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Multi-room in-ceiling positioning

Hello everyone,

hopefully I'll get a better luck in this section (in speakers I've got no anwers) even though this is not a home-theater design rather a multi-room system.

I'm planning a multi-room system for a new conto apartment (Euro size apartment), ceiling height is 9,2 ft. As you can see in the picture attached I have:
- n. 1 studio (130 sq. ft.)
- n. 2 bathrooms (75 to 80 sq. ft.)
- n. 2 bedrooms (135 to 160 sq. ft.)

Main listening will be background basically in every room, maybe with the exception of the studio, where a more "serious" listening would be nice to achieve (not mandatory though). Please note that I have a large living room where I have the best critical and serious listening experience with floor-stand speakers. I've planned to use a stereo speaker for each bathroom, while in the other rooms a couple of speakers. Sources will be mainly music streaming services (e.g. Spotify and radio).

Q1. Do you see any major issue to where I position those speakers? Basically I position them at the center of each room, with the goal to have the whole room covered.
I've read different in-ceiling speaker manuals (e.g. B&W, Russound, NuVo, Kef, etc) and they seems to have different point of views on where to put in-ceiling speakers, that's why I would like to have your opinion on this topic.

Q2. For the studio, do you think tilt-able/pivotable tweeter might help to achieve a more "serious" listening and enhance imaging and staging?

Q3. Do you think 6,5 inch speakers might be enough for a background volume level listening or I might have way better results with 8 inch speakers? Of course I will have more bass, but I would rather spend more on better 6,5 inch speakers that go down a little more.

Any help is very appreciated. Thank you so much.
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looks fine to me. Will you have a neighbor living overhead? If so are they music lovers?
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looks fine to me. Will you have a neighbor living overhead? If so are they music lovers?
Thank you so much for your reply. Yes I will have neighbours living overhead... but I'm not sure they will love listening "my" music

Would you suggest tilting/pivoting tweeter for the studio room? 6,5 or 8 inches?
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I don't know if they ship to your location but Home Theater Direct makes some great sounding in wall and in ceiling speakers. I have them throughout my house and there's plenty of bass in the 6.5 models for background music. I have 8 inch models for LCR in my living room and I'm very impressed with the bass they produce.

They have aim-able tweeters.
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It you have neighbors overhead you should get ceiling speakers with integrated back surrounds to contain the sound directed upwards. It's the responsible thing to do.
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I’ll check, thank you for the advice.
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What do you mean for integrated back surround? I saw some “boxes” that can be installed over the speaker so that it appears more like a traditional speaker with a box behind it, I guess for isolation.
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Like the Triads, basically a sealed speaker you shove up in the ceiling. Other brands sell backer boxes for their speakers. Dynamat sells a thick rubber backer box than you can shove up the hole for retrofit.



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I see, thank you. So you would advice a sealed speaker or to place a box behind to avoid sound to pass to the apartment above?
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It will help a lot but you won’t be able to kill 100%. A much smaller amount of music will make it through the ceiling/floor structure. Maybe you will be lucky and the basic construction methods will be robust enough to make it a non issue.

Have you determined that you can actually cut holes and run wires in the ceiling? Some construction methods (concrete) or Multi-family residential construction fire spread codes would prevent it.

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Have you determined that you can actually cut holes and run wires in the ceiling? Some construction methods (concrete) or Multi-family residential construction fire spread codes would prevent it.
Yes, the construction company will run wires where I tell them to. From why I know about the ceiling construction, from bottom to top I will have drywall, W shaped steel sheet, concrete floor with insulation, floor (wood I guess).
To me it seems quite a performance ceiling, but again, I’m not a technician.
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I've got this picture from the construction company, what do you think?

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I think I have no experience with that ceiling design.
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I think I have no experience with that ceiling design.
No worries, thank you for your help.
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