Originally Posted by SBuger
Yep I’ve only got 3 JBLs in the full riser (1 per seat) and MAs on top of platform.
– yep they combine well on top of the riser.
I gotta say though, the more time I spend with this BOSS the more I love it. I messed with it quite a bit today and it’s just so good. In fact, I may completely do away with all other TR components, except the VNF subs. Between the BOSS and VNFs combined (I love my VNFs too), I don’t know that I’ve ever felt more natural, realistic and intense (when needed) TR on these movie tracks. The BOSS is very, very, very good!!!!!!!!! Actually, I can’t hardly believe just how good it is. After todays sessions, I think if I use my MAs at all, it’ll only be in the 10hz and under range. I need to mess with them some more in the mix down real low only and see. The MAs are great too and have serious power (I’ve got 6 of them and love them) and they feel really similar, but the BOSS just feels so right in so many ways on these movie tracks, almost to the point of being pretty freaky/uncanny that it’s so real feeling. I’m seriously impressed with this thing, especially in combo with my VNFs (for me, I think it may just be a match made in heaven
Thanks, Tim, for sharing your ‘baby’ with us!!! It really is pretty crazy just how realistic this thing feels once you get it dialed in well to work with your seating type.
Since I’ve got room for 3 more JBLs in my full riser (6’' x 40” x 8’) I may put in 3 more JBLs for 6. I don’t even know if I need them though. At least it didn't seem like it today.
EDIT: Oh yeah I forgot to mention, Im also running 28 of the Hudson 2.5" Isos. 14 on bottom of platform and 14 on top.
Ok guys, update again here adding to yesterdays experiences ^^^. I did tons of messing around yesterday and think I was kind of numb by the end of it all. At this point sometimes, its kind of hard to feel what's what as senses are somewhat dulled from so much of it.
I have a little different opinion about it today with being fresh and all. What changed you may ask?? LOL Well, not the BOSS, I still LOVE this friggin thing!!!!!
BUT, I'm truly digging the MAs being back in the mix today. The key was moving its LPF down to 16hz BW12db/oct instead of set at 22hz like I had it. So, it's set just like the BOSS now with both at 16hz BW 12db/oct, plus, running an LS
,Q of 0.8 and +3db on the BOSS and MAs. And was able to bump the level up on both by about 2db as well.
I just used the street chase scene in "Venom" (BEQ'd of course for Full Band) which is what I was mainly using yesterday, and HOLY F'**KING Sh*T!!!!!!!!!
Still very natural and real feeling just like yesterday, but good god, intensity just went though the roof this time with the addition of the MAs to the BOSS+VNFs. TR intensity was so insane feeling a lot of times that it was almost a cringe fest (a wonderful cringe fest that is lol) LMAO. GAWD I loved it hehhehehehe!!!!! I think this may be the most extreme feeling I've had the TR in my system yet in this room. And this was at -20mv. Too much intensity maybe? .....Nah, not today at least LOL I loved every second of it, as this is what I was wanting even more of I think ...That feeling I was trying to describe last night in one of my posts about the drop down at the end of the log ride feel or roller coaster going over the top. I seemed to have had it in spades today and making me do the involuntary tighten up thing. I've been chasing this for a while now trying to get more of it. Love, Love, Love this feel. In the past, the only way I was able to get it was from the BK LFEs in the mix. I'm not even running them now which is cool. So far, these settings with VNFs + BOSS + MAs seem to be bringing it to a whole new level for me. I think I'm on the ultimate high from it right now LOL
- After you try out the BOSS by itself and your VNFs with it as well, be sure to try running your MAs with it too in the mix on top of the platform. If you can get the settings of it all right and working together as one, I think you'll be blown away with the combo.
Originally Posted by imureh
Thanks Shelby. I am not sure I am feeling the under 10hz. I had tried some test tones and I star feeling at 10hz. Not sure if it’s due to the thickness of my BOSS or the less rigid seating. My seats are sitting a bit higher than the drivers to allow them to be accommodated so the BOSS ended up being 3.5 inches thick where the chairs sit. Any ideas how to get the feel below 10hz? See pics. My NX3000D is running in bridge mode with 3 drivers.
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Hmmmm ...well maybe for starters try adding an LS at 10hz to 12hz like I did on top of the LPF that you are running. And or drop your LPF lower from your 20hz to a little lower like mine around 16hz. Then raise the gain on the BOSS to get more low end TR out of it. Between the two you should get more super low ULF.
Originally Posted by harrisu
No duddeeee. Don't add 3 more drivers. Instead, take those 3 driers and build a mini Riser and educate us the difference b/w the two
Waiitttt whattttt???? You have 28 Isos????? really woowww. how far apart are you running them? Why so many? Also why on top? Is there something sitting on top of ISO that are placed on top? Please post a pic. Would be very interesting to see.
LOL ..I am intrigued with the mini Riser since carp said he can run it full range and has to LPF his full riser at 30-40hz. Cold be partially seating, but may be not. At any rate, I'm still loving my full riser, but does make me curios about the mini.
Yeah I know, 28 isos is crazy!! I think so too, but hey, it's working so I'm sticking with it
I've got 14 on the bottom, and then 14 on the top as well, mainly because I'm running Crowson MAs on top of the platform to combine them in the mix with the BOSS and VNFs. I need this many on top with 3 seats and MAs. So they are double stacked basically (in series) and also more in parallel spread out along the riser. I could do this as well even if I didn't have the MAs in there. GK runs them stacked in series as well, or at least he did with his 18" BOSS. Not sure what he's doing with the mini he just built.
Ok, took some pics so you can see what I'm talking about. Real dark in my room, but did the best I could with flash.
Here is a shot of the 3 seats from the back to show what I'm working with on the full riser 6" x 40" x 8' ... 3 VNFs + 6 MAs (2 per seat) + Full Riser BOSS:
And a shot from the back corner. Iso on the Bottom and one on the top in between the plywood and seat foot underneath the armrest:
Then along the front I've got them spaced out about every 15" or so for 7 across the front under the bottom. Its like this in the back too for another 7 under the riser in-between the bottom of riser and carpet&pad. So 14 total here. Then on top, I've got Isos between the Plywood platform and seat feet. There is a lot of seat feet, so I've got 10 of them on the front. In the back (or towards the back, the MAs support most of the seats, so only use 4 more Isos on the back seat feet under the armrests (like in the 2nd pic above):
And then a head on from the front for another view: