.... wasn't a fan.

I personally, do not use YPAO. I find all auto-REQ systems too limited. They do things the way they were programmed to. I prefer my own way so I am not using it. Full manual PEQ like you were doing.

Yes, I like the way Yamaha does things too. Just like Sony, they like to do their own thing and I like that. I am a long time fan as I'm sure you knew.
I hope Roger wouldn't mind my question as he was asking about changing the target curve too.
IIRC the YPAO does the same thing as Audyssey but if one chooses not to use it - the unit is capable of modifying each speaker's curve with a PEQ which is a long time feature of higher Yamaha receivers?

CX-A5100 seems interesting. Good price too. Unbeliveably pretty cheap in my country, less than $2.000.

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The CX-A5100 is getting old, therefore the low prices. I would rather wait and get a newer model when it arrives (prob. in the coming year) or another brand with never technology.

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REW is a fantastic tool, I use it a lot. Unfortunately, it does not have the option to output bandlimited pink noise.

In REW under the signal generator, there is an option to set a custom frequency range for pink noise. From the REW help file " Custom Filtered allows low and/or high cut filter frequencies to be set arbitrarily, subject to a minimum bandwidth of 1 octave."

So that is not band limited pink noise? If not what is band limited pink noise? When I google band limited pink noise that is what it looks like it would be to me but I am new to all of this.

I really like your tips on the door seals and the window seals design. My basement project is almost finished but on hold for now so you build has given me some ideas for when I do get to finishing it. Thank you.

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In REW under the signal generator, there is an option to set a custom frequency range for pink noise. From the REW help file " Custom Filtered allows low and/or high cut filter frequencies to be set arbitrarily, subject to a minimum bandwidth of 1 octave."

So that is not band limited pink noise? If not what is band limited pink noise? When I google band limited pink noise that is what it looks like it would be to me but I am new to all of this.
That most certainly is bandlimited noise. Thanks so much for pointing that feature out. I'd missed it all these years as I had no idea what "Custom" meant. "Custom bandwidth" I would have understood.

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Thanks. My pleasure. Gonna do a build thread for your theater?

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