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Why not the 207? Is it not the same as the 107 but with a sub? I was previewing the 107 and 1600 at the store and I was told it's better to use optical than the HDMI as ARC can be finicky. But I was considering the Yamaha options as I can connect my own sub if I choose to. If I did that would the sub take over the bass and open up the sound bar to play more mids and highs? I was considering the Sony options as they have 3 in/1 out for HDMI so I'd use that for switching. But I know wireless subs can lose connection so I'm not sure on those ones.
The YAS-207's wireless subwoofer can be a bit glitchy at times, that's why the YAS-107 is a slightly superior choice due to adding your own subwoofer therefore it may deliver moderately better mids & highs.

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The YAS-207's wireless subwoofer can be a bit glitchy at times, that's why the YAS-107 is a slightly superior choice due to adding your own subwoofer therefore it may deliver moderately better mids & highs.
Fair enough. That is one of the reasons I was considering it. Not sure I can mention prices in here but I seem to be able to get the YAS-107 for cheaper on Amazon US even with the exchange rate to Canadian dollars.
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Last week i’ve bought 55b7 and now i need soundbar for a smaller living room.
I’ve checked local stores and only found yamaha 207 and jbl sb450. They are both priced the same (310e).

Which one should i choose or is there anything better in that price range?
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Last week i’ve bought 55b7 and now i need soundbar for a smaller living room.
I’ve checked local stores and only found yamaha 207 and jbl sb450. They are both priced the same (310e).

Which one should i choose or is there anything better in that price range?
Can you get the Yamaha 107 and a separate subwoofer? That is probably your best option for this price point.
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Can you get the Yamaha 107 and a separate subwoofer? That is probably your best option for this price point.

Unfortunately, no. That was my original choice.
I could order it from amazon, but would have to pay 30% for vat and customs.
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Newb here. Not an audiophile at all and looking for some advice. I'm looking to get a soundbar for my Samsung 4K for my living room, but was originally thinking just a soundbar and bass - but I'm curious about some 5.1 I could get for about $500-$700. I have a much older wired receiver and 5.1 system that I had to disconnect when my wife and I moved, but we can't use it in the living room (entertainment center won't fit the receiver and my wife doesn't want me to drill holes all around the living room again). I plan on using the older system in the basement when it's all finished - but still need to get a soundbar. I was intrigued by the Polk Magnifi Max SR, but really can't find much commentary or reviews about it are fairly mediocre. I did test out the Nakamichi Shockwafe Pro 7.1 and liked it. didn't mind the wired back speakers that went to the wireless bass. I had to return it back to Amazon though since it didn't include the remote (which is supposedly less than stellar anyways). I could tell that soundwise it was good but still not a great as my older system.

In your eye what do you think is the best option for a family movie night and gaming soundbar (PS4/Xbox One/Switch) on a reasonable but not outrageous budget? Go with a 5.1 system like a Nakamichi or just something that's a good 2.1 like a YAS-107BL and a separate bass?

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Have you tried it??
I've already got the SK9Y+SPK8-S before he showed me that... so...

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Can you get the Yamaha 107 and a separate subwoofer? That is probably your best option for this price point.
That's an option I've thought of doing. Would that be a good choice for an apartment bedroom 12'x13' in size?
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That's an option I've thought of doing. Would that be a good choice for an apartment bedroom 12'x13' in size?
Yes, but don't get a downfiring sub if you have a downstairs neighbor. Subs and apartments are tricky propositions; you should be prepared to turn the sub way down at night
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Yes, but don't get a downfiring sub if you have a downstairs neighbor. Subs and apartments are tricky propositions; you should be prepared to turn the sub way down at night
I'm actually getting an SVS PB-1000. Found one used online for a good price. I just sold my two Paradigm PDR-10 subs so right now I have a 5.0 setup while waiting for the PB-1000 to arrive. I like having the full setup but it can be a lot of work to get it to sound just right. I know a sound bar can't outperform a true surround system but I like its simplicity.
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I bought the Costco version of the Yamaha YAS-107 last week and I am not really warming up to it. It sounds really muddy. A little less so with the "clarity" option enabled. It's good for the money, but I think I am looking for something more. Don't need a sub at this point, just a bit more clarity on the sound. What's the next step up?
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I bought the Costco version of the Yamaha YAS-107 last week and I am not really warming up to it. It sounds really muddy. A little less so with the "clarity" option enabled. It's good for the money, but I think I am looking for something more. Don't need a sub at this point, just a bit more clarity on the sound. What's the next step up?
I suggest you try the Sony HT-NT5. The price on it should fall in a couple of weeks once the new Sony soundbars come out.

You could also go pick up a decent subwoofer and add it to the Costco 107. The soundbar should be able to deliver clearer mids and highs with the subwoofer's help.
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we need a small soundbar for a bedroom set. no wider than 29 inches and 3 inches tall. has to fit between goofy TV feet.

the new LG SK1 might be an option. that small is hard to find.

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Just bought 65in LG OLED65B7A, looking for a decent soundbar to support Dolby Vision (netflix) + Atmos (uhd blurays via 4k bd player)
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we need a small soundbar for a bedroom set. no wider than 29 inches and 3 inches tall. has to fit between goofy TV feet.

the new LG SK1 might be an option. that small is hard to find.

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Just bought 65in LG OLED65B7A, looking for a decent soundbar to support Dolby Vision (netflix) + Atmos (uhd blurays via 4k bd player)
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Call me completely crazy, but I am looking for a soundbar that works as receiver and center channel.
My first idea was to buy the Marantz NR1508 because it has a lower profile than most. But receivers these days have so many features I would never use and take up a lot of space.

The soundbar I want:
- has proper 4K passthrough
- allows me to connect HiFi speakers that I pick myself, used for stereo and as left/right channel for surround.
- allows me to connect active subwoofer, chosen by myself (cambridge audio X201) or one that comes with the soundbar.
- (optionally) allows me to connect rear surround speakers (thinking about the Cambridge Audio Minx Min 12)
- Has Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS-MA support.

I want to pick my own HiFi speakers and subwoofer. For HiFi (which would double as left/right channel for surround) I am considering Q Acoustics 3020, Monitor Audio Bronze 2 or KEF Q350. Depends on budget and which one would work well with the soundbar.

Basically, I am looking for a soundbar that would function as (really good) center channel and basic receiver. Does this exist? I have not been able to find it.
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If such a thing exists, I was not able to find it either. There is a kit from Enclave (startup company) that is close in theory, but doesn't allow your own speakers, only their wireless speakers (which seem very large for my taste).

Enclave Audio CineHome HD 5.1 Wireless Audio Home Theater System https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00W972KB4..._5AGZAb43H0T2K
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If such a thing exists, I was not able to find it either. There is a kit from Enclave (startup company) that is close in theory, but doesn't allow your own speakers, only their wireless speakers (which seem very large for my taste).

Enclave Audio CineHome HD 5.1 Wireless Audio Home Theater System
Looks interesting, but you are indeed fully locked into their system. Also, each speaker needs to be connected to a power socket

I am also considering a very small receiver: Onkyo TX L50
Instead of a soundbar, but this receiver is suppose to do 80W at 4 Ohm or 40W at 8 Ohm, and might not be powerful enough to drive the bookshelf speakers I suggested. On the other hand, it might still be better than most soundbars.
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Looks interesting, but you are indeed fully locked into their system. Also, each speaker needs to be connected to a power socket

I am also considering a very small receiver: Onkyo TX L50
Instead of a soundbar, but this receiver is suppose to do 80W at 4 Ohm or 40W at 8 Ohm, and might not be powerful enough to drive the bookshelf speakers I suggested. On the other hand, it might still be better than most soundbars.
The bulk and size of most receivers drove me to a soundbar myself. I don't know why they haven't shrunk in size like most modern electronics have. Heat dispersion when all the amplifiers are in the same box is probably why, but I can't believe they haven't engineered something prettier by now.

Plugging each speaker into a wall socket isn't great, but it moves the amps to the speakers which can shrink the receiver. All a balance I guess. My wife would never want a huge receiver in the living room, so a soundbar it was for me.
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Soundbar for laptop?

Hello everyone,

Years ago, I remember seeing that my uncle had a mini soundbar attached to the top of his laptop screen. I've recently been thinking that maybe I would be interested in purchasing one myself.

Are there any decent ones, or are they all gimmicky jokes? I am not hoping to find one that would classify as audiophile quality. I know that no such miracle product would exist. I am merely trying to find a product that will be a slight upgrade to my 2014 13" MacBook Pro's inbuilt speaker(s).

I can't afford it now, but I plan to eventually purchase some "real" computer speakers at a later date. I would then use the real speakers while sitting at a desk and use the soundbar when watching a movie with my wife on my laptop.

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The bulk and size of most receivers drove me to a soundbar myself. I don't know why they haven't shrunk in size like most modern electronics have. Heat dispersion when all the amplifiers are in the same box is probably why, but I can't believe they haven't engineered something prettier by now.

Plugging each speaker into a wall socket isn't great, but it moves the amps to the speakers which can shrink the receiver. All a balance I guess. My wife would never want a huge receiver in the living room, so a soundbar it was for me.
That makes sense. I wish the whole package was also available in silver or white. Also, I cannot find reviews about this setup unfortunately.

I will consider it as a third option besides the Onkyo TX-L50, Yamaha RX-S601D and Marantz NR1508.

EDIT: it does not support Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA, too bad.

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Hi All, I just got the new LG SK8Y to go with my 55C7. I'm trying to figure out what a good movie or show would be on Netflix to test out the sound and dialogue on the soundbar to see if I want to keep it. I know it's not a 3.1 channel system but the reason I got the soundbar was because at night I've found the background noise/music of movies is way louder than the dialogue but I'm coming up with a blank for what movies or shows I remember noticing it.

I rarely get to watch movies so don't have a ton of time to play around with it before my 2 year old starts watching Sesame Street, haha.

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Heya, i've bought a Pana EZ950 Oled (awesome), but i've sold my old 2.1, Onkyo LS-3100 (sounds pretty good for the price and the use (movies sports and tv, NO music). But i want something better, and living with parents i can't manage to install a 5.1.
A bad thing about Onkyo LS was no DTS , no ARC, no visual commands. Being a 2.1 system (or maybe being a low/mid quality system) voices were a bit low and sub was even too invadent, had to use many times remote to adjust actions scenes or dialogue scenes to equalize volume.

I would like to improve my audio (unfortunately EZ950 audio is pretty bad): something with Hdmi arc, easy to use and compatible with almost all audio formats. And obviously that sounds better than LS-3100.

I came up with 3+1 choices (maybe you can help me):

1- new SONY HT-X9000F soundbar (ZF9 costs a bit too much for a soundbar imho); still a 2.1 but should be better than onkyo, right? (out on market on these days, hoping to find some reviews or to try it as soon as possible)

2- old PANASONIC SC-HTB885 (2015' soundbar, viera link (hdmi arc compatible, remote connections won't be a matter anymore) and it's a 5.1 soundbar.

3- Yamaha RX-V483 with 2x Mission LX-2 (surely the best audio solution, maybe i even should not need any sub or central, have some problem of space and speakers should go in the tv stand under the oled though).

4- a 5.1 system with all speakers on the tv stand, but honestly i think this will be the 1% choice.

I have many many doubts and i hope some of you guys will be able to help me choosing the best thing.

Any help will be surely appreciated.

Thanks in advance!!!
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Help this old timer pick a soundbar

Haven't been on here in over 15 years. Last time you guys helped me build my projector theater room. Well, now retired in new house with no dedicated theater room and would like to regain some of that sensation. Currently have a Sony XBR75X850E mounted above the fireplace. Large room with 18ft ceiling, viewing distance about 15ft. I'd like to keep things simple and go with a really good soundbar placed on top of the mantle under the TV. Good subwoofer is a must. Was also thinking of using wireless rears (I have power there). This will be strictly for home theater use as I have another system for music. Would like Atmos but realize the high ceiling will be an issue and Atmos really isn't a must have. I'm more concerned but quality sound.
Was thinking about the Sony HT-Z9F with the rears. Comments? Suggestions?
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Haven't been on here in over 15 years. Last time you guys helped me build my projector theater room. Well, now retired in new house with no dedicated theater room and would like to regain some of that sensation. Currently have a Sony XBR75X850E mounted above the fireplace. Large room with 18ft ceiling, viewing distance about 15ft. I'd like to keep things simple and go with a really good soundbar placed on top of the mantle under the TV. Good subwoofer is a must. Was also thinking of using wireless rears (I have power there). This will be strictly for home theater use as I have another system for music. Would like Atmos but realize the high ceiling will be an issue and Atmos really isn't a must have. I'm more concerned but quality sound.
Was thinking about the Sony HT-Z9F with the rears. Comments? Suggestions?
If you are looking to spend ~$1000, I think that's the right choice. Maybe wait for some reviews to come out to see what people say about the Z9F's virtual height effects. If they aren't convincing, you could save $600 bucks a get a HTNT5 and a pair of ZR5s instead.

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So...my Onkyo S3500 finally died (thank God, it was struggling for the past two years).

Is the Vizio SB3651-E6 5.1 or YAS 207 (or 107 with the sub) better? I just bought the SB3651 because it has well 5.1 and is currently on sale at Sam's club. My only issue is that it doesn't have 4k HDR passthrough for my TCL 4k HDR TV so I'm using a Toslink cable and it might be causing some slight delays. I could get the 207 to resolve the issue but it doesn't support Dolby Vision.

I'm in a small apartment so I don't want super heavy bass. The most important thing for me is to hear detail and not have muddied sound (especially if it's drowning out dialogue). I think the Vizio fits the bill, but since I'm still within the return period I'm looking for reasons to return it for the Yamaha. Any tips would be appreciated, thanks!
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I would stick the Vizio since it has the wireless rears. The Vizio is meant used with an optical cable so if you can get the delay figured out, you're good to go.

The Yamaha 207 has better basic SQ and a much bigger subwoofer, but no surrounds. That's the essence of the trade-off you're making.

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I would stick the Vizio since it has the wireless rears. The Vizio is meant used with an optical cable so if you can get the delay figured out, you're good to go.

The Yamaha 207 has better basic SQ and a much bigger subwoofer, but no surrounds. That's the essence of the trade-off you're making.
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