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Looks like even bass response will be tricky with the seating positions, but a standard four-corner layout may help even it out. What is the distance between the screen and MLP?
Screen to projector lens should be around 13ft-14ft depending on real world design decisions.
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Nice renderings. I have thought of going big in my basement for my theater, but would have to work around a column or pay to have it moved back if possible. Here are some renderings I did in 5D on my tablet.

The last one is what I have currently just framed so I could move the north wall and go bigger, but would cost more to finish.
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I would recommend a black out curtain that you can slide out in front of your wet bar area and the AV rack area to reduce reflection and/or glare during the movie. I like that layout a lot more than previous designs.

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That's a great idea. They will be recessed so there will be room to hang a curtain in front.

Picked up a nice addition to the bar build last night from the local classifieds. Great shape, $400.




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Time to start building a bar!



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Pretty good progress for a days work.

Ran out of materials for the top. Partical board layer needs finishing then a final layer of MDF before I wrap the top in patina copper and adding under counter RGB LED lighting.

I'll use regular laminate counter top for the work surface and put a pre-made 36" wide cupboard and drawers in the middle slot.

For the base I am trying to decide between distressed/stained wood panels or stack stone.

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Speaker placement question.

My intention is to place 3 RP-280F towers for LCR behind my screen and just have a treated rear wall. Because I have to be very economical with my room depth with regard to throw distance, what is the minimum recommended depth I can get away with behind my screen? The RP-280F are 16.4" deep.

I'm wondering if I should consider a baffle wall with in-walls. But then the question is what speakers? Maybe Klipsch PRO-250RPW?

Also on a side note, I'm a bit concerned about reflections behind an AT screen from those fancy-lad copper colored cones

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RGB LED lighting recessed into the underside of the bar top

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Speaker placement question.

My intention is to place 3 RP-280F towers for LCR behind my screen and just have a treated rear wall. Because I have to be very economical with my room depth with regard to throw distance, what is the minimum recommended depth I can get away with behind my screen? The RP-280F are 16.4" deep.

I'm wondering if I should consider a baffle wall with in-walls. But then the question is what speakers? Maybe Klipsch PRO-250RPW?

Also on a side note, I'm a bit concerned about reflections behind an AT screen from those fancy-lad copper colored cones
The RP-280F like most Klipsch towers has rear port so I would think you wild want that away from the front wall at least 6" and I have read you want around 6" of clearance between speaker and screen.

I have thought of using the PRO-250RPW's, but would have backer boxes in the wall for them. As for reflections, are you talking sound of light? If light, leave the grills on. For sound I wouldn't think it would be an issue.

What are you doing for subs? How deep and talk are they?

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As for reflections, are you talking sound of light? If light, leave the grills on. For sound I wouldn't think it would be an issue.

What are you doing for subs? How deep and talk are they?
Yeah I meant light reflections. I'll probably be going with SVS subs.
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Further progress on the bar top. A sandwich of OSB, particle board and pine. Trim added and profile routed. Sanding done, pretty happy with the look of this so far...



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I'm pretty excited to say I just scored a nice deal on a factory refurbished Denon 6300H for $1,199 inc tax and shipping, I think that's a great price for one of the main pieces of my audio system. woo hoo!!!!



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By chance was that from accessories4less? Nice deal.

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I also just bought my first pair of SVS Prime Elevations. I figured I may as well start to enjoy all my Atmos content in my current setup in my garage arcade with the speakers I have along with the 6300H and these new height channels. There's lots of work ahead on the theater room but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy some down time with my current room.

I have 6 Energy HB-1s, 1 Energy CB-1, a large 12" Powered sub (no idea what brand) and now the SVS heights to run in 7.1.2 mode for now on the 6300H, should be fun!!
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RGB LEDs inserted into recessed channel in the base of the bar top and supports in place.

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I built this bottle shelf to sit in the corner and run just behind the bar under the TV. It is the same height as the beer fridge. (62"). The LEDs are on the same wifi controller as those in the bar top. The back of the shelves are aluminum.



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Congratulations on snagging the 6300. I grabbed a 4300 earlier this year from them. and I like it. Just a word of warning that series of receivers has been occasionally flaky. One day it works and the next day, an input, an output or the sound won't work. If you reset the microprocessor it gets back to normal. You may want to save your set up settings to a USB drive unless they were the cause. I followed these instructions and it brought my unit back to normal, last week it brought another unit I had installed back from not having any sound at all.

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I built this bottle shelf to sit in the corner and run just behind the bar under the TV. It is the same height as the beer fridge. (62"). The LEDs are on the same wifi controller as those in the bar top. The back of the shelves are aluminum.



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Awesome work! Are you going off of any plans for the bar that you could point me to or are you just winging it?
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Awesome work! Are you going off of any plans for the bar that you could point me to or are you just winging it?
I'm completely winging it lol. Whenever I build a project I do it in my head for weeks before I ever pick up a tool, seems to work for me. There are some great bar build YouTube videos that I watched which gave me some inspiration

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The end of a long weekend of work but I have something to show for it.



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Congratulations on snagging the 6300. I grabbed a 4300 earlier this year from them. and I like it. Just a word of warning that series of receivers has been occasionally flaky. One day it works and the next day, an input, an output or the sound won't work. If you reset the microprocessor it gets back to normal. You may want to save your set up settings to a USB drive unless they were the cause. I followed these instructions and it brought my unit back to normal, last week it brought another unit I had installed back from not having any sound at all.

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Thanks for this info Jeff. I will be setting up the receiver downstairs in the arcade room until the new room is done so I'll have time to give it a good long test in a 7.1.2 configuration. My SVS Prime heights already arrived, the 6300 wont be here until Friday.
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Today I ordered the tabletop epoxy and tools to do the flood coat, should be here in a few days, so that should be an interesting challenge. I have a friend that does a lot of custom furniture, including large bar surfaces so I picked his brain a little and he gave me some little tips to go with.

Also for the base of the bar I went ahead and bought a crate of 60 reclaimed wine box pieces...



Going to make a collage out of these. Also I went ahead and picked up a 7ft brushed brass foot rail kit, because hey it's not a bar without a brass foot rail AMMARITE????



I may also put an 8"-10" baseboard along the base of the bar and stain it the same as the top to give it a better 'frame' and visual definition rather than having the crates go all the way to the floor. Haven't decided yet.
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I've spent the last few evenings rearranging my existing modest little speaker setup in my garage arcade. In the past I just had all the surround speakers (5.1 config) mounted up toward the ceiling so they were out of the way and disappeared from sight. But in learning more about proper setup for my theater build, I decided to move them down to proper listening height and added some extras so I could take advantage of the Denon 6300H I ordered.

Now I have my front LR at ear height pointing at my main listening seat, center is just below my screen pointing slightly up at me. Sides are aligned directly with my ear line about 24 inches above. I added rear surrounds which are about 8ft behind, spaced to match the width of the front left and right. I also added two SVS Prime elevations to the ceiling about 5ft in front of the seating position, matched to the width of the front left and rights. (I plan to add two more SVS elevations to the rear height channels soon). I also moved my 15" sub to the middle of the room, right behind my seats.

I'm very impressed with the elevation speakers and their mounting system...



My Denon 6300H arrived last night, so I got it all hooked up and immediately dove into some of my Atmos sound demos so I could experience the full object-based sound for the first time. WOW it sounded just amazing!!!! I haven't had time to do the room correction yet but even without that, and my humble little hodge-podge speakers in a thrown together room the effect is quite impressive.

I'll have more time in the evenings this weekend to do the room correction and then get into playing with the Dolby Surround/DTS-X Neural upmixing for legacy 5.1/7.1 titles as well as cranking up some of my native Atmos encoded goodies!

This setup will give me something to play with in between the work ahead on the main room build.
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Nice work on the bar and bottle shelf! Do you have any more detail on how you mounted the LEDs in the back of the shelf? I'm planning to do something like that in glass fronted cabinets eventually, and have been considering how to mount the strips. Liiks like yours might be angled back on a piece of trim or something? Really great work so far.

Oh, and I may have missed this, but are you keeping most of the arcade machines out in the garage after the new rooms are done?
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Nice work on the bar and bottle shelf! Do you have any more detail on how you mounted the LEDs in the back of the shelf? I'm planning to do something like that in glass fronted cabinets eventually, and have been considering how to mount the strips. Liiks like yours might be angled back on a piece of trim or something? Really great work so far.

Oh, and I may have missed this, but are you keeping most of the arcade machines out in the garage after the new rooms are done?
I just put a strip of 1" quarter round in the back of the shelf and then glued the LED strip behind it so it's hidden from direct view and just reflects up onto the aluminum backing.

Not sure on the arcade machines, I may have to sell a decent chunk of them to finance the theater build, only time will tell.
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The wine crate panels arrived today and I have to say I am seriously impressed with the quality and variety I received.

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I stained various panels with different shades and strengths of colors. Once these are dry I will finish all the stained and non stained with hand rubbed Poly.

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After the hand rubbed Poly these pieces started to come up really nice. Should look good once I start putting them all on the base of the bar.

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