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I have my 3000D power cable connected to the TP-link smart outlet where I can cut the power off via a button on my iphone App. In case one wonder if he/she could lose the settings cutting its power off instead of pushing its power ON/OFF button, the answer is NO as I just verified by viewing the settings on the front display after cutting it power off and turning it back on again. One thing to share is that if you have the 3000D turned on and launch NXedit, it will load whatever saved/stored on the the set up tab (see hi-light from picture). I happened to have a total different configuration stored from a while back and just found this out as I was going crazy that I kept losing the settings every time I launched NXedit. Any way, I changed all the settings between tabs to how I like and click the first 'Setup' tab to 'store' and name it as 30Hz LPF and now it launches the correct configuration when I launch NXEdit.

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I have a dumb question. How is everyone connecting the input and output to the NX3000D amp? I recieved it today, and was expecting rca inputs as well as a spot for speaker wire, but this looks different.
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These
https://www.amazon.com/TISINO-Adapte...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
and rca cables to sub(s).
Or these
https://www.amazon.com/Devinal-Speak...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
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Many other combinations, of course, depending on needs/distance/preference.
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These
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and rca cables to sub(s).
Or these
https://www.amazon.com/Devinal-Speak...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
and speaker wire to sub(s).
Many other combinations, of course, depending on needs/distance/preference.
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Thank you for that. Do i need the female or male set of the devinal? I will run an rca from my reciever to the nx3000.
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Thank you for that. Do i need the female or male set of the devinal? I will run an rca from my reciever to the nx3000.
For input you can also use rca to 1/4" mono adapter, like these. If you use one of those just make sure you get the mono ones, like in the link, and not a stereo one.

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Thank you for that. Do i need the female or male set of the devinal? I will run an rca from my reciever to the nx3000.
Look on the back of the 3000 - you need the three pin male.
As I said, there are many ways of doing what you need. You can get a cable that's rca on one end and xlr on the other.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=4777
Just about any of these options will work equally well.
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I've been getting very little spl from my ported full riser on sorbothane 50duro. Haven't touched my settings I months. I got sidetracked pimpin the riser , buying speakers and amps. I'm carrying the theme to the subs as well
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Anybody seen / used these as BOSS isolators : https://www.auralex.com/product/u-boat-floor-floaters/
less than $4 each

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Anybody seen / used these as BOSS isolators : https://www.auralex.com/product/u-boat-floor-floaters/
less than $4 each
very firm. unlikely they will provide enough movement but i might be wrong.....i actually have a bunch of these, i used them to isolate my stage and riser (not a BOSS yet)
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I read an Audioholics article from 2007 where they used them on a "passive" BOSS riser - one that didn't have any drivers mounted to it but relied on the external subs to move it and the review said it worked quite well. Just thought I'd throw them out there for opinions - would be interesting to see if you could try them out.
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Does anybody here know Xmax of the Crowsons? I'm wondering how they'd compare to Powersoft's Mover.

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The crossbars inside my couch are fairly low to the ground. With two 3/4 pieces of plywood I would be able to get the jbls to the front of the couch. With 3 3/4 pieces I can get them to the middle of the couch. Would this be sufficient? There is no way to get them all the way to the back of the couch. How has middle placement worked for others? Also, what I am truly seeking is tactile response and specifically “chest slam” because I’m missing a lot of this on concrete floors without turning up the SPL very high. Does the boss provide chest slam even when limiting them to the prescribed 40hz due to natural feel? Thank you.
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The crossbars inside my couch are fairly low to the ground. With two 3/4 pieces of plywood I would be able to get the jbls to the front of the couch. With 3 3/4 pieces I can get them to the middle of the couch. Would this be sufficient? There is no way to get them all the way to the back of the couch. How has middle placement worked for others? Also, what I am truly seeking is tactile response and specifically “chest slam” because I’m missing a lot of this on concrete floors without turning up the SPL very high. Does the boss provide chest slam even when limiting them to the prescribed 40hz due to natural feel? Thank you.

Chest slam is in the 60-80Hz region, which the boss is not made for. Sealed nearfield subs would do what you're looking for. The placement doesn't have such a big impact as you might be thinking, middle of the couch is perfectly fine.

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The crossbars inside my couch are fairly low to the ground. With two 3/4 pieces of plywood I would be able to get the jbls to the front of the couch. With 3 3/4 pieces I can get them to the middle of the couch. Would this be sufficient? There is no way to get them all the way to the back of the couch. How has middle placement worked for others? Also, what I am truly seeking is tactile response and specifically “chest slam” because I’️m missing a lot of this on concrete floors without turning up the SPL very high. Does the boss provide chest slam even when limiting them to the prescribed 40hz due to natural feel? Thank you.

Chest slam is in the 60-80Hz region, which the boss is not made for. Sealed nearfield subs would do what you're looking for. The placement doesn't have such a big impact as you might be thinking, middle of the couch is perfectly fine.
Ok. Thank you. So during a movie the boss platform would only shake during ULF noises like an earthquake but not during something like handgun shots? How often would the boss be engaged during a movie with the suggested 40hz limit? It’s going to be fairly big a job to get this built so want to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze. If it’s only really for the odd ULF effect I’m not sure it would be worth it. Appreciate the honest feedback.
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The crossbars inside my couch are fairly low to the ground. With two 3/4 pieces of plywood I would be able to get the jbls to the front of the couch. With 3 3/4 pieces I can get them to the middle of the couch. Would this be sufficient? There is no way to get them all the way to the back of the couch. How has middle placement worked for others? Also, what I am truly seeking is tactile response and specifically “chest slamâ€Â because I’️m missing a lot of this on concrete floors without turning up the SPL very high. Does the boss provide chest slam even when limiting them to the prescribed 40hz due to natural feel? Thank you.

Chest slam is in the 60-80Hz region, which the boss is not made for. Sealed nearfield subs would do what you're looking for. The placement doesn't have such a big impact as you might be thinking, middle of the couch is perfectly fine.
Ok. Thank you. So during a movie the boss platform would only shake during ULF noises like an earthquake but not during something like handgun shots? How often would the boss be engaged during a movie with the suggested 40hz limit? It’s going to be fairly big a job to get this built so want to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze. If it’s only really for the odd ULF effect I’m not sure it would be worth it. Appreciate the honest feedback.
Please keep in mind that I’m probably not getting any ULF at the moment with my concrete floor. So it may be that I don’t know what I’m missing? Lol. I appreciate the enlightenment and feel free to let me know what I’m missing.
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Ok. Thank you. So during a movie the boss platform would only shake during ULF noises like an earthquake but not during something like handgun shots? How often would the boss be engaged during a movie with the suggested 40hz limit? It’s going to be fairly big a job to get this built so want to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze. If it’s only really for the odd ULF effect I’m not sure it would be worth it. Appreciate the honest feedback.

If you don't BEQ, you're losing out big time on the BOSS. It's a very nice addition. I dislike the feeling of anything tactile above 25Hz, which doesn't originate from SPL. The BOSS is only really meant for ULF imo

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Ok. Thank you. So during a movie the boss platform would only shake during ULF noises like an earthquake but not during something like handgun shots? How often would the boss be engaged during a movie with the suggested 40hz limit? It’️s going to be fairly big a job to get this built so want to make sure the juice is worth the squeeze. If it’️s only really for the odd ULF effect I’️m not sure it would be worth it. Appreciate the honest feedback.

If you don't BEQ, you're losing out big time on the BOSS. It's a very nice addition. I dislike the feeling of anything tactile above 25Hz, which doesn't originate from SPL. The BOSS is only really meant for ULF imo
Thank you. Can you give some examples from a movie wherein the ULF with the boss would be utilized? I don’t think I’ve felt ULF with my setup on concrete floor. So gunshots have kind of been my wheelhouse.
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Thank you. Can you give some examples from a movie wherein the ULF with the boss would be utilized? I don’t think I’ve felt ULF with my setup on concrete floor. So gunshots have kind of been my wheelhouse.

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Thank you. Can you give some examples from a movie wherein the ULF with the boss would be utilized? I don’️t think I’️ve felt ULF with my setup on concrete floor. So gunshots have kind of been my wheelhouse.

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What's your subwoofer setup?
I have dual FF v1811s.
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Build is going well. Quick question on the canitlever design the front isolators should be placed directly under the sofa feet correct? But the rears should be slightly back of the center of the drivers.
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xperetpredator....Thanks for the update and sorry for the late reply. Been doing a bit of college football watching and a whole lot of celebrating after the Tigers/Bama game Yes, that's correct, the front isos will be under your front furniture legs and the back isos will be slightly back of the center of the drivers instead of under the back legs.

Looking forward to hearing your initial impressions after firing up your BOSS.

Hope this helps.
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xperetpredator....Thanks for the update and sorry for the late reply. Been doing a bit of college football watching and a whole lot of celebrating after the Tigers/Bama game [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG] Yes, that's correct, the front isos will be under your front furniture legs and the back isos will be slightly back of the center of the drivers instead of under the back legs.

Looking forward to hearing your initial impressions after firing up your BOSS.

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Thank you. That is what I did. It's built. Just waiting for Amazon to deliver the connectors for the amp tomorrow. Been reading up on the settings for the amp. From what I gather I need to set my avr crossover for my bass to 80hz from 120 that I have currently.? In reading gup on the manual to understand the settings to figure out what I need to do there.
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Thank you. That is what I did. It's built. Just waiting for Amazon to deliver the connectors for the amp tomorrow. Been reading up on the settings for the amp. From what I gather I need to set my avr crossover for my bass to 80hz from 120 that I have currently.? In reading gup on the manual to understand the settings to figure out what I need to do there.
xpertpredator....sounds like you'll be using a Behringer since you mentioned connectors for the amp. If so, and it has DSP, go ahead and keep you're AVR settings like they are and just use the Behringer to apply the LPF. Start at 80Hz and see how you like it. Don't be afraid to try lower LPF's also (60Hz, 40Hz, etc). Just keep watching some of your favorite bass demo scenes that you're familiar with until you find an LPF you like.

The "LPF for LFE" setting I refer to in Post 29 is for those that aren't using any DSP after the AVR. That's a setting in one of the AVR menus. For those with DSP after the amp, the BOSS signal can be shaped accordingly after the AVR using that DSP instead.

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I’m going to be building the boss over the next couple of weeks. If I wanted to add buttkickers later would i install them on the same platform and if so, in what way (under couch feet or attached directly to platform under the couch)? I’m going to be using three sheets of 3/4x4x10 plywood so don’t know if that would make a difference.
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What is the best way to prevent the couch feet from sliding on the platform? It’s going to be a tight fit with the drivers and I don’t want the couch to move and damage them. I was thinking of little Velcro tabs where one side would stick to the platform and the other to the couch feet, thereby joining them? Also, Would this effect performance? If there is a better way let me know. Thanks!
Here is what I did. Not sure if it will work for you or not. The seat's feet fit in the cup;
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What is the best way to prevent the couch feet from sliding on the platform? It’️s going to be a tight fit with the drivers and I don’️t want the couch to move and damage them. I was thinking of little Velcro tabs where one side would stick to the platform and the other to the couch feet, thereby joining them? Also, Would this effect performance? If there is a better way let me know. Thanks!
Here is what I did. Not sure if it will work for you or not. The seat's feet fit in the cup;
That’s a great idea. Won’t work for mine because the feet are quite flush to the frame. Going to find another solution. Probably some very short 0.5x0.5 pieces.
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I’m going to be building the boss over the next couple of weeks. If I wanted to add buttkickers later would i install them on the same platform and if so, in what way (under couch feet or attached directly to platform under the couch)? I’m going to be using three sheets of 3/4x4x10 plywood so don’t know if that would make a difference.
FLViking....Thanks for the update on your build and design. I'd plan to add the BK's directly to the platform. Just like the drivers, the closer they are located to the back feet, the more TR you'll feel being delivered to your butt and you won't have to turn them up as much as a result. Keeping the volume lower is helpful for BK's as other members have reported loud clanking noises with them as the volume is increased. The BK's combined with the BOSS platform will help with that situation.

With your thick and heavy platform, locating them further away from the back feet becomes less important because that platform won't be bending very much at all, which is a very good thing. Just make sure to glue and screw each layer together. Any energy spent bending a BOSS platform is energy not making it to your butt. Because your platform will be heavier, that will also help with the low end response of your platform when floating on the isolators below.

Some members, have placed the BK's in a cantilever location behind their furniture on the BOSS platform and have reported good results. @imureh did this after a few months of having his BOSS only platform by adding some very sturdy shelves behind his furniture bolted to the BOSS platform and is reporting great results. I only mention this as a case in point where, if you can't fit the rather large BK's to the BOSS platform directly below your furniture, they can always be retrofit later behind your furniture with a bolt-on platform.

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use the Behringer to apply the LPF. Start at 80Hz and see how you like it.
Again, because of the way it works, I'd suggest instead a high pass with negative gain, and then just increase the gain on the amp. You'll want to start lower than 80Hz, though.
Or, come to think of it, BOTH!
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NEVER MIND. As demonstrated later, this does NOT work in the DEQ panel. LP with +dB is the way to go.
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What is the best way to prevent the couch feet from sliding on the platform? It’s going to be a tight fit with the drivers and I don’t want the couch to move and damage them. I was thinking of little Velcro tabs where one side would stick to the platform and the other to the couch feet, thereby joining them? Also, Would this effect performance? If there is a better way let me know. Thanks!


I have used sticky Velcro for this and it has worked just fine.


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