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Adam's Modern Atmos Theater (new construction)

Ok I did a small project I documented on here all DIY back in 2008. Situation has changed since then and decided to go all out on my new build! I had the theater design done by Erskine who I'll have do the calibration at the end as well. The project overall is a bit budget busting and I don't want to compromise on the room so sticking to their plan, but I'm still working on and researching the equipment to potentially cut some costs vs. the recommended equipment Erskine gave me (below). The house is scheduled for completion in August 2018.

Overall my initial goals and thoughts for this room:

*Dedicated Room done right from an acoustic perspective (trying to limit noise both in and out of the room as much as possible)
*Primarily for watching movies, occassional tv/sports and gaming
*at least 2 Rows of 4 seats (I have 3 kids so we have 5 just with us)
*entry in the back of the room
*modern look with fabric panels and no columns
*Hidden speakers behind an acoustically transparent 2.35 screen
*located on the ground level not upstairs or in a basement.


From the new home side of things it was going to be tricky to go bigger than 24' in length with the rest of the design so settled on 2 rows instead of trying to squeeze in a 3rd or a bar (could potentially do a bar later though). Here is the first floor layout of the whole house:






And here is the design Erskine came up with, room is 24' x 17.5'. Note the room is on the front of the house, I had to have a window for the outside look but it will be covered completely on the inside:







Will be doing all the normal acoustic treatments - double 5/8th's sheetrock with green glue hung on clips, acoustic wall treatments (as designed by Erksine), stage and risers and floor treatments as bass traps, etc.


**Final Equipment Installed**:

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QSC SC-1120 x 3 for LCR
Triad Silver Bipole Surrounds x 4 for side and rear surround
Triad Silver Sat/9's x 4 for Atmos
DIY Subs - net 16 CU box with B&C 21DS115-4 driver x 2

Rack Equipment
Marantz AV8802A Pre-amp Processor
QSC Cinema Core 110c (DSP)
QSC DCA 1644 - Powers the 4x surrounds
QSC DCA 3422 - Powers the 2 subs
QSC DPA8.4Qn - Powers the LCR (using QSC voicing calibration via Core 110c) and 4 Atmos with one spare channel.
Stewart Studiotek 130 2.35:1 170" screen
JVC DLA X990R projector with peerless mount
Middle Atlantic Slim 5 Rack
Sony UBP-X800 Bluray Player

Using Control4 for whole house and works great to control media reciever/bluray/projector. It uses an RF remote so I can keep the rack door and everything shut without line of site or control it via ipad.

We started construction in October and currently the slab is finished with framing starting on Monday. I'm pretty excited about having a real dedicated media room thats also convenient on the first floor which will mean it gets used a whole lot more often.
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The room is dropped 2 feet from the rest of the house, the entry into the room in the back will be level with the rest of the house so you don't have a step walking in, but will drop 2' for the first row and screen wall.






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edit 5-16-18 - progress pics.












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**9/13/18 Edit**
Room is complete beyond some minor details you can't really see in pics (cleaning up and hiding some LED wiring, adding magnet stop for rack door so it stays flush closed, other misc). Star ceiling is done now as well just not able to take a good picture of it.

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You could put a serious dent in your speaker cost if you consider diy. You could buy kits for three of these for about the cost of one P6:
Titan 15 LX

Also diy subs are a great way to save money and have great performance.
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You could put a serious dent in your speaker cost if you consider diy. You could buy kits for three of these for about the cost of one P6:
Titan 15 LX

Also diy subs are a great way to save money and have great performance.
Before I started the house I was thinking hard about the 1099's, as a bit of a layman when it comes to audio speak I'm at a bit of a loss though on how to compare performance of those or the Titan's compared to a Procella.

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Excited to see this come together. I'm assuming your builders will be doing all of the theater completion as well?

Also does Erskine group not ask you what kind of budget you want to spend equipment-wise? Agreed you could really save a lot with DIY speakers.
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Before I started the house I was thinking hard about the 1099's, as a bit of a layman when it comes to audio speak I'm at a bit of a loss though on how to compare performance of those or the Titan's compared to a Procella.
There is good info on the titans and favorable comparisons to the high end jbl theater monitors so I would be confident about them but I haven't heard them or the p6. Your room is fairly large so efficient large driver speakers would probably be more dynamic in there.

I have a pair of mini statements that are great speakers. I'd love to build the full size ones.

My room is smaller but I'm currently planning three htm10 up front, htm6 for four surrounds, and four volt 6 for atmos.

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Excited to see this come together. I'm assuming your builders will be doing all of the theater completion as well?

Also does Erskine group not ask you what kind of budget you want to spend equipment-wise? Agreed you could really save a lot with DIY speakers.
Well I told them I wanted to be around $40k in total for the equipment and they came in almost double that and going into each item in detail its pretty much 'you really don't want to compromise and change that because *insert nice sounding argument here*'

I didn't go into the builder but my dad is actually a high-end home builder here in DFW, he is mostly retired now but I pulled him back in and he is superintending my house himself We'll work together on the media room, so far the unique design elements of a theater like this (using green glue, clips, stage/riser, etc.) all his subs have done before and are comfortable with. I may have Erskine's guys come out and do the actual wall treatments/finish though.
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With the size of the subs in your diagram you should be able to fit a couple of these in some 15 cubic foot (gross volume) boxes. They're on sale right now and two of those and an inuke 6000 dsp and you would have something. I do have this woofer and it is awesome. With the inuke 6k you could run one on each channel with the voice coils in series for a four ohm load per channel. Here it is with a cd for scale

http://stereointegrity.com/product/hs24-24-subwoofer/



and with a cute little 12" woofer

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Framing is underway. I need to have them move a couple 2x6's to frame in the rack in the back wall. The first floor is 12' ceilings making the media room 14' since it drops 2', will fur it down to do the room at an 11 foot ceiling.




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Sub'd. Looking forward to watching this one. I'm also doing a new, custom build, and my room in our plan is almost exactly the same size (but my equipment will be MUCH more modest than yours...lol). Getting ready to submit for permits, so probably won't be breaking ground for two months or more...so interested to follow along.

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I didn't really get into color scheme and lighting but my initial thoughts are to do something in just neutral gray/black and I'll have RGB LED's that go around the raised panels and in the soffit to create the color scheme that can be ever changing. Just playing around with some minor MS paint skills this is what I came up with tonight - use 3 colors of gray in a pattern for the walls and black (or another dark color maybe not gray/black) for the raised panel. Sconces shown on the walls are just placeholders.

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edit** Narrowed this down to a couple so its less busy.

Pattern going starting top left going down just dark, medium, light, repeating.





2 colors so less busy?







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man, i was jealous just looking at your house layout. i hope someday i have a 'motor court' of my own, haha

definitely interested to see how this all comes together

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Cool! Enjoy the ride and you're going to LOVE the end result. As an alternative for the screen, you might check with Severtson Screens. They do a lot of the IMAX screens. I used their vinyl perf screen for my theater and is spectacular. Their screen formula is almost identical to Stewart and is actually made in the same factory as Stewart.
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man, i was jealous just looking at your house layout. i hope someday i have a 'motor court' of my own, haha

definitely interested to see how this all comes together
haha thats architects for you, he also liked to call the covered patio "The Loggia" which was just to much for me lol.

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Cool! Enjoy the ride and you're going to LOVE the end result. As an alternative for the screen, you might check with Severtson Screens. They do a lot of the IMAX screens. I used their vinyl perf screen for my theater and is spectacular. Their screen formula is almost identical to Stewart and is actually made in the same factory as Stewart.

Thanks for the screen suggestion, I just read your whole thread, awesome build! Shaun actually designed mine as well, alot of those construction pics and are already helping me get a good idea of how to do things.

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Thanks for the screen suggestion, I just read your whole thread, awesome build! Shaun actually designed mine as well, alot of those construction pics and are already helping me get a good idea of how to do things.
Glad my build is giving you some ideas One piece of advice though once it's all completed...I would definitely have Shawn calibrate the audio / video. Makes a world of difference!
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Great build!

I saw your checkerboard design and it reminded my of the first design attemt I was trying to do with my current theater. I was going for something similiar but more "random". Maybe you could use that as inspiration if you're trying out different things.

I did end up with something completely different though
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Theater framing is done.





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Got my GOM samples today, the material look so much better in person than they do on their website (highly recommend asking for samples!). The wolf is a really nice gray with a hint of blue in it which I will definitely use for the lighter color of my walls, the graphite is ok but next to the onyx (true black) it just looks kinda like a faded black so not sure. I still haven't decided on a wall pattern yet beyond onyx on the screen wall and a mix of a grays on the side walls.

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Their screen formula is almost identical to Stewart and is actually made in the same factory as Stewart.
That statement is not true on so many levels. Not even remotely. Stewart makes their own screens at their facility, their own formulation, and does not make material for anyone else.
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That statement is not true on so many levels. Not even remotely. Stewart makes their own screens at their facility, their own formulation, and does not make material for anyone else.
I didn't say that Stewart made their screens. I said that Severtson's material is almost identical to Stewart and is made in the same facility to which that statement came directly from Severtson...
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I've requested samples of the screen material from both, Stewart is on the way Severtson hasn't responded yet.

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Adam's Modern Atmos Theater (new construction)

Not a whole lot to report just yet, framing is complete and iv started building some backer boxes. I also decided to do a diy sub build using B&C 21ds115-4 drivers in a net 15 CF ported enclosure. Started a build thread in the diy forum but it’s so cold I can’t do much gluing just yet.





Shot from the study looking into the closet with the rack, easy access to the back of it with front of the rack facing the media room:


Media room is the far left window...iv grabbed some scraps before they come haul all this off, I keep thinking about all the projects that could be done with all that wood






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I think I said it before, but that window will be completely sealed off, just needed it for exterior look with the room on the front of the house.

Finished the 2 backer boxes for the rears with 3/4” mdf, green glue, and 1/2” Sheetrock (still need to caulk them). These are the only 2 that go into the walls, rest are on the Sheetrock or in the soffit. Oh and ignore the 2 spots framed for the rears, it’s framed wrong but I only need 7/8” so will just cut into the studs.




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Not HT related, but I'm curious to know what that room adjacent to the Master Ensuite is?
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