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post #31 of 782 Old 03-28-2018, 03:15 PM
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I've decided to delete the bathroom door and access to the sliding doors (behind the screen) from the theater.

While it would have been nice to hop out of your seat and go straight to the bathroom through the side door, it causes me noise isolation issues, step height issues and generally increases my costs and complications, so it needs to go.
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The theater entrance just didn't have enough 'drama' with the single door stuck in the corner of the room. I really want to capture a little of the magic of going to the theater so I'm going to put in a mini version of my original hallway with a digital 'now playing' sign. I know it means that some of the seats in the theater wont get the ideal sound, but this is an exercise in balance between different aspects of the experience.

I'm feeling pretty good about this layout...









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What do you use for your renders?
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For HVAC I'm going to install a stand-alone unit dedicated to just the theater room as the options to extend my in-house AC to this area are close to nil. The house was built on a steep hill in the 50's and has been retro-fitted with AC in the 90's. Due to the physical layout, getting ducting into this area will be extremely expensive and time consuming.

I'm looking at something like this to serve the cooling needs of the room...

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I would look into this one as well:
https://www.amazon.com/MRCOOL-17-5-S.../dp/B01DMDWSZ6

With this one everything is ready to go and you don't need an HVAC person to hook anything up or test any lines. It's DIY friendly. Several good installation videos out there.
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I would look into this one as well:
https://www.amazon.com/MRCOOL-17-5-S.../dp/B01DMDWSZ6

With this one everything is ready to go and you don't need an HVAC person to hook anything up or test any lines. It's DIY friendly. Several good installation videos out there.
Thanks, they look like they both use a very similar set up.
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Thanks, they look like they both use a very similar set up.
Yes, I think with the Seville you will either need to buy additional tools or still have an HVAC contractor come out for final hookups. With the Mr Cool it is pretty DIY friendly, but I have not installed one yet. After getting quotes for $4-6K for a pretty simple minisplit run I decided to go the DIY route. It looks pretty straightforward and I have somebody who will charge me $25 an hour who is very handy to help me install.
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For my floating room base, I bought 150 U-boat style rubber joist isolators from this site for $180 shipped, best price I have found...

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Alternative seating layout to save some space and add an extra seat. Day to day use will rarely see more than 4 people in the room, so it's not really worth wasting too much space for seats that will only be filled on special occasions.

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That makes sense on seating. My kids are all small still/petite so I am adding two loveseat options for my theater seating which allows you to put more butts in seats vs each person having their own dedicated seat. The chairs still have power recline and you can add a remobable armrest/cup holder if you want to better divide the space:

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That makes sense on seating. My kids are all small still/petite so I am adding two loveseat options for my theater seating which allows you to put more butts in seats vs each person having their own dedicated seat. The chairs still have power recline and you can add a remobable armrest/cup holder if you want to better divide the space:

That's pretty cool, I do like the theater row option where there are 4 seats but the middle two are essentially a love seat, sounds like the same kind of deal
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I'm playing with the idea of 'sawtooth' walls for a combination of light control and architectural interest. I don't want the room to be an endless sea of black, it is a significant space in my home and as such needs to add to the value of my house rather than being a weird ugly room only good when you turn out all the lights.

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Im just not a fan of bar seating in home theaters BUT to each their own and I like the staggered wavy wall design.
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Im just not a fan of bar seating in home theaters BUT to each their own and I like the staggered wavy wall design.
Yeah I'd rather not do it, but space forces my hand a little, as with all smaller rooms it's an exercise in compromises
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AFter walking the physical space tonight before meeting with my contractor tomorrow, it became obvious that 4-wide theater recliners were probably out of the question if I'm going to keep the room from feeling awkward or cramped.

Also I was wasting space and introducing another unnecessary weak spot by have two doors come into the room from the entrance lobby. I ditched the second door and converted one side of the lobby into an area that could house a small snack bar and then introduced a counter height AV 'cupboard' in the back of the room which still allows me to keep my rear channels pushed back into the corners.





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First, Im completely blown away with the renderings. What a great opportunity to see your room before the $! Thought I would give my two cents. The entrance certainly eats into your theater room space, which is always valuable space. I think you might regret it bc it cramps your room. It certainly is reminiscent of a cinema which is cool. But not sure you have space for it. I thought a prior rendering worked- where you could open door if people were in bar area. But close it when you’re not hosting.

When you read people’s build threads with smaller rooms a common theme seems to be wishing for more space.


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Also if you wanted to use barn wood boards for the entrance wall, you still can with a single swinging door.


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I have to bring my seats away from the back wall if I want my sound to work well so the entry way just uses that space. I know a few of the none critical seats are up against the back but it's a compromise.

I don't want to run into all the sound issues associated with oversize doors and openings but I still want to have a feature entrance that captures the magic of entering a traditional movie theater. My room is as much about asthetic as the engineered movie watching experience.

I could make it larger but then I'd be taking away from my bar area so something has to give at some point.

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The mini-lobby design is neat. The symmetrical version would give more of a 'commercial theatre' feel; the snack bar in there is certainly convenient but possibly distracting if people are digging things out of there during a movie.
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Well I did miss something that was staring me in the face. The area between the pinball machines was pretty much dead floor space as far as the bar is concerned so I may as well turn that into the entrance lobby and make a big feature out of that without sacrificing space in theater room. This also brings back the symmetry and a simpler layout.





After meeting with my contractor this morning I've decided to lose the sofet/ledge at the back of the room due to height concerns and to give me more flexibility for the rear riser. Also I'm losing the closet areas at the front of the theater that I was going to use to enclose my subs and speakers. I can use a simple free standing frame there covered in acoustic transparent material rather than building a structure that may bite me in the ass later.

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Post 51 is my favorite render so far that you have done.

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Post 51 is my favorite render so far that you have done.
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Leaving this here for future reference, a very simple and easy to understand intro to acoustic basics...

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wow! Jealous of your space! I'm in San Diego too (east county) and don't have anything like that!

I rarely post as I have little to nothing to offer, but, I'm just wishing a fellow SD resident good luck!

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wow! Jealous of your space! I'm in San Diego too (east county) and don't have anything like that!

I rarely post as I have little to nothing to offer, but, I'm just wishing a fellow SD resident good luck!
Thanks Man, sounds like we are in a similar part of town.
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These renders look really nice. Can’t wait to see the finished product!
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These renders look really nice. Can’t wait to see the finished product!
Thanks Jason. I just saw the article on your build, wow what a huge project, well done!!
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Leaving this here for future info, cleared up some of the more basic questions for a 1st time builder like me...

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