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Long time lurker for over 6 years now and I finally get to create a thread to document my theater and bar build. We built our house 5 years ago and are finally getting to finish off our basement. When we designed this house I had a plan which included an area for the theater, an area for the bar and my workshop, all of which I think of as my "essentials" for a basement. Thanks to support beams and the electric panel having to go in where the screen is supposed to be, I am a little limited on some set-up options, especially limited by a throw distance to the screen of only around 12 - 13 feet.

We are naming the theater the Three Dane Theater as a reflection of past, present and future. The past is for our first Dane "Boozer" we lost back in May, the present is for our 2 y/o Dane "Zoey", and the future is for our 6 month old (95 lb) monster puppy "Ovi". I figured like naming boats it's good luck to name the theater and give it something with meaning right? :) The bar will have a huge Thin Blue Line American Flag wall dubbing it the Blue Line Bar.

Enough of my personal babbling, the details of the build: The theater will be 12'5" x 20'7" with 8.5' ceilings. The bar will be behind the theater with a large pass-through opening so that the screen can be seen from the bar. I know this probably is a horrible idea for the sake of sound quality, but we like to entertain a lot and we wanted the theater to flow with the bar while the bar flows with the rest of the open concept entertaining area in the basement. It's just me and my wife, no kids so I am not worrying about sound proofing the theater or basement, but I do want good acoustics in the theater (don't we all). I have been reading a lot and watching as many videos as I can on acoustics and trying to learn from all the amazing acousticians out there. I've also posted on another thread and got some tips from Jeff regarding the pass-though opening and ideas to help with reflection points.

I know I probably put the cart before the horse, but I already have my seats thanks to a great deal from fellow member @AnnapolisSony and a couple more add-ons from Roman. So the seating will be two rows of 3 Fusion Jive's in the espresso leather.
I am putting in a 120" 16.9 screen. The room will be mostly hockey and Netflix shows with some football, a little gaming and a movie here and there. The screen will be an AT screen with about 30" behind it for the speakers and sub. I just have to make it so that I can easily access the breaker panels that are behind it. Already looking at using gas struts to make it easy to raise up out of the way if that will work.

I want to do 7.1.4, I am still trying to read up and understand Atmos a little better so I can figure out how to best place the in-ceiling speakers. Unfortunately due to duct work running through the back of the theater I have a short ceiling in the back and tall ceilings in the front. Not sure if Atmos can be at different heights.

I have included my designs for the space (first time attempting sketchup), along with a few pictures of the basement. We actually started this past weekend with the framing. My brother and I will be doing everything but the sheet rock. I promised the wife we would be done by March, I just didn't say which year...

Equipment:
Denon 4400
HSU VTF-3 MK5
Front 3: HTM 10's (not ordered yet)
Surrounds: Volt 8
Ceiling: (4) Monoprice Amber in-ceiling 8"
Projector: TBD
Seats: 6 Fusion Jive

I am looking forward to all the amazing feedback from everyone out there. I am good at building stuff but an absolute newb when it comes to the science part of the home theater. Hopefully the vast wealth of knowledge will help me out and guide me in the right direction in those areas I am still quite clueless in....

Lastly, thank you to all the members out there that have given me so much inspiration and some great ideas to incorporate into my build.
 

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Congrats on getting to this stage @beerhound34 - HOW EXCITING. I am going to be following along for the entire ride - that is for sure! I am a ways behind you...still playing around with dimensions and the layout of the rest of my basement at this time. I think I mentioned this to you before but my ceiling joists are much lower than what you are dealing with so I am a bit limited in some areas. I need to move some lally columns as well so I need to bring in a structural engineer to figure out what my options are! :eek:

Have fun man...

And BTW, love the name of the theater room...very original...
 
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Haven't had much free time the past couple of weeks, but I did get to work on my rack a little this weekend. I got a Tel Com rack off of Craigslist for a couple bucks but it isn't a 19" rack, more like a 25" rack. After some 12u rails, some MDF and additional rack shelves, I now have a huge rack cabinet with plenty of room to add more toys!!
 

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Good job on starting with a layout and drawings. Very helpful getting everything down on paper.. much easier to change on paper than in construction.
I like the overall concept. :)


Yeah... telecom racks are consider 23" racks vs the 19" racks that typical server/normal ... I like the extra space in the rack.. definitely would make it allot easier for hookup.

12-13' is going to be interesting for throw distance. It will definitely shrink the screen. Double check at Projector Central and the throw distance calculator they provide. It will come in handy for you to make sure you can make it all come together on a 120" 16.9 screen

One thing I noticed, and took the liberty to illustrate a little bit.. Double check your angles for speaker placement based on MLP location. You may need to re-think the column locations or spacing to make it fall more inline with Dolby guidelines.

Good luck on the build.. Looking forward to the end product.
 

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I've been neglecting my build thread the past few weeks, shame on me.... I got moved to Midnight Shift a few weeks ago which has had a bit of an impact on my "free time" in which I can run power tools and equipment in the basement. None the less progress is still being made and I will try to get some photos up this weekend as I am almost done with all the plumbing and electrical for the theater, bar and the rest of the basement.
@sirjaymz, I am so glad you posted the above post, that is awesome info and was the exact reason I was coming on here. Me and angles don't get along too well, they have always outsmarted me.... I am running speaker wires on Friday and am trying to pin point where exactly I should put my speakers. I have made a few changes from the first layout I had created. Unfortunately the column beside the front row really can't move as it's needed to hide plumbing (the blue circle). I did shorten the riser a little to move the front row back a few inches. So now my side surrounds are just slightly behind the potential head area for those in the front row.

I've read so many posts over the past two weeks and the opinions are all over the place as far as having side surround speakers slightly in front of the front row or slightly behind the front row (especially if you have two rows). Frankly I feel more confused now than when I started. I would love some feedback, especially from those that have two rows as to what works better or is it just a personal preference. Below is the new Sketchup, purple are my speakers, the orange are the lights going in. The Atmos speakers will be in the soffit so they will be a bit closer to the ears than what is probably ideal. I know my seat won't be exactly centered in the theater but it should be close.
 

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I've been neglecting my build thread the past few weeks, shame on me.... I got moved to Midnight Shift a few weeks ago which has had a bit of an impact on my "free time" in which I can run power tools and equipment in the basement. None the less progress is still being made and I will try to get some photos up this weekend as I am almost done with all the plumbing and electrical for the theater, bar and the rest of the basement.

@sirjaymz , I am so glad you posted the above post, that is awesome info and was the exact reason I was coming on here. Me and angles don't get along too well, they have always outsmarted me.... I am running speaker wires on Friday and am trying to pin point where exactly I should put my speakers. I have made a few changes from the first layout I had created. Unfortunately the column beside the front row really can't move as it's needed to hide plumbing (the blue circle). I did shorten the riser a little to move the front row back a few inches. So now my side surrounds are just slightly behind the potential head area for those in the front row.

I've read so many posts over the past two weeks and the opinions are all over the place as far as having side surround speakers slightly in front of the front row or slightly behind the front row (especially if you have two rows). Frankly I feel more confused now than when I started. I would love some feedback, especially from those that have two rows as to what works better or is it just a personal preference. Below is the new Sketchup, purple are my speakers, the orange are the lights going in. The Atmos speakers will be in the soffit so they will be a bit closer to the ears than what is probably ideal. I know my seat won't be exactly centered in the theater but it should be close.

I'll be doing a similar setup in the near future so I'm curious to what you go with for the speaker placement and your personal feedback. My thoughts were to put the surround speakers just behind the first row so the second row does get some effect while the MLP will still get the better effect.


As for the Atmos placement, I am curious to your feedback on these as well. Going back to the MLP, there will primarily be 2-4 people watching movies at any given time with the second row only being used one certain occasions. So ideally I would like to place the 4 Atmos speakers with that in mind and similar to the Dolby recommended placement for the MLP. That is 2 in front and 2 behind the MLP. However, if you feel that there are good results from your proposed locations I may change my thought process on this. For example, how well do you hear the movement from rear to front in the front row with your proposed design?



Nevertheless, I'll be following closely and see what you end up coming up with! I'll be living vicariously through your build.
 
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Man I wish I lived closer to you. I'd love to be able to see it progress as it unfolds. I could learn so much - especially as I am in planning mode at this juncture.

If I decide to go with a dedicated HT in my space, dimensions are looking like 15.5' W X 25.3' L. My real issue is that I'm working with joists that are only 7'7" above slab so my finished ceiling will much lower than I'd like (which likely will take a riser for back row seating out of play). I'll also have to box out a beam and some ductwork and those areas will be even lower (< 7').

I am generating a list of questions and things to research on my end before I commit to doing a dedicated HT. Stage, distance behind AT screen, what speakers to use, gear budget, typical soffit dimensions, etc. Zillion things on that list so still in very preliminary stages over here.:confused:
 
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My support beams and some of the plumbing put the soffits at around that 7' 7" mark. The rest of the basement is close to 9' in height. That 7'7" isn't that bad of a height until you start trying to factor in a riser. My buddy from my hockey team who is 6'8" might have a little trouble in the back row...

Anytime you find yourself down near Charlottesville give me a holler, there is always cold beer here! My sheet rock guy is coming by in the morning to look at the project, once the sheet rock is in this project should start flying. I am hoping to be done before the NHL playoffs start, I need to watch the Caps go back to back on the big screen!
 
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Update with pictures:

It still isn't in to the fun stuff yet, but I have the sheet rock people coming in 11 days, it will start to take shape after that. Past couple of weekends were spent finishing up all the soffit work around the basement, plumbing and running a whole lot of wiring.... I'm hoping to have roxul put in this weekend. Here's how it's looking so far.


lot's of speaker wire and CAT6 piled up...


The future home of the projector!


Looking back towards the bar and theater entry
 
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I'm using the Monoprice Amber 8" in ceiling speakers for my Atmos . After opening them up they seemed a little too heavy to me to just cut a hole in the sheet rock and hope the sheet rock holds them (These are nice beefy speakers). I decided to use 1/2" MDF to make face plates for them but now I am wondering if I should go ahead and just box them in? All of my in-ceiling speakers through out my house are not boxed in and they sound great. I guess I have a week to contemplate this. On a side note, all of you out there that are knocking out great perfect circle cuts with a skill saw, you are my new heroes. That task is not an easy one, guess I need to look into getting a jig for my router if I have to cut anymore.
 
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I took the amber for a test drive for ATMOS as well. I didn't like them at all. Despite their cheap price and the cost to return I had to send them back. Hopefully you have better luck
 
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Yesterday was a fun day of Roxul installation. I installed about 15 bags hitting every wall and ceiling joist space in the theater as well as above the bar ceiling. I know there are hundreds of posts about how great of a product this is, but wow, experiencing it for yourself is something else. Even with the big opening in the back of my theater the room still sounds dead. My brother who is the construction guru and helping me with this project stopped by to check the room out and was amazing at how dampened everything was.
Since I am not doing double drywall I figured roxul would be pretty important. I am now wondering if i still need to do something for the soffits even though the ceiling above it and the walls to the side are stuffed with roxul. I am installing 4" non-IC eyeball lights that Jeff had recommended in several posts so I am hesitant on packing pink stuff near where those will be installed at.



 
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The sheet rock has begun! This is the only part of the project that my brother and I are not doing. And frankly why would I when my brother's wife got me a major hook up with one of her contractors that is doing the work for about the same as what it would cost me just to buy the materials from one of the big box stores! AND he is giving me a pool table out of one of his houses he is getting ready to renovate, even having his guys deliver it whenever I am ready for it.

The only part that sucks about contractor work is having to work midnight shift and trying to sleep through the day with them hanging sheetrock right under you... Oh well, the sacrifices we make for our theater, I think its a fair enough trade off though!

Here's day 1 progress for sheetrock:

Looking towards the screen wall


Looking towards the back of the theater


Looking from the bar into the theater front wall through the pass-through


From the bar back into the main basement gaming area
 
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Great question Mumbles and to be honest with you that's gonna be something I am going to have to work on once I start building the screen wall. The black panels that are at an angle are going to be hinged panels. With where my service panels are and where my rack is, I want those corners to be acoustic transparent fabric on some type of frame that I can open up and then raise the screen with hydraulic struts to access the back corners. My goal is to try and build a framing system that borders around the speakers but yet strong enough to keep the fabric secure without having any framing sitting in front of where the speakers are. Worse case scenario I might have to move my speakers to be closer to the center and behind the screen.
 
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Sheet rock guys finished sanding yesterday. I spent today doing an extra cleaning, took a fox tail and shop vac to all the walls and ceilings. I then did what many on here recommended and took a wet mop to the floor to get up most of the dust. It worked great, I guess I should have done a before and after pic to show the difference. My Drill Instructor from back in the day would have been pleased with my mop job!

I will start priming all the walls tomorrow, as for now I guess I need to get of the fence and make up my mind on how I want the theater painted. I know I want the walls Washington Capitals red, but the trim and columns is where I am stuck on. I can't decide if I want to stain everything a dark Java color to match the cabinets I am building for the bar, or should I paint everything black like a few others on here have done. My last idea is to paint the columns and trim Capitals dark blue. I haven't seen any out there like that so I am a little nervous as to how that might look.

I have a long night of staying up late to get myself back on the midnight shift sleep schedule, I guess I will do some image searching to try and make up my mind.

Here's the theater so far:



 
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I have multiple tall windows across the outside wall of my room that I am covering with panels. I’m dry fitting them here. Colors seem a bit off in the photo, but I love em in real life. The background wall paint is SW asphalt grey with VGK colors in the panels. I’ll stuff some rockwool behind them when I attach them. Just wanted to test these and make sure the colors and dimensions were okay. I’ll add one more grey panel at the top to go to the ceiling. These same panels will cover my surround in wall speakers and have some OC panels behind them on the inside wall. Doubt the colors are to your liking LOL, but may give you a little bit of an idea





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That looks awesome! I've been messing around with the red with blue columns on Sketchup and it looks good on the mock-ups. Now seeing how you are doing your sides, I might need to give the blue columns and trim some serious consideration.

You all got a great franchise there in Vegas, it's fun to watch their style. We hatted to loose Nate Schmitt, you got a great guy and good D-man in him.
 
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Don’t have to look any further than our pre and post suspension record to see how much Schmidt means to us. Even more important than Schmidt was McPhee and how he masterminded the new expansion draft rules. Last year was something special, but left no doubt that you guys were juggernauts destined to bring the cup home. Must have been a great ride for you and to see Ovi hoist that cup up, you guys deserved it!

I would definitely go for the Capitals colored panels. I ordered multiple GOM samples, then got a single yard of each color to test wrap these panels before I ordered the rest. I ended up ditching the yellow GOM for a gold fabric from Joann’s. The rest of the GOM was supposed to show up on Friday, but got delayed. Lots of work ahead, but can’t wait.


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#26 ·
The bad part about working Midnight Shift is when it's really slow, I spend money on stuff for this theater. The good part about Midnights, I get to shop for this theater lol!
I put my order in with Erich at diysoundgroup last night. I can not give enough credit to how awesome they are. I was back and forth on HTM 10 or 12's and was going to go with Volt 8's. After several emails and lots of questions, Erich determined that with my theater size and the sub support I have, 12's would be too much and that Volt 6's would compliment just as well for surrounds. You figure most companies would want you to buy the most expensive products they have, not Erich, he wants you to buy the product best for your application. If you are looking to buy speakers, I HIGHLY recommend them.

As for theater design, the WAF has made it clear that she wants the theater trimmed out to match the cabinets in the bar. I am going with the JAVA Gel Stain from General Finishes for the bar so now I have to either spend the money to get nice wood and trim to stain in the theater, or see if I can find a paint color that matches the JAVA and keep to using MDF and primed trim. My best friend growing up is a painter and said he would bring his paint wheel over and try and get a match for a good BM paint that is the JAVA color. I tried to tell the wife that the Vegas Knights fans are doing awesome VK colored columns and that I couldn't let them out do us. She didn't care..... lol!
 
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I tried to tell the wife that the Vegas Knights fans are doing awesome VK colored columns and that I couldn't let them out do us. She didn't care..... lol!

LOL, I can see the look on her face, I get it from my wife all the time! We have to compensate off the ice in our theaters to keep up with what your club does on the ice! I’ll bet the trim will look awesome, definitely won’t let my wife see pics though, she’s content with the columns as is.



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Last week's little bit of spare time was spent doing all the priming in the basement. Nothing really exciting about that worth posting. Although I will say, I used the BM Fresh Start primer and had a gallon tinted red for the theater. That stuff goes on nice and thick for a primer. I don't think I will need too many coats which is rare for red.
Today I was able to get my riser finished up. It's so much more fun doing something that actually starts to give the theater more of it's shape. The riser is only about 9" tall. It's filled with lots of pink fluffy topped with a double layer of Advantec with roofing felt in between and A LOT of liquid nails. The edges of the Advantec (top and bottom) were rounded over. I attached 3/4 maple for the kick plates. The goal for the riser is to have the top of the riser and the top of the step carpeted and stain the kick plate to match the stained columns and trim I am doing.

Tomorrow is probably back to painting and then I need to start making some cabinets for the bar along with building my columns. My DIY Sound Group speakers come in Friday so that might become a distraction...... :)

Two layers of un-faced attic insulation stuffed in the cavities before the Advantec goes down.


The riser (8'x7')


Single gang for electrical, the double gang with be low voltage with an HDMI, RCA, Coax and 2 Cat6 located right behind my seat.


Nice wide 13" step leading up to the riser. I didn't want to do a step but was worried 9" might be too tall. Kinda glad I did the step, I think it makes it look better.
 
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Thanks bro! I am itching to get this thing done and put those seats to use!!! The riser to screen wall distance is a little over 11'. From all the reading I've been doing, for a 120" screen, most people seemed to enjoy sitting about 10' -10 1/2' away from that size screen. If it's too close, I will just tell the wife we have to buy a new house with a bigger basement for a bigger theater so we can sit farther from the screen lol!
 
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I feel like all i have been doing for the past two months is painting.... Doing a full basement finish and not just a theater has definitely been more time consuming than what I thought. My original goal of being able to watch playoff hockey in the theater probably won't happen this season.

Anyways, I thought I would share the ceiling of the theater. I went with navy blue and red to keep with my overall Capitals basement theme. I really like how it turned out. When I cut off the front shop lights the navy blue part of the ceiling disappears nicely. I am hoping with in the next couple of weeks I can get all my cabinets for the bar built along with the columns for the theater. I have a bunch of hard maple, and birch calling my name to be worked with. Tired of painting, ready to build stuff again!!!

Here's a couple shots of the ceiling, the colors are BM Midnight Blue and BM Million Dollar Red.


 
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I feel like all i have been doing for the past two months is painting.... Doing a full basement finish and not just a theater has definitely been more time consuming than what I thought. My original goal of being able to watch playoff hockey in the theater probably won't happen this season.

Anyways, I thought I would share the ceiling of the theater. I went with navy blue and red to keep with my overall Capitals basement theme. I really like how it turned out. When I cut off the front shop lights the navy blue part of the ceiling disappears nicely. I am hoping with in the next couple of weeks I can get all my cabinets for the bar built along with the columns for the theater. I have a bunch of hard maple, and birch calling my name to be worked with. Tired of painting, ready to build stuff again!!!
I have to admit, I shuttered when I heard you were doing your walls in RED, but man does it look good!!! (even pre-trim). I particularly like the dark Navy ceiling...looks very cool...especially alongside of the red. I had been wondering when you were going to update...the suspense has been killing me. Are you going with white trim to fill out the red, navy and white Capitals color theme???

On another note, how about PIT and TB falling out so early??? I would have never predicted either of those sweeps. If we can get by Carolina, it's gonna be a tough series against the Islanders. How about Ovi dropping Svechnikov so quickly the other night??? Tomorrow night's game is going to be a doozy...especially with the online threat/taunt that Svechnikov's brother decided to make on IG. We may just see a hatty out of #8 tomorrow night. #lessonlearned #dontpoketherussian
 
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I am not sure why the pics aren't showing. I went to the site as a guest from a work computer and it showed up. I will try to get some more pics uploaded here soon. And BTW I love your avatar. I am doing a huge shiplap 6' x 16' subdued flag on my bar wall and running LED's in the stripe that I can light up the thin blue line with (hence the bar name). I got some of the dream color LED strips that have some pretty good blue as well as red and blue strobe effects.

I am sure once I get done with the basement my honey-do list is going to include a lot of painting upstairs.... The wife keeps commenting on how well my painting looks in the basement and how the Ben Moore paint would look so much better upstairs. I think she's dropping a clue for me... lol!
 
#36 ·
Theater content: nothing wrong with red walls. Mine will be DMD burgundy... :D

I don't understand what beef Svech's brother or anybody else has with that situation. They exchanged greetings and stick work behind the play, Svech asked Ovi if he wanted to go, and it was on. If you ask you just might receive. He got fed and Ovi did not continue throwing after it was decided. Even appeared Ovi tried, with limited success, to keep him from hitting the ice too hard when he was going down.

His brother has no place in it at all, and anything the Carolina coaching staff is saying is just to use it as motivation for next game/rest of series. Nothing wrong with them using it that way - but as a neutral observer, hockey player*, and official, I don't see anything wrong with how either player handled themselves in the fight.

*goalie, with all the loose screws that entails

As for Freddy Krueger memes. Is this even the NHL? Take a number and do something about it on the ice if you've got a problem....

I wouldn't have expected any first round sweeps these playoffs.... Tampa getting handled after the season they had was a complete surprise. Those guys must feel like they can do anything now after accomplishing that in such convincing fashion.
 
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Yeah Ovi just had that one punch that landed perfectly on Svechnikov's chin. You catch that button just right and it's lights out for most everyone. The officiating has to tighten up a bit in this series, there have been some really bad calls and they were letting things get out of hand a little there towards the end of Monday night's game. If they let this go completely rouge Wilson will end up killing someone and grab him another suspension lol. Columbus and NY Islanders are going to be a tough one to play against in round 2 for who ever moves on.

And btw, I have been following your theater build for a while now. The access stairs in the soffit was absolutely brilliant!
 
#43 ·
Finally got to put away the paint brushes (for now) and back to getting to build stuff again! Been working on building the cabinets for the bar area. Hopefully I can finish the building of these in the next couple of days and then I can move on to the columns for the theater. Using birch for the cabinets, the trim and columns in the theater will be Maple. Still trying to figure out exactly how I am going to trim out the theater. I want to incorporate the LED's into the baseboard like the Salt Mine theater, but I still can't decide how I am going to trim out the rest and the columns to have everything tie in.

I keep going back to the "show me" section to get inspiration and that just makes it more difficult. There are some incredible builds on here, I know I can't hold a candle to most of these builds, but I do want to be somewhat close to worthy lol!

Here's the building of the cabinet cores. The face framing, doors and drawers will be coming soon.


Lot's of birch and hard maple wood and plywood to have some fun with!


One of the base builds


5 of my 6 base cabinets.
 
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LET THERE BE LIGHT!!!!

Took advantage of having my dad over for Easter (retired electrician and electrical engineer) and got a few of the Lutron Caseta switches wired up. The theater and bar area look so much better now that they have light. I set aside a budget to have all of the basement as well as several switches in the rest of the house wired up with the Lutron Caseta. While it wasn't cheap, I needed a better system than the X10 so I could better integrate everything over to the Harmony hub and Alexa. My wife thinks I'm crazy with all the automation I do. This past Christmas was fun though with all the smart switches I got and some of the IFTTT scenes I programed.

Here's a few pics of the lighting. There is definitely plenty of light in the theater with all the lights on. In total there are two 6" can with LED's and 10 of the 4" eyeballs with LED bulbs that I can have wash the the walls and screen wall. Three switches in the theater, one for most of the lights, one separate for just the screen lights and a smart switch for the outlet in the ceiling for the LED's.

The bar has a switch for two in ceiling 6" cans (LED's), a switch for pendant lights that will hang above the bar, and an on/off smart switch for a bunch of receptacles that are on the upper walls around the bar for all of my neon signs and bar signs.

Caseta dark brown switches in theater:


Theater with all lights on:



Screen lights:


Bar switches and lights (and a lot of receptacles to still wire up....)

 
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Alright, I guess it’s my turn to bust your chops a little bit for the span of time since your last post. :D

Over the past couple of weeks I have sketched out a million and one diff layout scenarios for my room and I am finally beginning to make sense of my basement and which side will work best for the HT room. I am getting there slowly but surely but I just want to be sure that I make the right decision given what I am up against with already finished walls, low ceiling joists (91") and the god-awful drop ceiling (that is coming down shortly).

I am here because I have a question for you about the columns that you intend to build for your side surrounds. What sort of dimensions are you planning to go with and what are you planning to fill them with? I have not done any research in that area but I intend to make my columns as shallow as possible because I do not have a ton of room to give up width-wise in my room. I am considering in-wall Triads (4SAT) for my surrounds and rear surrounds so I would likely be building a total of 4 columns (one on each side and two on rear wall) to accommodate these 17"H x 11"W speakers.

Hope all is well and looking forward to seeing how much you've tackled in May.
 
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