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Best 3D projector?

Hi whats the best 3D projector at the moment?

My Epson 9400/6050ub died so I'm going to have to return it. Looking for a replacement. For 2D material I will watch a 77'' OLED now.
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How big is your screen? Is 4K important to you or just 1080p 3D?
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Hi whats the best 3D projector at the moment?

My Epson 9400/6050ub died so I'm going to have to return it. Looking for a replacement. For 2D material I will watch a 77'' OLED now.
You didn't like the 3D on the Epson 9400/6050ub? I have the 5050ub and it's best 3D projector I have ever seen and experienced.
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You didn't like the 3D on the Epson 9400/6050ub? I have the 5050ub and it's best 3D projector I have ever seen and experienced.
it broke so replacing with 77'' oled

i thought the 3D was awesome on it
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How big is your screen? Is 4K important to you or just 1080p 3D?


just 1080p and being able to use 3D RF glasses preferably.
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Before I went to 4K, I had the Optoma HD29Darbee, and it was the best 3D I'd ever seen for a 1080p projector. They now have an even brighter version, the Optoma HD39Darbee. https://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD39Da...dp/B075G2TP99/
The Darbee is an added electronic detailer that makes the image almost 4k-like. Glasses are DLP, though, and no crosstalk whatsoever. This can handle very large screens as well.
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Before I went to 4K, I had the Optoma HD29Darbee, and it was the best 3D I'd ever seen for a 1080p projector. They now have an even brighter version, the Optoma HD39Darbee. https://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD39Da...dp/B075G2TP99/
The Darbee is an added electronic detailer that makes the image almost 4k-like. Glasses are DLP, though, and no crosstalk whatsoever. This can handle very large screens as well.


Thank you bob! you are my 3D expert from the heavens.

do u know if the 3D will be as nice or near as nice as my epson 6050ubs was?

Can I use RF glasses with this? I have some RF glasses.. wonder if I can buy an optional emitter which might help..

are dlp glasses better?


This is sold out int he UK. cant find one.. any other alternatives which are better or as god?

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Before I went to 4K, I had the Optoma HD29Darbee, and it was the best 3D I'd ever seen for a 1080p projector. They now have an even brighter version, the Optoma HD39Darbee. https://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD39Da...dp/B075G2TP99/
The Darbee is an added electronic detailer that makes the image almost 4k-like. Glasses are DLP, though, and no crosstalk whatsoever. This can handle very large screens as well.
What 4K projector are you using now? Do you feel like the Optoma HD29Darbee still does 3D better than your current projector? I'm tempted to get the HD39Darbee and compare it to my Epson 5050ub just for 3D application. I realized that 3D performance is more important than 4K HDR to me. I really wish someone did a direct comparison between these two and let me know which one does better 3D.
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What 4K projector are you using now? Do you feel like the Optoma HD29Darbee still does 3D better than your current projector? I'm tempted to get the HD39Darbee and compare it to my Epson 5050ub just for 3D application. I realized that 3D performance is more important than 4K HDR to me. I really wish someone did a direct comparison between these two and let me know which one does better 3D.
Can you please do that and let me know?

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Can you please do that and let me know?
I was hoping that you would! Haha... till I read that you couldn't get it. I did have the Optoma HD146X which has 3600 lumens and brighter than the HD39Darbee but I did not like it for 3D and much prefer the Epson 5050ub. Of course I didn't try it out in my home theater because it was still being built at the time. I'm really tempted to get the 39HDDarbee and give it a try though and use it only for 3D if it does surpass the Epson.
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I would read this shoot out.
Epson HC 2150 vs. Optoma HD39Darbee

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3D Film and Video. The HC 2150 is the clear favorite for 3D. The HD39Darbee's black isn't as dark as with 2D, and the contrast isn't as high, which gives the HC 2150 better contrast. In addition the HC 2150 has the advantage of two 3D color modes. The dimmer one and the HD39Darbee's only 3D mode both have the typical loss of brightness for 3D modes compared with the same projector's 2D brightness, and are bright enough for a dark room or dim lighting. The second HC 2150 3D mode is noticeably brighter--though still less bright than its 2D modes--delivering an extra boost for 3D brightness with only a small loss of color accuracy.
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3D Film and Video. The HC 2150 is the clear favorite for 3D. The HD39Darbee's black isn't as dark as with 2D, and the contrast isn't as high, which gives the HC 2150 better contrast. In addition the HC 2150 has the advantage of two 3D color modes. The dimmer one and the HD39Darbee's only 3D mode both have the typical loss of brightness for 3D modes compared with the same projector's 2D brightness, and are bright enough for a dark room or dim lighting. The second HC 2150 3D mode is noticeably brighter--though still less bright than its 2D modes--delivering an extra boost for 3D brightness with only a small loss of color accuracy.
That's very interesting! Thank you for the link. It seems like if Epson HC 2150 is better than the HD39Darbee in 3D... then Epson 5050ub would likely trounce it! Glad I don't have to buy a HD39Darbee to find out anymore. I do really like the 3D on my Epson but was thinking of doing a dual projector setup if there was something better.
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That's very interesting! Thank you for the link. It seems like if Epson HC 2150 is better than the HD39Darbee in 3D... then Epson 5050ub would likely trounce it! Glad I don't have to buy a HD39Darbee to find out anymore. I do really like the 3D on my Epson but was thinking of doing a dual projector setup if there was something better.

I had the Epson 4050 pro cinema and was very happy with the 3d on it. I now have a JVC RS540 which I have not invested in the 3d emitter, so no comment on it. Instead I bought another Epson but a HC1060 and have an outdoor movie set up with 5.1 sound and a 144" screen. I love this for the warm months.
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3D Film and Video. The HC 2150 is the clear favorite for 3D. The HD39Darbee's black isn't as dark as with 2D, and the contrast isn't as high, which gives the HC 2150 better contrast. In addition the HC 2150 has the advantage of two 3D color modes. The dimmer one and the HD39Darbee's only 3D mode both have the typical loss of brightness for 3D modes compared with the same projector's 2D brightness, and are bright enough for a dark room or dim lighting. The second HC 2150 3D mode is noticeably brighter--though still less bright than its 2D modes--delivering an extra boost for 3D brightness with only a small loss of color accuracy.


oh wow. this is shocking!

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Quick heads up that are other discussions ongoing about what some would consider the best 3-D projector:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...on-vs-jvc.html
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Quick heads up that are other discussions ongoing about what some would consider the best 3-D projector:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/68-di...on-vs-jvc.html
I have been following both threads and it seems like that one is more technical and gives all the reasons why DLP is better at 3D than the LCD ones but I have now watched about 10 3D movies on my Epson and I do not have crosstalk or ghosting for the most part on my Epson 5050ub projector. My brightness is just enough for a 150" scope screen. I'm tempting to try one of those dlp laser projectors in my dedicated HT to give it a try but if I am happy with what I have, not sure if it will be worth the comparison. Crazy part is that my Epson did have tons of crosstalk and ghosting when I first got it and it was unwatchable so I gave up but couple month later, decided to try with different 3D glasses (I had the Samsung SSG-5100 which sucks btw and got Xpand X105) and with couple settings tweak, it was a whole new experience and 3D was amazing.
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I have been following both threads and it seems like that one is more technical and gives all the reasons why DLP is better at 3D than the LCD ones but I have now watched about 10 3D movies on my Epson and I do not have crosstalk or ghosting for the most part on my Epson 5050ub projector. My brightness is just enough for a 150" scope screen. I'm tempting to try one of those dlp laser projectors in my dedicated HT to give it a try but if I am happy zwith what I have, not sure if it will be worth the comparison. Crazy part is that my Epson did have tons of crosstalk and ghosting when I first got it and it was unwatchable so I gave up but couple month later, decided to try with different 3D glasses (I had the Samsun g SSG-5100 which sucks btw and got Xpand X105) and with couple settings tweak, it was a whole new experience and 3D was amazing.
Dlp is a better choice for less crosstalk and native motion handling, on smaller screens due to lower brightness for 2000-2500lm rgbrgb wheel dlps, or less color saturation (and more rainbow risk) for 3000lm dlps. I would stay with 3lcd (epson hc3700/3200/3800...) if you want enough color brightness for your big screen (and 150" is very big for 3d!) and you are used to frame interpolation. Unless you can buy a powerful and expensive laser dlp with fi. Or wait for the Berlin IFA in September...

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Crazy part is that my Epson did have tons of crosstalk and ghosting when I first got it and it was unwatchable so I gave up but couple month later, decided to try with different 3D glasses (I had the Samsung SSG-5100 which sucks btw and got Xpand X105) and with couple settings tweak, it was a whole new experience and 3D was amazing.
This is excellent, hopefully from my ramblings it's inferred that it can be complicated to get good color brightness and comparably high light output from DLP, that color wheel dlp is imperfect in terms of motion, color depth, and sequential color artifacts. And while these two have perfect motion/color performance, 3chip dlp projectors are rare used or prohibitively expensive, and rgb led/laser projectors typically aren't bright enough or if they are are more expensive as well.

We'll get there with DLP, I don't know that we'll see any technological breakthroughs with voltage driven liquid crystal modulation, so it's current performance is about as good as it will get. But for now, that the Epsons perform so well at such a great price is fantastic. Spread the word on the glasses and settings used. 3D is a fantastic thing when you get the display technology right, and combined with object and surround sound provides an incredible av experience.
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