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That's a good question, we don't have a closing date yet. Just today they finished hanging all the drywall for the whole house, minus my theater room. I still need to choose cabinets, countertops, bathroom accessories(mirrors, shower glass doors), closet shelving. Once we get a delivery date for the countertops, they said they can give us a closing date. I'm hoping for sometime in January, but I don't know how fast this builder can get all these last bits done.
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That's a good question, we don't have a closing date yet. Just today they finished hanging all the drywall for the whole house, minus my theater room. I still need to choose cabinets, countertops, bathroom accessories(mirrors, shower glass doors), closet shelving. Once we get a delivery date for the countertops, they said they can give us a closing date. I'm hoping for sometime in January, but I don't know how fast this builder can get all these last bits done.
When we found our current house back in 2007 it was already being built and all those things you listed were already set in stone. We were able to change the paint color, chose our lights and upgraded to a gas range and oven.

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We are now in contract for our current home that we're selling. Closing date is Jan 31 but the new house will definitely NOT be ready as the builder informed me. So temp housing it is. I feel fairly confident saying that by the end of February should be when the new house is ready. Waiting is the hardest part. I have all this motivation and energy to start building the room. At least Nyal has given me some small tasks to do for the design process in the meantime. I'll share progress of the design as it happens in the next couple months.
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Super early, preliminary room layout. I like the addition of the entryway and how it gives more wall space for design elements and movie decor. @audioguy this is a bit similar to the idea you and I discussed, just expanded upon.

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2nd layout idea, only 1 step in the entryway so you enter at 7.5" height instead of 15". Smaller riser for the 2nd row.

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Room layouts with measurements! The screen as is in the diagram is 2.4:1 120" wide. I need to do a threshold test at home with my family later tonight to determine if we can go larger based on the viewing distance of 137".



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I like using 2.25/viewing distance to get screen height. So 137/2.25=60.88". A 158" 2.4:1 screen would be 145.85x60.77 and a 124" 16:9 would be 108.8x60.77. The 16:9 should be around a 45 degree angle and the 2.40:1 between 50 and 60 degrees, which should be fine for 4K. I am looking at about going with this size or a really large 16:9, one row of seats with a back bar and stools since there is just 3 in my family.

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Just did a quick test with the wife and kids. At 50+ degrees my wife and I actually felt sick lol. I think we'll go with the 47deg as the original drawing laid out.
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Only one comment: Consider having either 3 or 5 seats in the first row so one chair is in the "sweet spot" !!

One more question: Have I depicted correctly the flow to enter your theater and take a seat?

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Only one comment: Consider having either 3 or 5 seats in the first row so one chair is in the "sweet spot" !!
I addressed this with Nyal and he said using a loveseat configuration for the 2 middle seats, I'd only be 18" off center. I need at least 4 for the front row with 4 people being in my immediate family. I think 5 would leave not enough room on the side aisles and/or the end of the row seats being too close to the side surround speakers. I'll just lean towards the middle a bit haha.

And yes that is how you would walk into the room and sit down.
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I addressed this with Nyal and he said using a loveseat configuration for the 2 middle seats, I'd only be 18" off center. I need at least 4 for the front row with 4 people being in my immediate family. I think 5 would leave not enough room on the side aisles and/or the end of the row seats being too close to the side surround speakers. I'll just lean towards the middle a bit haha.

And yes that is how you would walk into the room and sit down.
Door you have your seats yet? I believe the Fusion Jive's in 5 seat configuration with dual love seats on both sides is around 130" wide. That would give you about 31" aisles. Something like this, IOOIOIOOI. I have been thinking of going with this set up myself for maybe two rows of 5.

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Door you have your seats yet? I believe the Fusion Jive's in 5 seat configuration with dual love seats on both sides is around 130" wide. That would give you about 31" aisles. Something like this, IOOIOIOOI. I have been thinking of going with this set up myself for maybe two rows of 5.

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I have 1 row of 4 seats already purchased in a IOIOOIOI config but that could be put in the 2nd row. This 5 row could work if it's only 130" wide.
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I have 1 row of 4 seats already purchased in a IOIOOIOI config but that could be put in the 2nd row. This 5 row could work if it's only 130" wide.
Email Roman at Fusion. He will work with you, but said his supply of armless chairs was dropping. I probably won't be ready for seats till next year sometime I hope.

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Our theaters are almost twins in size (mine is 26.5' x 16' x 9'). I also would have went with four seats if I could have found someone to install a steel beam so I could have had 2 supports columns removed. I sit just over 10' from a 124" wide 2.40:1 screen and for me it is just about perfect (a little smaller might be a bit better, maybe not). I have the Fusion Jives which are narrower than "standard" seats but I find them plenty big and very comfortable.
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Our theaters are almost twins in size (mine is 26.5' x 16' x 9'). I also would have went with four seats if I could have found someone to install a steel beam so I could have had 2 supports columns removed. I sit just over 10' from a 124" wide 2.40:1 screen and for me it is just about perfect (a little smaller might be a bit better, maybe not). I have the Fusion Jives which are narrower than "standard" seats but I find them plenty big and very comfortable.
I am looking into having an engineer come out about moving a column 3' and then would go with one row of 5 or a row of 6 with a love seat in the middle. I then would build a second row bar with bar stools. Most of the time it will just be my wife and I, but I have a feeling if I put a PS4 Pro in my theater my kid will want to take it over with his friends. The room would be roughly 20'x25'x8.58' and am looking at doing a 153" wide 2.40:1 AT screen.

My current recliner I sit in is the same width and depth of the Jives, so I know I will fit in those with room to spare.

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Is that concept drawing missing a step? I expect the two steps outside the space is correct, and there's an omitted step in the theater.

I personally like the idea of a wide entry hallway but I can't say I am a fan of the walk to the av rack. The hallway is a nice opportunity to build a little drama to entering the theater.

I do wonder if one has a nice movie collection, if some media storage might be worked in, if the av rack went to the other end of the hall. Not sure what depth is there, but a side by side rack could
be supported side wall to side wall, on some steel. A lower panel could be removable, for rear rack access, depending on the depth there. That common wall might also work well for an actively
cooled stack, where you could bring in cool air from down low, and vent up top, using the volume of air from the room beside the theater.

I gather there's to be a daisy chained smoke detector in the theater? And I'd look into if there are any codes regarding the doors swinging outwards. The again, that window is a potential
secondary egress. I expect it will be covered over, but if it isn't, you might find with the riser, code might be asking for safety glass.
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Is that concept drawing missing a step? I expect the two steps outside the space is correct, and there's an omitted step in the theater.

I personally like the idea of a wide entry hallway but I can't say I am a fan of the walk to the av rack. The hallway is a nice opportunity to build a little drama to entering the theater.

I do wonder if one has a nice movie collection, if some media storage might be worked in, if the av rack went to the other end of the hall. Not sure what depth is there, but a side by side rack could
be supported side wall to side wall, on some steel. A lower panel could be removable, for rear rack access, depending on the depth there. That common wall might also work well for an actively
cooled stack, where you could bring in cool air from down low, and vent up top, using the volume of air from the room beside the theater.

I gather there's to be a daisy chained smoke detector in the theater? And I'd look into if there are any codes regarding the doors swinging outwards. The again, that window is a potential
secondary egress. I expect it will be covered over, but if it isn't, you might find with the riser, code might be asking for safety glass.
This makes sense to have the AV rack on the other end of the hallway, shorter walk and as you mentioned sight lines to the screen. The step inside the room is 7.5" whereas in the hallway it has to clear 11.25" so 2 smaller steps makes sense there. Do you need more than 1 step for a difference of 7.5" in height?
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@Tedd Here's where there is an unused waste line in the wall. You can see it in earlier photos I posted of this wall.

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Spoke with Roman at Fusion this morning and confirmed that a row of 5 seats in |00|0|00| config is 130 1/4" wide for the Jive model. That combined with future acoustic treatment will make the aisles a little narrow, but the main people using the room will be my immediate family, and we are thin/smaller people, so I don't think it will be an issue. I'm glad I could take advantage of the New Years sale he had going on, definitely helped out a lot, today is the last day of that sale.

On that note I hope everyone has a happy and safe New Years! Cheers to the year I'll be building and finishing my theater!
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Spoke with Roman at Fusion this morning and confirmed that a row of 5 seats in |00|0|00| config is 130 1/4" wide for the Jive model. That combined with future acoustic treatment will make the aisles a little narrow, but the main people using the room will be my immediate family, and we are thin/smaller people, so I don't think it will be an issue. I'm glad I could take advantage of the New Years sale he had going on, definitely helped out a lot, today is the last day of that sale.

On that note I hope everyone has a happy and safe New Years! Cheers to the year I'll be building and finishing my theater!
Glad it worked out for you. I just wish I could make a decision on what plan I will go with. Right now we will be putting time and money into getting our rental ready to re-rent when our renters move out at the end of the month. We are replacing the main level's carpet with LVT flooring and will have to repaint it again.

There is only three of us in our family and I was thinking of going with a row of three with a back bar, but like the idea of a row of 4 for when we have another couple over for movie nights everyone gets a nice seat. Back bar would be for over flow when we have a party.
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Received some exciting stuff from Nyal today. First look at speaker layout. Plan is to wire for 11 bed-layer speakers, but I'll actually be installing only 9, omitting the rear set of side surrounds. And the subwoofers are a typo, it should read "V3612" not V1812.

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