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post #91 of 120 Old 01-11-2019, 12:25 PM
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Just to provide full disclosure, we do have a fireplace in our living room with a Regulator-style clock hung above the mantel. There is no bare wall in the room to accommodate a mounted TV, so we have our 65" OLED set sitting on wooden cabinet/TV stand. The height is just right and serves us well. There is a pass-thru window behind the TV that provides access to the dining room, but we simply don't use that.

It is hard to imagine any room that does not allow for TV placement closer to the floor, even if it is in front of a window, but I suppose it is possible. I lived in one house that required the TV to be positioned in an archway, but we just put a wooden screen behind it.

I would be interested to know how tomtastic managed to put a TV above his fireplace before flat-screens came along.
Didn't have the house then. Before I had my first flat screen which was in early 2007 (an early 1080p screen) I (regrettably) had a big 65" projection screen. Previous house it was up against wall, but after moving it was placed in front of fireplace which looked ridiculous so it had to go.

Downside was going to a smaller screen. The one that went up was a 52" Sharp so smaller screen but it looked better in the room. It was eventually replaced with a 65" LW series LG 3D screen, been using it since 2012. Thought about replacing it but it's a nice TV and nothing wrong with it. For 2D it's fine. The viewing angles don't really matter as much, 3D though, under 10 feet it can show crosstalk, but it's half resolution so better 10 feet back or more. I downsized the audio too, used to have 5.1 then 7.1 setup but moved all that to basement for less clutter. Just have 3.0 audio setup now. I might add some micro rear speakers at some point for 5.0 setup but that would be it.

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Well, I am now an owner of the Z9D, 75”, got a great deal on it for $3,750 new with free shipping.

I looked high and low for an LG 86” 3D unit, but to no avail. The next biggest size that is still for sale with 3D is this Sony z9D.

Can’t wait to get it mounted! I have to get cables routes first though


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Best Buy? Nice. 75" is a big TV. I'm not sure you'd want the 86", it was LCD, the UH9500. I think that would make the crosstalk really bad up close, it's not OLED. There's one listed on Amazon out of box for 8k. I was sort of entertaining the 86" model for awhile but I don't think it would be usable 10' and under which is what I needed.

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Are there any 3D TVs still in production? I went to Best Buy today, and there was no new old stock leftover in 65” in Sony z9d.
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Are there any 3D TVs still in production? I went to Best Buy today, and there was no new old stock leftover in 65” in Sony z9d.
You'll have to go online and look. You might find an open box. The 75" models appear to be in stock. the 65" is sold out.
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When I checked both were in stock online, 65" and 75". Too bad the 75" is double the price of the 65". These are active 3D so I wouldn't buy anyway but it is interesting you can still get a new 3D tv today.

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At the expense of derailing the thread a little, I need help choosing between 65 and 75” for over the mantle. The green tape lines represent the width of a 75” tv. I’ve never had a tv mounted before, and I also don’t like the idea of looking up at a tv.

My good 3D tv is a 77” oled lg, but I’m trying to make sure all my future TVs have 3D in case it fails.
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I found a local dealer with both 65 and 75 new in box old stock. He only has a couple left.
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If you get enough angle, should work depending on how close seating is. Find a mount that has at least 35-40 deg. adjustment, might not take that much but just in case. Hold a yard stick at an angle in front of it and see where the center point meets the seating position should give you an idea of how much forward tilt you'll need. Center of yard stick should be eye level at seating position, that's the idea. Remember the mount will stick out from wall some and the bottom will be close to wall the more you tilt out so depending on how much tilt and distance from wall the mount provides, there's a limit of tilt.

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I’ve never had a tv mounted before, and I also don’t like the idea of looking up at a tv.
So why mount it there? I think a nice clock or large portrait would look better, and the TV can be put where it belongs. Or even better, mount a large mirror above the fireplace angled down to reflect the TV on the opposite wall, then you'll have 4-D TV!

(Yes, I know I am consciously stirring up a hornet's nest, but OP did say he doesn't really like where the TV is going to be positioned.)

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So why mount it there? I think a nice clock or large portrait would look better, and the TV can be put where it belongs. Or even better, mount a large mirror above the fireplace angled down to reflect the TV on the opposite wall, then you'll have 4-D TV!

(Yes, I know I am consciously stirring up a hornet's nest, but OP did say he doesn't really like where the TV is going to be positioned.)
Lol, I guess if you don't mind flipped image but if you could put it on the opposite wall, fireplace mounting probably wouldn't be needed. Yes, if you can avoid fireplace mounting that should be considered first. But if it's the only option at least get the angle where you need it.

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With the AC and coax plates there, it's obvious a TV was meant to be mounted there. But personally I don't like elevated TVs and fireplace mounted TVs either.

But to answer the question (65 vs 75), I would normally say bigger is better. However in this case I'd probably prefer 65, if it fit between the pillars instead of in front of them like the green tape shows for the 75. I think it would just look better fit in there, tucked as far back against the fireplace as possible.
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Thanks for the posts guys. I got the 65” z9 Sony tv. I have a guy installing a mantlemount pro so I can pull it down for anything more serious than afternoon fake news. 🤪
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Above the mantle is the only spot until I pay a carpenter to rip out all the shelving to the right of the fireplace. Nearly every room in the house has a tv wall spot, so the 65” won’t go to waste later on.
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Above the mantle is the only spot until I pay a carpenter to rip out all the shelving to the right of the fireplace. Nearly every room in the house has a tv wall spot, so the 65” won’t go to waste later on.
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I'm so glad there's still 3D home theatre enthusiasts left in the world. I was so disappointed a few years ago to find out that 3D was being phased out from TVs. I was able to get the LG OLED55E6P at the end of 2016 from my local Best Buy in Canada. It had all the features I was looking for: OLED, 4K, 3D, and HDR. Unfortunately it doesn't support Dolby Atmos so I've had to get an Apple TV 4K, which supports Atmos, in order to watch Netflix content with Atmos.

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You can still get 3D movies but no 3D TV. My first and only 3D TV is a Samsung 65" 4k HDR sorry don't know the model..but it is so much better than the passive 1080 HD I've seen before...The 3D on the 4k is easily way better than a 4k HDR film. Not even close. I'd spend $2500 on this TV if I could buy another.

edit: Samsung JS8500 65" Worth the small cost for batteries for the glasses, better than 1080p detail in 3D, just remarkable.

I've done 1080p Transformers vs 4k Transformers on the Blu-Rays, real hard to distinguish the difference between the copies, but everyone (friends of mine that have taken the "4k challenge")agree the 3D is remarkable. They don't give up the glasses easily. Not that I want to watch all TV like this but the movies are awesome, the 3D detail is jaw dropping. Get a copy of Sin City Dame to Kill For and watch it in 3D on this TV and tell me they should kill 3D.

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You can still get 3D movies but no 3D TV. My first and only 3D TV is a Samsung 65" 4k HDR sorry don't know the model..but it is so much better than the passive 1080 HD I've seen before...The 3D on the 4k is easily way better than a 4k HDR film. Not even close. I'd spend $2500 on this TV if I could buy another.

edit: Samsung JS8500 65" Worth the small cost for batteries for the glasses, better than 1080p detail in 3D, just remarkable.

I've done 1080p Transformers vs 4k Transformers on the Blu-Rays, real hard to distinguish the difference between the copies, but everyone (friends of mine that have taken the "4k challenge")agree the 3D is remarkable. They don't give up the glasses easily. Not that I want to watch all TV like this but the movies are awesome, the 3D detail is jaw dropping. Get a copy of Sin City Dame to Kill For and watch it in 3D on this TV and tell me they should kill 3D.
I just started re-watching my Marvel Cinematic Universe Blu-rays starting with Iron Man and I used my LG's built-in 2D-to-3D conversion and it looked pretty cool. I'm 3D for life and I hope at some point 3D for TVs becomes a thing again
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At the expense of derailing the thread a little, I need help choosing between 65 and 75” for over the mantle. The green tape lines represent the width of a 75” tv. I’ve never had a tv mounted before, and I also don’t like the idea of looking up at a tv.

My good 3D tv is a 77” oled lg, but I’m trying to make sure all my future TVs have 3D in case it fails.
We purchased a mount from dynamic mounting, motorized down-and-out with a remote. We didn't do over the fireplace but for our room planning with remodel, mounting was necessary. The mount drops like 1-2 feet and is an easy solution to not wanting to look up at the TV.
Pricey, but if you've got a 77 lg oled I'm sure that's no big thing ;-)

P.S, I want to buy your TV :-P
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Best Buy? Nice. 75" is a big TV. I'm not sure you'd want the 86", it was LCD, the UH9500. I think that would make the crosstalk really bad up close, it's not OLED. There's one listed on Amazon out of box for 8k. I was sort of entertaining the 86" model for awhile but I don't think it would be usable 10' and under which is what I needed.
bought the 75" Z9D from a B2B vendor, Direct technology Group, rep's name was Aaron , 954-739-4700 ext 222. they still have a few left if im not mistaken.

I'm not sure what everyone's problem with Active 3D is, it looks amazing on this TV, no cross talk issues at all.. and the glasses are as light as the passive glasses ive tried out at other places.

i tried an LG OLED 65" ( OLED77G6P ) at Fry's before pulling the trigger on this, and they are great, don't get me wrong, but it had a real problem with fast moving sports action scenes, and the screen just wasnt big enough.

im extremely happy with my 75" Z9D
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I'm not sure what everyone's problem with Active 3D is, it looks amazing on this TV, no cross talk issues at all.. and the glasses are as light as the passive glasses ive tried out at other places.
As far as I know most people don't have a problem with active 3D unless they are sensitive to flickering. I personally prefer passive, but I used active for several years and did fine with it for standard movie-length viewings. Much longer than that and I would need to give it a rest.

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Even though I have a 65" OLED, I prefer my active Benq 1070 and 125" screen which use 144hz glasses so I don't notice any flickering. 10' seating, it's just perfect. The OLED has a really nice picture though, some low light movies that don't work as well on the projector are pretty good on the OLED. Large size and in your face 3D or best image quality possible, hard to decide sometimes and sometimes I watch on projector and rewatch on OLED too. I have a motorized acoustic transparent screen in front of 65" OLED so depends on my mood.

As far as glasses, I think passive are definitely better. Lighter, not as dark. Also, the nose pieces come off my active glasses and get lost, plus having to charge and I bought some Apeman glasses that have the left/right images switched by default, very annoying. I have 6 pairs of Estars which are awesome but they don't make those any more. And they don't appear to make kids active glasses that I've seen. But they do make kids passive glasses. I've only looked for DLP links glasses though.

I like both active/passive, but both have drawbacks too. Hey, as long as you get a system that works best for you and you enjoy it and it looks good to you, that's what's important.

But if I had to just choice one and I'm going by the best 3D experience possible, I would go with a projector. It doesn't even have to be an expensive one either. I think I paid under 700 for mine when it was new. That's really all you need. Save some money and have fun. But of course you need the right room for it. I have mine set up in basement with walls painted black and ceiling tiles a dark gray. I wouldn't put one in a living room that has to be set up every use, I did that for awhile but eventually the projector stayed on the shelf, just too much work setting up.
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Im also thinking of getting the Z9D as i been wanting a 4k TV and this is the only set that offers both 4k and 3D. My aging samsung sometimes has flickers on the middle of the screen across every now and then, Feel like it will die soon. Been using samsung active 3d and wondered how passive would compare. Would i notice a difference, or it it kind of the same? I have no issues with the galsses now and dont mind recharging my pairs every now and then.

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bought the 75" Z9D from a B2B vendor, Direct technology Group, rep's name was Aaron , 954-739-4700 ext 222. they still have a few left if im not mistaken.

I'm not sure what everyone's problem with Active 3D is, it looks amazing on this TV, no cross talk issues at all.. and the glasses are as light as the passive glasses ive tried out at other places.

i tried an LG OLED 65" ( OLED77G6P ) at Fry's before pulling the trigger on this, and they are great, don't get me wrong, but it had a real problem with fast moving sports action scenes, and the screen just wasnt big enough.

im extremely happy with my 75" Z9D
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Long shot here, but does anyone know of a vendor that may have some Z9D models left over?? I have a ZT that Im in love with and I don't want to lose the 3D option, but it is time to upgrade to 4K for me.
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Just found this tread picked up a used Lg E6 65 oled for only 3D use as i still enjoy the 3RD dimension.

Also got a Royole Moon 3D headset that i use now n then.

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Long shot here, but does anyone know of a vendor that may have some Z9D models left over?? I have a ZT that Im in love with and I don't want to lose the 3D option, but it is time to upgrade to 4K for me.
The Z9D 65"/75" was available on Best Buy up until early this year but alas, it looks like they are no longer in stock.

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Long shot here, but does anyone know of a vendor that may have some Z9D models left over?? I have a ZT that Im in love with and I don't want to lose the 3D option, but it is time to upgrade to 4K for me.
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