Mad Lust Envy
That's a real good question.
One would hope that the crossover gets set in such a way that you never reach the lower frequency or output limit of the soundbar and send all that energy (perhaps below 120hz?) to the sub.
Mad Lust Envy
Well, the soundbar has a bass setting which can basically eliminate almost all audible bass at it's lowest settings. I did this with my Yamaha sub and works well.m All bass is now coming from the sub. Too bad the sub is very finicky with placement, as in regardless oif where I put it in my room, I lose the vast majority of the bass in my seating position, and it's super powerful in other areas of the room. Gonna have to return it and hope my next one doesn't have such bad hotspots.
It's not a problem with the sub, it's a problem with the relative placement of sub and seat and how they interact in the room. No sub on earth can alter the laws of physics.
You'll have to either move the sub, or seat, or both.
Do a search for the "subwoofer crawl" or "sub crawl" and you will find lots of good info about what is happening, and how to fix it.
I swapped out the optical cable and went for HDMI (ARC) today and here are the steps of what it took on my setup to get it working.
For Reference I have...
- Vizio E701i-A3 television.
- Vizio s5430w-C2 soundbar.
- Logitech Harmony Smart Control remote.
- Scientic Atlantic Cable Box with HDMI-out to HDMI 4 input on tv.
- ROKU 3 with HDMI-out to HDMI 3 input on tv.
- All components are hidden in an adjacent closet which is now media closet. All wires fished through wall behind tv.
- 2 HDMI cables from media closet to back of tv.
- Connect an HDMI cable from HDMI 1 (ARC) on back of the TV to HDMI OUT (ARC) on back of the soundbar.
- Turn on the TV and go to Menu, then Settings, then CEC Settings.
- Enable the CEC function.
- Turn ON the System Audio Control.
- Click on Device Discovery and ensure Audio System is found.
- Ensure the soundbar is set to HDMI 6 (ARC) by using the soundbar remote.
- You should now have audio sound coming through the soundbar and the TV speakers have been disabled by default. When you turn up the volume on with the TV remote the soundbar volume should increase.
Let me know if you guys have any questions, hope this helps.
Credit to snoukka for his post & the heads up on CEC needing to be enabled.
She lives in a loft apartment with a large living room/dining area/kitchen and high ceilings. She hates the sound from the TV and wants a soundbar. I originally thought that the S4251W-B4 would be good for her but there are 2 potential problems. First, it might look too small under the TV. If it was centered, I don't see this as being a big issue. Second (and most important), the cables for the satellite speakers are too short. I was hoping to be able to hide the speakers in her open ceiling and angle them down. That would require long cables.
That brings me to the S5430w-C2 soundbar. I don't feel that she needs the rear satellite speakers so this soundbar, combined with a sub, might be the way to go for her. Would this be a decent subwoofer to pair with this soundbar:
If so, I know that I will also need a Y-adapter. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Thanks. It still might not be ideal because her ceilings are high and open and there might not be a way to hide the wires.
Home Depot and the like sells all kinds of wire hiding solutions. But I understand. If you decide to try it, buy it locally, not amazon. This way if anything isn't right or it just doesn't fit the bill, you can return it. But the 5.1 sound bar is nothing short of awesome. If you do try it, it'll be hard to give it up and you'll be figuring out how to make it work, lol.
I even disconnected the inwall HDMI cables and used the include cables from the 3.0 soundbar..and still no sound.
I have a ticket with Vizio and see if they can solve the problem.
I hooked up this soundbar a few days ago and everything was working fine and I was getting loud sound. Yesterday I unplugged the soundbar to move some furniture and when I plugged it back in I noticed the sound of the soundbar had become weakened. What was loud on two led lights before could not be heard anymore. Even when I turn up the volume on the soundbar it sounds like a loud tv and not the dynamic sound I was getting before from the soundbar. I checked my tv speakers were indeed turned off. I called Vizio support and they said it was a volume problem difference betweend the soundbar remote and cable remote based on different volume intervals, but this was not an issue before. Overall the the power of the sound has weakened. Anyone else experiencing this problem? I have the soundbar connected via optical cable.
If you have done so initially, you can also try to re-link the tv remote or cable remote to the sound bar- if you did that initially. And if you did, try turning up the volume on your cable or tv remote and see if that brings the volume back up. I have my cable remote linked to my sound bar andI can adjust volume with either remote. If you have linked a TV or cable remote , try turning up the vizio remote and then your cable or tv remote volume too. Maybe that will wake the volume back up. Hope this helps.
Last edited by Shockwave199; 10-17-2014 at 11:33 AM.
I have this connected to my Vizio 4K via ARC. Works perfect. Switch to Netflix mode and it continues to work perfect. Switch back to TV mode and no sound! Keeps on doing this..
I have to rediscover device etc.. Getting annoying
Ideally I'd like to just have the soundbar always on so it's ready to go as soon as I turn the TV on. I've tried it with Eco Power on and off, doesn't seem to make a difference, the sound bar still shuts itself off after 15 minutes or so of no signal. Maybe it's just not possible, but I figured I'd ask.
Thanks for all the information. In your opinion, then, will I have a hard time getting an SVS SB12Plus 12-inch sub to pair well with the S5430? The SVS does allow me to set the crossover as high as 120hz. I've had the SVS sitting around unused for a while and assumed I would get better sound pairing it with a budget soundbar rather than buying a budget soundbar that comes with a wireless sub. I settled on the S5430 because of the combination of price, good reviews and the sub out.
Just thought I'd share my initial impressions and, hopefully, get a little input, too.
I ended up buying the Vizio s5430 for two reasons: 1. The subwoofer output; 2. Price ($200 new). Subwoofer output was important because I have an SVS sub (SB12-Plus) that I do not want to part with. But I wanted to cut down on the amount of space that AV equipment was taking up in my family room and, also, I was getting tired of dealing with the AVR/Speaker/Sub setup.
Because my TV is nine years old (Sony KDS XBR1 60") and does not have HDMI ARC, I began setup by running everything through the TV via HDMI in and optical audio out. But when I realized that my TV wouldn't pass audio from HDMI out through optical audio, I was left with no choice but to use HDMI in/RCA out to the soundbar for the Roku 3 while running cable video into the TV with component cable and then directly from the cable box to the soundbar via the optical cable.
Before hooking up the sub, I wanted to see how the soundbar sounded on its own. First and brief impression (from a few hours of viewing) is that the 5430 is a mild upgrade in sound over the Sony KDS XBR, a TV with pretty good audio. Sound was deeper and punchier overall, although I'm not sure it was enough of an improvement to warrant a $200 purchase (definitely not $300). But all TVs are different.
The real impact came when I hooked up the sub (and basically shook the house; the SVS is not a huge sub but it can pack some power). Setup was as follows:
1. Per the Vizio instruction manual, I set the soundbar's bass at halfway (although I'm wondering now if I should turn it all the way down; any opinions?).
2. I disabled the sub's crossover management and, as suggested by the SVS manual, allowed the soundbar to manage bass. FYI, the sub allows me to manually set the crossover as high as 120 (and I'm also wondering if I should have done this instead; I was assuming that when the manual refers to the AVR's internal crossover, I can substitute "sound bar" for "AVR.")
3. I turned down the soundbar's subwoofer level to the lowest setting then set the sub's gain/volume and phase. But now, looking at the sub's manual again, it calls for setting the AVR's subwoofer level at 1/3rd when calibration begins and ot setting the level lower than the first 1/4 of its range. I had set the soundbar's sub level low because the SVS manual recommends turning down the AVR's subwoofer output before lowering the sub's gain. I guess I need to play with this a little more. Any opinions?
Anyway, impressions of the soundbar/sub combination:
1. Blows away the sound in soundbar-only mode, and I'm not just talking about the bass. I'm talking about the overall richness and depth of audio and even clarity of spoken word.
2. The soundbar and sub integrate very nicely. Maybe I got lucky with sub placement (I have it in a corner). My wife and I never get the impression that the soundbar and sub are two separate things.
3. That being said–and I could be imagining this since I know that the sub is of significantly higher quality than the soundbar–the audio quality seems to be much better in the lower ranges than in the higher ranges. My wife, however, does not hear it this way.
4. Doors (and other objects) in what we're watching sound louder than natural when they're closing and slamming. Is this a phase issue? Or is it just normal with subs?
Basically, I got what I paid for: a soundbar that enables me to use my sub. Having used the Vizio/sub combo for a few days, I've already been tempted to buy a more-expensive soundbar, like the Outlaw Audio or MartinLogan, so the top end will match the low end in quality, but I'm limited by my TV and its stand (unless I place the soundbar on the floor, I don't have room on the stand's uppermost shelf for a soundbar that's higher than five inches, and I don't think placing the soundbar on the floor is a good idea).
I'll report back as I continue to dial in the sub (and hopefully get it just right). And if anyone has any input on what I've discussed, especially tinkering with the sub, I'm all ears. Oh, one thing I don't like: the Vizio's remote: It works fine, but the LED is dim and not easy to read in low light, especially with my 54-year-old eyes.
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