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post #1 of 127 Old 05-21-2007, 06:53 PM - Thread Starter
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Some of you may have seen some of my posts to far, regarding certain questions I have had during the planning process of this whole HT build. From curtains for sound absorption to rack design I have finally reached a point where I can take those blind faith leaps foreward into construction.

First, my inspiration (I recommend everyone find an HT picture somewhere that they can use for inspiration.) Here is mine:


Second, the space I have to work with




Next, what I have planned:
Here is the schematic drawing I have come up with (to scale 1ft = 1 block)






Check out my 3D rendered walk-through ** CLICK HERE**

I am planning a center raised ceiling cut out that you can see on this walkthrough ** CLICK HERE**





Here are some stills from the walkthrough:




My sound reflection points using First Reflection Point


The rack will go under the stairs. I used Rack Tools to come up with this


The wet bar in back I want to be similar to this:


I have been planning the cable runs as of late and here is what I have



INPUT PLEASE!! IS THERE ANYTHING I HAVE FORGOTTEN, ANYTHING I NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, ANYTHING I SHOULD DO DIFFERENTLY?



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I think it's going to look great. I love the use of wood everywhere in the inspirational picture. Are you sure you want to use that couch though? That won't fit that many people very comfortably for a long duration.
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What you gonna do about that plumbing in the back?
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I think it's going to look great. I love the use of wood everywhere in the inspirational picture. Are you sure you want to use that couch though? That won't fit that many people very comfortably for a long duration.

That wood is great isn't it. I am going to do that on the pilars along the sides, but not all of the walls like he did.

The couch is a problem right now. You think I should go with theater seating instead? I am looking for seating that is a little more intimate than separates though.

As for the wet bar. I am going to have to have it plumbed in...

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The couch is a problem right now. You think I should go with theater seating instead? I am looking for seating that is a little more intimate than separates though.

Intimate as in facing each other for conversation, or intimate as in snuggling up together and watching a movie? You can get theater seats in loveseat/couch configurations that allow for snuggling. You could also throw some spillover chairs in there that swivel for conversation if that is you intent.

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Or get a couch that pulls out into a bed...................well maybe that is a little to intimate!! LOL
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That's some nice clean space to work with. I'm envious of your ceiling height.

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Looks like a great project please document your progress we will all follow it.

however, based on the body language of your in-laws It looks like they think you are a little daft about this project.

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Looks like a great project please document your progress we will all follow it.

however, based on the body language of your in-laws It looks like they think you are a little daft about this project.

You nailed it right on the head!!!

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That's some nice clean space to work with. I'm envious of your ceiling height.

I still wish I had another foot.


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Intimate as in facing each other for conversation, or intimate as in snuggling up together and watching a movie? You can get theater seats in loveseat/couch configurations that allow for snuggling. You could also throw some spillover chairs in there that swivel for conversation if that is you intent.


Intimate as in snuggling up together and watching a movie. Thats why I was thinking of using a small sectional. Something like this maybe:






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It all depends on whether you are making a media room with other purposes or a dedicated theater room. I think the sectional couch is a terrible idea in a theater room. At the very least have your couches, if you are using couches, all facing the screen.

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It all depends on whether you are making a media room with other purposes or a dedicated theater room. I think the sectional couch is a terrible idea in a theater room. At the very least have your couches, if you are using couches, all facing the screen.


I agree, sectional is a bad idea in theater, but I do intend to make this more of a 'media' room where you can hang out. Will be a lot of Xbox going on as well PC,Wii, poker, drinking, partying, passing out, waking up and partying some more...

Its just that I dont want a stuffy, row type theater seating that dictates everybody shut up, face foreward and watch the move like some fascist scene from 1984.

I like the spinning chair idea. I think I will try to find some space for that... front right?

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Some of the most comfortable and relaxing theaters I have been in had nothing but oversized couches and loveseats in them. Oh and those huge beanbag chairs are great as well.

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Some of the most comfortable and relaxing theaters I have been in had nothing but oversized couches and loveseats in them. Oh and those huge beanbag chairs are great as well.

Max, you always get me...

btw, where is that post on DIY flush rack mount.

For those of you who dont know, max has one of the best looking racks on AVS. And his equipment mount is nice too. Here is a picture of it:


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JJ, I don't know how new that house is, it looks brand new. You may want to make sure you live through a really heavy rainstorm to be sure it stays nice and dry before hiding the exterior walls behind insulation and drywall.

I'm actually kind of surprised that there isn't any insulation on those walls already? Or did you take it down to paint the walls? usually code requires a certain amount on any new construction.
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For those of you who dont know, max has one of the best looking racks on AVS. And his equipment mount is nice too.

Well done!

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I'm actually kind of surprised that there isn't any insulation on those walls already? Or did you take it down to paint the walls? usually code requires a certain amount on any new construction.

Um...its an unfinished basement. That big window is one of these Egress Windows. Walls? I assume you mean the ceiling supports because the walls are just concrete.? Where we are in Michigan there is no code that says you need batting in ceiling for basement. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are talking about.

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The insulation he is talking about would be installed on the side foundation walls. Code applies in 'every' state.
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There's prescriptive code and then there's design-based code.

If you have a home builder that is building the same house again and again (or a custom home), there are tradeoffs that can be designed to meet the energy code. Larger overhangs, low-e glass, high efficiency furnaces. Plug them all into REScheck. It's it passes, you're good to go. Of course, you need a licensed professional to do so. The rest of us just look at the book and it says "use R19 here, R30 there, and R11 there".

Or the insulation could be on the outside of the foundation.

Or the inspector could have done a drive-by inspection.

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Actually my house is built the same here in MI. I know in my case all I have outside of my basement walls is the waterproofing system. No insulation on the outside and none on the inside until you frame the walls. JJ you will probably have your basement done before me based on the rate I am going

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I don't really get the code thing. But I know that I looked at 6 'new build' houses while shopping for this one, all of which had unfinished basements, and none of them had any insulation on the walls. All were just bare concrete.

Anyway, doesn't matter... I went back to MI this last weekend to get things ready to start moving. I assembled my Middle Atlantic rack while there. Stay tuned for pics!!!

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Well, here is the rack assembly...

Again, I have some inspiration for my vision of the rack mount under the stairs. Of course I like max lomax's rack, as stated above. I have also taken it a step further.

I like the way this rack is flush with the wall and thus the wallpaper actually can go over the front rails creating a very clean look. Now, I probably wont do it this way, but I do want to do something similar:


There is one problem, but I will get to that later.


First, I am installing two Middle Atlantic Slim 5 (part# 5-21) racks. They are 40 inches tall and will be about 40 inches across after they are ganged together. I am not using the cable chase like they show on the Middle Atlantic web site. They will just be ganged together directly.


Here is how they arrived to me:


One of them open:


The nuts and bolts:


One is done:


Both of them together. In front of where they will be roughed in soon:


Here is closer to where it will ulitimately go:


And hopefully look like this (except it will be more like 24 inches off the ground:


Found this in the gallery, mine should look similar:

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So, that is the fun part...Now to my problem.
I want to mount the side rails flush with the drywall once it is in, so that I have the option to do the wallpaper thing or at least maybe something similar. The issue is that the top and bottom of the Slim 5 have face plates that stick out about a half an inch from the rail:



No big deal except if it is mounted how I want, the top and bottom plates allow you to see behind them and see the bushings for the screws. Looks bad.

What I think I might do is remove the top and bottom decorative plates and just leave whats underneath exposed. Then its flush. Its not too bad:






What does everybody think? Any ideas?


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Well, I have been doing some work on the design for the little touches of the basement such as cannister lighting, ceiling, wet bar and electrical placement.

Here are the results of my efforts:
This shows where the switch banks will be - where the Grafik Eyes will go

Right now, 1 switch for front 2 canisters closest to screen wall
1 for next four canisters back, 1 for standard canisters over wet bar(2) and the canister in front of closet to right of stairs. 1 for all 6 sconces on columns. 1 for front track 8 feet back from front wall up in left side of cieling recess. 1 for back track 21 feet back from front wall also on left side up in cieling recess. So far, that is 6 switches in media room



Here is a good shot showing the new ceiling dimensions and cannister lighting. There are 6 canisters in HT. Sconces will go on pilars. Notice the ceiling is now off set as to minimize symmetery.

Here are the cannisters I am going to use (4 inch):

Notice how the bulb is really far recessed into fixture for great focus.


I have been thinking about bass traps lately. My question is, if I filled my front pilars with sand would they have much function as bass traps?





I have been designing the wet bar lately as well. I think I want to do a 'Scotch bar' type design. I just need to make sure I keep on top of the clanking from all the glass.
Tentatively settled on 7 feet from side wall. Will come out about 5 feet from back wall. Side wall side to have the ice maker on it. Front side to have refrigerator on right end of front.
Here are some pictures:


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Going to have a fan in equipment room under the stairs tied into a vent leading to outside the house. I want to keep the area air tight so that what the fan is on, air comes in throught the front of the rack. Anybody seen special fans for this application, rather than just using a bathroom fan? I was wondering if anyone made a fan with a digital output so my PC could show RPM, Temp, Thermostat setting and whatever else the fan contains.

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Framing is almost complete:






Cieling recess:



Almost time to get the electrical in and then the low voltage stuff...

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Well, finally I am not trying to do everything from Chicago. I am here now in Southeast Michigan, and its go time...

The high and low voltage stuff is run as is the ELK M1G security system wires.

Here are some pics:








Here is a pic of the equipment room.

The wires are of course not organized yet. One issue that I am concerned about is that I have just found out by building code, the inside of the equipment room has to be drywalled, that is if there is going to be a door on it. I am wondering if I can get around this by leaving it open and just hanging a door after inspection.

What I am worried about is having drywall limit my ability to retro run wires later and add on to the ELK M1's automation.

Here are some closeups of the vent fan that will be in the equipment room. I want to hook the switch up to a thermostat. I need to search for a good small fan home automation type switch. Something I can run into my PC so I can get fan stats over the network.




You can see, above the fan is the outlet for my conduit to the projector.
Here is a shot of the ceiling in the theater where the conduit runs from. The projector (most likely an Optoma HD81) will mount 16ft back; for a 16:9 diagonal screen size of about 110".

Last pic today is a shot of the rear of the room. Up in the back wall of the raised cieling area you can see the rear speaker outlets. I think I am only going to do a 6.1 rather than 7.1 set up so I will just use the one on the right side of the pic since that is almost perfect with the geometric center of the room.


Drywalling starts this week...

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You best get to insulating that takes longer then you think unless you are hiring it out.

You have a great start cant wait to see the finishing touchs

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Insulation is done!






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hehe you are moving pretty quik. insulating SUX

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Time to start drywalling.

Now I am confused on which projector to get. Thought it was gonna be the Optoma HD81, but doesn't look like thats going to work with my geometry.

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Here is a great shoot out that is helping me decide: HERE

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