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It pulls tight on all sides. In these photos only one side is attached. When the tracks for the other 3 sides are attached, they will pull the other 3 sides tight.
The fabric panels are now finished and the screen is installed as well as the carpet. Middle Atlantic made an error on the faceplate for my AVR X6500H, so I am waiting for a replacement before I can do the rack wiring, and then I will bring in the chairs and install to Buttkickers.

Getting close.
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The fabric panels are now finished and the screen is installed as well as the carpet. Middle Atlantic made an error on the faceplate for my AVR X6500H, so I am waiting for a replacement before I can do the rack wiring, and then I will bring in the chairs and install to Buttkickers.

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there's some nice theaters in here, but the square footage of some of these 'small theaters' is as much as my whole house...
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there's some nice theaters in here, but the square footage of some of these 'small theaters' is as much as my whole house...
You and me both.

No different than lakeside "cottages".
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Mine is just 18’x13’ + the space for the in wall speakers. That brings it to 24’x15’. I worked the speakers that are behind the screen, around a furnace. I had to build a sound isolation wall between the furnace and the speakers. That just affected the width of the speaker area.
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Mine is just 18’x13’ + the space for the in wall speakers. That brings it to 24’x15’. I worked the speakers that are behind the screen, around a furnace. I had to build a sound isolation wall between the furnace and the speakers. That just affected the width of the speaker area.
Starting to install the chairs and if you look at the first image, you can see the star ceiling.
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Starting to install the chairs and if you look at the first image, you can see the star ceiling.
Wow, great setup you have there. Loving the colors and textures of everything!
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I've been meaning to do this for a while - time to add McTheatre II to the list of small theater builds. It started out as a 10'6"W x 13'8"L x 9'H 2nd floor bedroom with a bump-out for the entry door at the left-rear. With a room this size, my project is a shoe-horning of extreme proportions....

Build thread: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/19-de...ld-thread.html Here are the high points:

- Seating: 2 rows of 3 seats each with an aisle on the left. Due to size constraints (both row width and recline depth) and lack of recliners that would fit, I was originally going with couches - but by pure luck found commercial recliners in a local theater that met my requirements. I tracked down the vendor (Camatic) and have ordered from them.
- Video: ~104" width 2.35:1 DIY spandex AT screen, lit by a Panasonic PT-AE8000U. (Not biting on 4K just yet.)
- Audio: 9.2 to start with, but installed one pair of ceiling speakers (M8-C) for future Atmos top-middle and 9.2.2. Dual-opposed 18" subs are built into the attic, and 6 surround channels are infinity RS-2 series bookshelves built into custom enclosures that are part of the columns. Front LCR will be infinity RS-3s similarly built into in-wall boxes.
- Misc: I have been told my attic pull-down stair integration with the soffit is awesome and likely one-of-a-kind.

Build is still in progress, and I hope to be in the class of 2019 completed theaters. It is not far off from being in that "operational, but needs detail work" state that takes forever to finish. Some twists and turns (added features) have lengthened the project but I'm glad I'm doing it all. (AT screen/hidden LCR, hidden/attic subs, Camatic seats, and HVAC rework were all deviations.)

Here are a couple sketchups to visualize the end product. Walls will be DMD burgundy fabric on a GPowers-inspired fabric frame setup. Front 1/3 of the room will be black velvet on frames.



An older one with couches -



And a couple older pics where the columns were still in place for reference. (I'm painting now, so nothing's in its home.)





The attic access still works (pics to prove it are in my build thread )



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Starting to install the chairs and if you look at the first image, you can see the star ceiling.
All the chairs are in now. The Star Ceiling is working. Everything is going, except the Buttkickers. I am having no luck there. I have checked the amps and they are passing signal and I've run separate direct cables, so I am at a loss as to where the problem is. I have a local AV company coming in in a week to check it out. But other than that, things are great!
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All the chairs are in now. The Star Ceiling is working. Everything is going, except the Buttkickers. I am having no luck there. I have checked the amps and they are passing signal and I've run separate direct cables, so I am at a loss as to where the problem is. I have a local AV company coming in in a week to check it out. But other than that, things are great!
This looks really awesome and is making me rethink my layout for my theater. I could leave mine the way it is, but if I turn mine 90 degrees I could have 16'x24' room instead of 14'x25'-10". I would just give up the back bar.

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All the chairs are in now. The Star Ceiling is working. Everything is going, except the Buttkickers. I am having no luck there. I have checked the amps and they are passing signal and I've run separate direct cables, so I am at a loss as to where the problem is. I have a local AV company coming in in a week to check it out. But other than that, things are great!
Simply stunning!

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This looks really awesome and is making me rethink my layout for my theater. I could leave mine the way it is, but if I turn mine 90 degrees I could have 16'x24' room instead of 14'x25'-10".
Doesn't that just take you right back a year+? To suggestions made, and which to wrote off and discarded, for reasons I can't even remember.....
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All the chairs are in now. The Star Ceiling is working. Everything is going, except the Buttkickers. I am having no luck there. I have checked the amps and they are passing signal and I've run separate direct cables, so I am at a loss as to where the problem is. I have a local AV company coming in in a week to check it out. But other than that, things are great!
Beautiful theater!


Did you do a build thread? If so I cannot find it!

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Doesn't that just take you right back a year+? To suggestions made, and which to wrote off and discarded, for reasons I can't even remember.....
Ya I orginally had my screen on my north wall years ago before building walls, but my brother in law thought the beam would be distracting to people watching, but seeing this theater is making me rethink it. I would have to move some walls, but would be the worst part of it. The question is which way to turn it? If I put the screen on the north wall I am height limited on the screen, but could have the projector behind or on the back wall and a short HDMI cable along with all my equipment next to it. If I go with the screen on the south wall I could go with about any screen, but would either have a long HDMI cable run or build and equipment room next to the theater to keep the HDMI cable run short. Since nothing is finished I confessing change it.

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Sometimes the perceived negatives of a room, can actually become features, once you hit upon the right solution.

That height limited end of the room, might simply become a feature. One solution is to treat the drop in height as the leading edge of a soffit.
You also could do a blacked out front end as a shadowed front of the room. And maybe you don't do a huge screen if you value picture quality, or
maybe you simply do a scope screen. All these options should be viewed as design "tools", and you can then look at features and see what works best
for your space. Another option is why can't the av rack flip ends, fi you want a short HDMI? You also could look at maybe sliding the theater's positioning,
so the front soffit ends up where you want it.

If you disassemble a wall and rebuild it elsewhere, that's just some drywall material as an expense. And you might be able to simply walk a wall or sections of a wall,
and save on wasting some drywall. The skill to do either of those, are also tools, where time and energy are spent, and money is conserved.
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The fabric panels are now finished and the screen is installed as well as the carpet. Middle Atlantic made an error on the faceplate for my AVR X6500H, so I am waiting for a replacement before I can do the rack wiring, and then I will bring in the chairs and install to Buttkickers.

Getting close.
Hello! Your design scheme is such an inspiration I'm basing my small basement build off of it! I'm some time off before getting to finishing stage - still working on sound proofing & sketch up designs but I'll make sure to start a build thread and give you a shout out.
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Hello! Your design scheme is such an inspiration I'm basing my small basement build off of it! I'm some time off before getting to finishing stage - still working on sound proofing & sketch up designs but I'll make sure to start a build thread and give you a shout out.
Thank you.

I did finally get the Buttkickers all working and everything is now running fine. It has been an oasis for us in the Covid-19 lockdown. We are there almost every night watching most all of the current theatrical movie releases and many of the new and old series.

The only thing I would like to have done differently is I would like to have placed the side wall speakers further front from where they are now. I was limited structurally, but with a little better planning, I might have been able to move them a bit further forward and that would have improved the Atmos effect.
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Thank you.

I did finally get the Buttkickers all working and everything is now running fine. It has been an oasis for us in the Covid-19 lockdown. We are there almost every night watching most all of the current theatrical movie releases and many of the new and old series.

The only thing I would like to have done differently is I would like to have placed the side wall speakers further front from where they are now. I was limited structurally, but with a little better planning, I might have been able to move them a bit further forward and that would have improved the Atmos effect.
Interesting, so the side speakers being say even with the front row, rather than slightly behind, is what you'd recommend? I'm contending with a lot (meaning, spending $ to move pipes around to eek space out) and am just now attempting to determine where my MLP will be.
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I have two pair of side speakers. There is a front pair and a rear pair. I wish the the front pair had been at least parallel to the front row of seats.
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there's some nice theaters in here, but the square footage of some of these 'small theaters' is as much as my whole house...
Ditto on that...
My unfinished basement has 2 potential sections to work with on either side of the stairs...12'x11' and 10'x11' where the 11' measurement goes from the concrete foundation to the lolly columns at the center beam. Max (unfinished) ceiling height is 7'3" and the center beam subtracts another 9" for that stretch of the basement. Then of course there is plumbing that needs to be kept accessible along the ceiling, though mostly that is on the unusable side of the basement.

The larger space has protruded water pipes (in from the street) that would need to be "hidden" (accessibly of course) between the Screen/TV and the LF speaker. Seating can only be backed up as far as the lolly columns unless I limit it to 1 chair in the MLP. That would leave obstructed views for other seating.

The smaller space has 2 casement windows (1 on each wall) and the electrical panel to work around. The best layout here is to put seating against the stairs (10' max/unfinished distance to the screen/TV wall) if i keep LF and LR speakers reasonably close to the sides of the TV/Screen.

The other half (11' side) of the basement is utterly unusable give the egress, sewer plumbing and laundry. Given the low ceilings and the small space I don't really see that a projector is viable, though that could make possible hiding the center speaker behind the screen a better option for the sound. Still that would probably mean pushing the screen to a max 9' from the viewing position.

Anyone here facing limitations like this that you have practical work-arounds for?

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I like your theater, do you have a build thread?

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If you go back to #333 Page 12 06-12-2018, 06:23 PM of 382 Old 06-12-2018, 06:23 PM you will find the start of my posts on my build. I didn't do a separate thread. It was all in this one.

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Are you using a track system for the fabric? If so, which one?
Sorry for missing this question earlier:

The system is Walmate:

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I used a fabric I purchased from a theater builder I had seen in a magazine article. He had some remaining. I have some remaining now too, in case someone else would like to buy the roll from me.
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It's been over a year since I last posted in this thread. My small theater, McTheatre II, did not make the class of 2019 - but I think things are on track for 2020

Everything from the bottom of the soffit up is completely finished. I ended up catching the right price on the AVR I had my eye on, and added 2 more overhead speakers to bring the layout to 9.3.4.



I made the wall panels in the seating area first, then moved the seats in for good.





Currently working on wall panels around the front of the room, including the equipment closet pivot door which will blend into the left-front sidewall.





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It's been over a year since I last posted in this thread. My small theater, McTheatre II, did not make the class of 2019 - but I think things are on track for 2020...

...Everything from the bottom of the soffit up is completely finished. I ended up catching the right price on the AVR I had my eye on, and added 2 more overhead speakers to bring the layout to 9.3.4.
Great execution!! I really like the color palette in your theater.
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Great execution!! I really like the color palette in your theater.
Thanks PK!

I'm still following along with your build. Really jealous of that large basement space and what you're doing with it.
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