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My garage rack. Has anyone used a server rack as a home theater rack. What's the difference?
Fit and finish, side panels, other features, square holes vs threaded, they're all racks... assuming 19" wide. There are some 23" wide racks used for carrier telco installs, but they're a lot less common. Always good to check the width before buying.... (anyone need a 23" shelf?)

If the rack has the features you want I suppose it doesn't really matter if it's specifically targeted toward one market or another. I'd think it'd matter more if you were trying to use an AV rack for server purposes where the servers require a particular set of rack features (for mounting, typically).
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I had an extra 22 inch monitor lying around and decided to rack it.
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In the theater: I found a used Middle Atlantic Slim 5-29 rack that would work perfectly for what I wanted to do. I framed the opening just large enough for it to fit and then installed it so it would be flush with the trim boards.




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Upstairs: It was just a fairly plain cabinet with one single shelf behind the doors and the components haphazardly stacked inside. There was no before picture taken . I used a set of Middle Atlantic BRK 12 rack rails cut down to just over 11U tall to create a rack inside the cabinet.







The rails were attached to 1/2" plywood strips (6" wide) that were edge banded and stained to match the cabinet and then pocket screwed to the top and bottom of the cabinet. I used a couple 1U blank panels during installation to keep the 19" spacing consistent. The end result was 10U of usable rack space inside the cabinet:

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Just picked this up at an Arcade action of all places. Got it for a 100 bucks. Came with a bunch of gear in it. Even a nice 5.1 integra receiver. It’s going in that closet , I’m cutting a hole in the wall and framing it out. My old rack from my old house was to wide to fit so this worked out well. Side note any one near King ,NC I have a free rack in my garage that needs a home.
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Fit and finish, side panels, other features, square holes vs threaded, they're all racks... assuming 19" wide. There are some 23" wide racks used for carrier telco installs, but they're a lot less common. Always good to check the width before buying.... (anyone need a 23" shelf?)

If the rack has the features you want I suppose it doesn't really matter if it's specifically targeted toward one market or another. I'd think it'd matter more if you were trying to use an AV rack for server purposes where the servers require a particular set of rack features (for mounting, typically).
One could shim down a 23" rack, if it has the sliding side rails. A couple of pieces of stained wood between the rails and the slide, would get you the proper spacing. Or one could simply section such as a rack vertically, with a $10 Harbor Freight 4" angle grinder.
(I've seen two of these racks free, for simply picking them up, and hauling them away.)
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One could shim down a 23" rack, if it has the sliding side rails. A couple of pieces of stained wood between the rails and the slide, would get you the proper spacing. Or one could simply section such as a rack vertically, with a $10 Harbor Freight 4" angle grinder.
(I've seen two of these racks free, for simply picking them up, and hauling them away.)
"Could" doesn't mean should. Why take a durable scheme like metal rails with metal shelves and weaken it considerably with wood spacing?

Free, only to be stuck with time spent on a hack job? Doesn't seem very sensible. I'm all for bargains, but that's a bit much.
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It often amazes me just how cheap these racks sell for on the used market.

I was looking for wheels for my WRK, and came across this actively cooled Middle Atlantic credenza, at $300 CDN. Didn't need all the shelves so I flipped out my WRK with some of those shelves, set up a trade set up for some shelves for bits I need, and added some stuff to my Slim5. The rack also cam with a baggy of parts and screws, and a set of feet for my Slim5. The WRK was flipped out fast, for a $130 CDN return.

Future plan are to build new doors, using the doors as templates, and take the rack full width of the media room.
I like the look of the media center in the last picture and plan to host dual subs, in panels added to the end of the rack. The idea being to create a statement piece of furniture, semi recessed into a wall.
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"Could" doesn't mean should. Why take a durable scheme like metal rails with metal shelves and weaken it considerably with wood spacing?

Free, only to be stuck with time spent on a hack job? Doesn't seem very sensible. I'm all for bargains, but that's a bit much.
Where does it say it would look hack? I don't preach hack, I preach dollar savvy while developing some simple skills that often can be taken forward. One needn't use soft wood, so one
can do substantial and still do it rather affordably. I'd get something a bit more unique and enjoy a couple of hours outside, rather then spend time at work to pay for it all. It's maybe not
for everyone, but it might be for some.

One could also use square tube channel steel to space the rails, if so desired. It's just steel and it paints up really well.
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Where does it say it would look hack? I don't preach hack, I preach dollar savvy while developing some simple skills that often can be taken forward. One needn't use soft wood, so one
can do substantial and still do it rather affordably. I'd get something a bit more unique and enjoy a couple of hours outside, rather then spend time at work to pay for it all. It's maybe not
for everyone, but it might be for some.
Penny wise, pound foolish.

Anything is possible, I suppose. Many folks put no value on their time making all kinds of things seem 'affordable'.

It's you that implied how it'd look, not me.

My point was metal racking and shelving provides a far superior setup than grafting wood in-between, from a mechanical standpoint. Some of us have dealt with heavy amps, power conditioning or other gear that benefits/needs secure mounting. That was my point about avoiding surprises when shopping for rack bargains. Not some misplaced sense of economy or ramblings about skills.
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I agree people don't put more emphasis on their time. But often that little project is someone's idea of leisurely downtime. It might not be "work". Or maybe it's simply a budget
stretching way to get where they'd like to end up at. Save here, to have so spend more elsewhere.

And I agree about avoiding a nasty surprise when rack shopping, but I also would think about what it might take to make something substantial, free or cheap,
to make it work. Then decide if the work is worth the time and energy.

I also wouldn't hesitate to put my eighty pound 2200 MKII in such a rack either. It actually has been mounted in a sectioned rack years ago.
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I had an extra 22 inch monitor lying around and decided to rack it.


What are the primary functions of the monitor in the rack? I’m asking because I’m at the point I need a rack and I’ve just started looking into them.


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For me my rack is outside the theater so it helps when doing setup or calibrations. Plus whatever is going on in the theater can be viewed outside in the rack.
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Just added mine in today. Scored one off Ebay for 25 dollars.

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Has anyone used a server rack as a home theater rack. What's the difference?
Mostly mounting depth - 4-post IT racks are much deeper than typically needed for AV equipment. That means a bigger footprint.

Mine is an old beige Compaq 4-post cabinet that I got for free - took off everything that could be unbolted and sprayed it all black. There were two sets of holes for the front and rear rack rails, so when I put it back together, I used the innermost holes and flipped the rails to give me the shortest possible depth at 26". This matched the Kendall-Howard 4-post fixed rack shelves I bought for heavier gear. For lighter gear, any misc 2-post cantilevered shelf is fine. In the back, moving the rails gave me much easier access to the vertical cabling channels built into the rack (left side of this pic).



This is super old - back when I first racked everything in my last theater. The AVR (70lbs VSX-49TX) and the disc changer stack are on 4-post shelves. The Crown amps have rear brackets added, so they're 4-post mounted too. Side panels are off in this pic.



Here it is after the gear was re-racked, and pushed into its closet in the new theater. Since this pic was taken, my QNAP NAS is now installed in the 3U slot above the UPS units, and the AVR has changed from VSX-49TX to SC-LX901.



If you're a planner... it's a little easier to move gear around in Excel than to guess and check with the real thing...

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These racks can be super flexible in the hands of a DIY'er.

I've always liked this nicely executed mix of wood and metal rack. But most of my racks over the years have been about butting the rack up against drywall,
and simply exposing the area I wanted exposed, and using drywall J channel to create a clean edge. Pretty cheap to do, with a nice enough built in look.
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These racks can be super flexible in the hands of a DIY'er.

I've always liked this nicely executed mix of wood and metal rack. But most of my racks over the years have been about butting the rack up against drywall,
and simply exposing the area I wanted exposed, and using drywall J channel to create a clean edge. Pretty cheap to do, with a nice enough built in look.
Is that yours Tedd?

Yes. The mix of woodwork and metal gives it a clean classy look.
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Not mine, but it's one that I really like the mixed looks of that.

My rack is a Slim5, raised but cut down to 22U. It is pretty much the polar opposite of that rack. $5 worth of drywall J channel, to trim out the edge of the drywall
opening for the rack. It is as minimalistic, and as cheap, as I could figure out. The rack is right outside the theater door, and basically makes something useful out of
a 6' deep but 24" wide space, that steps down to down to 18" wide about 26" back of the drywall.
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For me my rack is outside the theater so it helps when doing setup or calibrations. Plus whatever is going on in the theater can be viewed outside in the rack.
How did you 'rack' the monitor? I mounted a single arm mount to the side of my rack, but I really like how yours looks inside.
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How did you 'rack' the monitor? I mounted a single arm mount to the side of my rack, but I really like how yours looks inside.
I used this rack mount for the tv.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then found a custom middle Atlantic faceplate for a Denon 5805 on eBay which fit the tv pretty good.
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My rack (installed as part of my recent theater build)...

From top to bottom

2x patch panels
HP 5130-48G-POE+ - 4SFP+ (core switch)
Netgear XS728T (10GbE switch)
Netgear SRX5308 (router)
Qnap TS-1263U-RP (4k HDR film server)
Aurender N100H (audio source)
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PlayStation 4 Pro
Xbox One X
Middle Atlantic Laptop Drawer
Control4 EA5 (control brain)
Control4 C4-16AMP3-B (8 zone amplifier)
Datasat RS20i (theater processor)
Datasat RA7300 (7 channel amplifier)
Vent
Mark Levinson No 532 (2 channel amplifier)
Vent
Furman IT-Reference 20i (line conditioner)
APC SMT1500RM2UC (UPS)

Speakers, projector, etc... are in my signature. Planning on starting a thread for my build.

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This rack is awesome is this a 42U? Is it part of the RCS series


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Thank you and yes and yes. It’s the Middle Atlantic RCS4224. I have since added a second one and more equipment. Almost “done” with this iteration of my theater (although it’s constantly evolving...)

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Thank you and yes and yes. It’s the Middle Atlantic RCS4224. I have since added a second one and more equipment. Almost “done” with this iteration of my theater (although it’s constantly evolving...)

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I’m thinking strongly about getting the 35u. What lights are you using in the rack?


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Thank you and yes and yes. It’s the Middle Atlantic RCS4224. I have since added a second one and more equipment. Almost “done” with this iteration of my theater (although it’s constantly evolving...)

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While this isn't exactly a rack, it does share history with me cleaning up my first metal rack.

This is a 1930 era art deco casting, that came with many flaws. I could have filled the flaws except there's a pretty good chance that is lead based paint, so I wasn't about to sand it, grind it, or
disturb the paint in any way. This is it at one coat of primer and two coats of hammered. You can see that severe bit of rash on the upper surface has begun to fill in. Another coat, maybe 2,
and I expect the flaws will have disappeared entirely.

My past success with refinishing a rack and some commercial theater seats years ago, is being revived, as a featured finish for the next home theater. Since I have flipped a few racks over the
years, I also have a motley collection of face plates, that were set aside. I expect to try to salvage some of them and see if a wood "sandwich" and a simple wood frame can establish a perfect
face plate opening. A router and bearing guide would then be used, to create the new opening. Then rattle can hammered paint gets put to work. One rather nice plus of flipping a few racks
over the years, and retiring some upgraded gear to the credenza, is the credenza is all anodized plates.

My preowned Slim5 for the theater has already been cut down in height, and if I can salvage a few face plates, with new openings, my motley collection of mixed face plate finishes, with
see a unifying coat of hammered paint. The Slim5 while in near mint shape, might also see it's front rails and exposed edges of the top and bottom sprayed out.
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Finished my rack, at least until I upgrade components in the future. Interestingly enough the two Ace Infinity fans are keeping the rack cooler than the air in the room on their lowest setting. The 1u shelf holds the Nvidia Shield. I don't think anybody makes a custom faceplate for that like the Xbox.

I don't know why the picture uploaded sideways, the original isn't rotated like that.
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I’m thinking strongly about getting the 35u. What lights are you using in the rack?


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I ran some LIFX strips that I have programmed to work with my Control4 setup.


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Did some work to figure out if my equipment would work with the RSC 3524 and it does! I’ll even have some space to grow.

Question the rack will be at least 20 feet from my seating will the DC fans that come with the rack make too much noise?


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Finish my rack until later this year when I upgrade my receiver to Monoprice HTP-1 or Emotiva RMC-1

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Mostly mounting depth - 4-post IT racks are much deeper than typically needed for AV equipment. That means a bigger footprint.

Mine is an old beige Compaq 4-post cabinet that I got for free - took off everything that could be unbolted and sprayed it all black. There were two sets of holes for the front and rear rack rails, so when I put it back together, I used the innermost holes and flipped the rails to give me the shortest possible depth at 26". This matched the Kendall-Howard 4-post fixed rack shelves I bought for heavier gear. For lighter gear, any misc 2-post cantilevered shelf is fine. In the back, moving the rails gave me much easier access to the vertical cabling channels built into the rack (left side of this pic).



This is super old - back when I first racked everything in my last theater. The AVR (70lbs VSX-49TX) and the disc changer stack are on 4-post shelves. The Crown amps have rear brackets added, so they're 4-post mounted too. Side panels are off in this pic.



Here it is after the gear was re-racked, and pushed into its closet in the new theater. Since this pic was taken, my QNAP NAS is now installed in the 3U slot above the UPS units, and the AVR has changed from VSX-49TX to SC-LX901.



If you're a planner... it's a little easier to move gear around in Excel than to guess and check with the real thing...

Thanks for the reply. Looks great!
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Finish my rack until later this year when I upgrade my receiver to Monoprice HTP-1 or Emotiva RMC-1

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Nice the new monoprice HTP-1 looks very nice.im debating on it for when I upgrade

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