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Great info thanks for sharing James!

Yes floor standing on wheels. Here are some pics of the rack and the alcove. I have an 8" AC Infinity fan above this alcove with a 8/6/4 wye that pulls 4" from the back/ top of the alcove (opening shown) and 6" from the rear of the theater and dumps it into the hallway. Do you thank I also need something in the rack?

The UPS is not rack mounted but I have not purchased one yet either.



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Hard to tell in the pic if the top of the rack is vented or solid. If solid then yes you'll probably need some type of fan panel to draw the AVR heat out to the rear, and a ventilation gap above the AVR.

The behringer should be the only other thing generating any real heat, and it has active cooling built in - so nothing to worry about. I guess some cable boxes and DVRs run hot - just have to give space around those items for heat to radiate into surrounding air.

Will the front of the rack be open to your theater room for fresh air, or are you putting a closet door on the alcove? Return placement looks ideal, just wondering about cool supply air for the equipment.

Are you planning to power everything via the UPS, or just certain items? I run all my A/V through a double-conversion UPS and can't say I have any power issues. Mine are Liebert GXT3 (older model) - APC SRT series is a good place to start if you're shopping.
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Hard to tell in the pic if the top of the rack is vented or solid. If solid then yes you'll probably need some type of fan panel to draw the AVR heat out to the rear, and a ventilation gap above the AVR.

The behringer should be the only other thing generating any real heat, and it has active cooling built in - so nothing to worry about. I guess some cable boxes and DVRs run hot - just have to give space around those items for heat to radiate into surrounding air.

Will the front of the rack be open to your theater room for fresh air, or are you putting a closet door on the alcove? Return placement looks ideal, just wondering about cool supply air for the equipment.

Are you planning to power everything via the UPS, or just certain items? I run all my A/V through a double-conversion UPS and can't say I have any power issues. Mine are Liebert GXT3 (older model) - APC SRT series is a good place to start if you're shopping.
There is a vent in the top of the rack made to cut out and add a fan(s) if desired. The alcove will be open to the theater but the rack does have a door. There will be a couple inches on the sides 5" in the back and about 3" on top. We rarely have power issues here so I was only planning on running the JVC projector through it for proper shut down should the power go out. Again thanks for the help on this!
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If the rack ends up actively vented, you need to make sure the top 6-8U of the rack is closed off, so air is encouraged to flow upwards. Openings near the very top will short circuit
pulling cooler air from down below. You will also want look at your gear and see how each piece is cooled. Some components expect to draw air from beneath while some draw air
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You might consider mounting that UPS much lower, for the weight James addressed and have a few blank spaces for future proofing without having to pull gear and reposition it.
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Very inspiring build thread, thank you for sharing! In the beginning stages of my planning a project and this is super helpful!
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If the rack ends up actively vented, you need to make sure the top 6-8U of the rack is closed off, so air is encouraged to flow upwards. Openings near the very top will short circuit
pulling cooler air from down below. You will also want look at your gear and see how each piece is cooled. Some components expect to draw air from beneath while some draw air
from the front.

You might consider mounting that UPS much lower, for the weight James addressed and have a few blank spaces for future proofing without having to pull gear and reposition it.
Thanks Tedd! Good info on the venting/air exchange I wasn't aware of. I have started to move things based on your and James input.

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Update:

Got the drywall up on the inner soffit, just waiting for a 3 3/4" hole saw to get here so I can drill holes for the can lights and finish the wiring. Once that's done I can stuff the soffits with insulation and finish the drywall hopefully this weekend.




I also installed the ISOS under the riser and wired for a BOSS, step lights, and electrical outlets.




I installed flex conduit from the soffit tray to the front columns to run my LED light strip wiring through




...and finally for this update I trimmed the door up. First I cut to about 1/16" with a track saw then I used a flush trim router bit to clean it up. I will need to seal the MDF edges and fill them with something. Still deciding on what but James and others have provided lots of options. Finally I will need to make a hinge jig and finalize the jam so I can route the hinges in.





That's it for now more to come.
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Today's update will be pretty quick. First I spent about 90 minutes going over build questions I had with Jeff @BIGmouthinDC . I cannot tell you how valuable his input has been to this build, thanks Jeff! Didn't have much time tonight to work but was able run and get some supplies as well as figure out a wiring gremlin on a switched outlet on the rec room side of the build

In the theater I tidied up the riser wiring and installed insulation in the riser. The decking goes on tomorrow as well as some drywall on the soffits. Well that is if my Ebay 3 3/4" hole saw with guaranteed Thursday 8/15 delivery gets here tomorrow




Btw I love me some tools but the $9 Walmart electric knife has been awesome for cutting all the insulation in the basement.
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Riser complete! I forgot the roofing felt when I put down the first piece of the second layer but removed that piece and added the felt. Also the only reason I used tongue and grove was becuase the other plywood at Home Depot looked so crappy. It worked out fine but cost an extra $70





I received my hole saw so I should be able to finish the last of the rough in electrical and insulation tomorrow.
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Hole saw finally arrived so I drilled a few holes




Hung the vacuum it helped some not great but better than nothing



Then I started wiring the can lights but ran out of knock out fittings...so I started installing insulation and hanging some sheet rock



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Your flying through this PK. We'll have to start calling you "FLASH GORDON" ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_Gordon

PS....There's another one for you to make Griffin, on your 3D-Printer lol.
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PS....There's another one for you to make Griffin, on your 3D-Printer lol.
Lol Thanks! Not sure about that i'm only 7 months past my original estimate for completion of the basement (including the theater) but I can definitely see the end now.

Things are starting to fall off the list which is nice and I'm also getting to the point where I know how most of the remaining tasks will be completed so less and less research is required. Its amazing how much research a project like this takes and while I know I have just scratched the home theater subject I have learned a ton over the last year!
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HUGE shout out to Insteon tech Support!!

I have been fighting what I thought was a wiring gremlin for a couple months now, not constantly but every so often I would try something new and always ended up going back to non Insteon switches. Well today I decided I had had it and I was going to get to the bottom of it so I tried a couple more things and then gave up and called Insteon tech support. A gentleman named Frank answered on the 3rd ring and solved my programming issue in about a 3 min call.

Sure wish I would have called them sooner LOL
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Hindsight is a bitch, huh?
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Hindsight is a bitch, huh?
Yeah it was an interesting one where old wiring got tied into new on a 2 gang box both wired for 3 way switches. Ultimately I did a lot more thinking about it then physical changes but still stoked to have that behind me.
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This is starting to get real...just got shipping info on my theater style seats for the back row they will be here next week. Now I need to get my wife to Chicago and decide which @HTmarket chairs we will be getting for the front row
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This is starting to get real...just got shipping info on my theater style seats for the back row they will be here next week. Now I need to get my wife to Chicago and decide which @HTmarket chairs we will be getting for the front row
That's awesome.. I just got my shipping info too! But I might have not told my wife I bought them yet lol..

what kind of flowers say.. I bought $4200 seats and didn't tell you..
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That's awesome.. I just got my shipping info too! But I might have not told my wife I bought them yet lol..

what kind of flowers say.. I bought $4200 seats and didn't tell you..
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Big day...well at least I thought so LOL

Rough in wiring - Complete!
Insulation - Complete!
Dry wall - Complete!






Time to get the taper back out here
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Great job!! Looking really nice!
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Lucked out taper just finished a job up yesterday he is on his way over to start the soffit

I sent him a couple pics his response "Wow! you make things interesting" LOL
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Theater, screen, or both?

If its the screen the soffits will be done this week then I will paint the ceiling and the soffits. Once that's complete I can finish the electrical and bring the projector in and start playing around with screen sizes by projecting an image on to the wall. I will do this prior to cutting the access for the in wall LCR's.

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Taper is making quick work of it





Also got our back row theater rockers, took 8 weeks but they are really nice and at $1,541 for a row a four pretty economical and will work out great with our space constraints. Now I need to get down to Chicago so my wife can pick the front row recliners out at HTmarket.







In other basement news the special order exercise room door came in so I got it installed as well.



Next up finish the wiring, pick up, paint , and install the trim in the rec room. Then stage and columns in the theater
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Taper got the knockdown texture done today a quick finish sand in the morning and he'll be finished.



I will get the soffit painted black and the ceiling painted dark blue over the next week so that its ready for Jeff @NightSkyMurals to come paint the star ceiling sometime in the next couple months.
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Looks awesome! I think you'll be glad that you went with the knockdown.

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