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Sony HT-ST5000 Dolby Atmos Soundbar Demo at CES 2017

Sony introduced a Dolby Atmos 7.1.2 soundbar at CES 2017 and I had a chance to demo it. I was surprised at how effective the virtual surround was at rendering a true 3D immersive soundfield. Read the full post by clicking the link: https://www.avsforum.com/sony-ht-sr50...o-at-ces-2017/
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This looks to be a great way for entery level consumers as well as pros to upgrade to Atmos.

My noobish question is will this replace one's existing subwoofer for a 7.1.2 system. I am asking bc Ive been meaning to replace my current underwhelming sub. Thanks!
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This looks to be a great way for entery level consumers as well as pros to upgrade to Atmos.

My noobish question is will this replace one's existing subwoofer for a 7.1.2 system. I am asking bc Ive been meaning to replace my current underwhelming sub. Thanks!
I can't judge what the sub can do, they did not turn it up enough to test its limits
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Mark, I am sure it is hard to tell at CES but can you give a feeling on how this compares to the 2016 samsung offerings (hwk-850/950)? I like how Sony supports more formats so if it is close to Samsung in performance and price doesn't differ much it is something I'll have to look at to purchase.
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Mark on a side note, did you happen to see the new Sony STR-DN1080? Sony is finally adding Atmos to their regular consumer AVRs (besides the ES line)!
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Mark on a side note, did you happen to see the new Sony STR-DN1080? Sony is finally adding Atmos to their regular consumer AVRs (besides the ES line)!
I'm interested in this one, does is capable of Atmos 7.2.2 or only 5.2.2? Thank you
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The Sony rep at Best Buy today said that wireless Atmos-enabled rear speakers will be available with the HT 5000 sometime after its release. I hope that's true... with DTS compatibility I won't even look at the Samsung.
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If true great but I highly doubt it.

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I won't even look at the Samsung.
Same here. I just returned my K950 as I had no idea it didn't support DTS-MA. I couldn't believe it.

Now the only hard part is waiting for the ST5000 to come out :-(

Hopefully it supports DTS:X at launch or shortly thereafter via firmware update.

*Fingers crossed*
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Can't wait for this to come out...
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Same here. I just returned my K950 as I had no idea it didn't support DTS-MA. I couldn't believe it.

Now the only hard part is waiting for the ST5000 to come out :-(

Hopefully it supports DTS:X at launch or shortly thereafter via firmware update.

*Fingers crossed*
And DTS-HD MA too right? Because as of right now, according to the manual, it doesn't support any DTS format.

I will seriously consider getting this speaker bar. But only if it supports the two main object oriented audio formats and all the formats my low end, five year old Sony speaker bar supports. Which is the advanced and legacy audio formats from DTS and DD.

Otherwise it becomes rather useless.

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Odd... the manual specifically states: "The system does not support DTS and DSD."

And according to the manual - the subwoofer is 200 Watts (at 2 ohms?) and has a 7" driver and an 8" x 12" passive radiator.

From everything we have been hearing from Sony reps, etc, - DTS:X is supposed to be added later... but... who knows.

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There are two threads discussing the same exact product and topics. Anyway to combine these mods? The other thread was discussing the DTS question just the other day.


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I have found 2 links where they speak about a DTS firmware update which should occurs before the end of the year.

In one of the two links below they said that the soundbar is not HDR ready and need also a firmware update which will bring also Dolby Vision.

http://postperspective.com/this-audi...rs-at-ces2017/

"It’s not DTS:X-capable yet, but Sony said that will happen by the end of the year"

"It will be Dolby Vision/HDR-capable via a future firmware upgrade"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...d-to-know/amp/

"A DTS:X update will be added later this year"
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I have found 2 links where they speak about a DTS firmware update which should occurs before the end of the year.

In one of the two links below they said that the soundbar is not HDR ready and need also a firmware update which will bring also Dolby Vision.

http://postperspective.com/this-audi...rs-at-ces2017/

"It’s not DTS:X-capable yet, but Sony said that will happen by the end of the year"

"It will be Dolby Vision/HDR-capable via a future firmware upgrade"

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...d-to-know/amp/

"A DTS:X update will be added later this year"
I'll believe it when I see it. Until then I'll hold off. And if Yamaha comes out with a new version, they might get my money as long as I can use my SVS subwoofer with it.

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I'll believe it when I see it. Until then I'll hold off. And if Yamaha comes out with a new version, they might get my money as long as I can use my SVS subwoofer with it.


Yep. We've all ready plenty of articles from Bloggers promulgating this and that, regurgitating what a 23 year old Sales Rep told them who was simply busy pushing a product that they really don't know much about.


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I might consider the Pioneer and Onkyo options too. Being able to use my own sub would be a big advantage for me. Since it would lower my cost and also give me superb bass with my SVS subwoofer.

I wish the Sony ST5000 was already out with reviews. I guess i'll need to make a decision in the next few months.

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I might consider the Pioneer and Onkyo options too. Being able to use my own sub would be a big advantage for me. Since it would lower my cost and also give me superb bass with my SVS subwoofer.



I wish the Sony ST5000 was already out with reviews. I guess i'll need to make a decision in the next few months.


Hmmm. I'm liking the Onkyo within 4 HDMI inputs, Chromecast, and Apple Play. Too bad it's just 3.1.2......but.....it's still a Soundbar. Ha. I'm also waiting for Yamaha to drop a new bar too. Their big boy does Atmos but no 4KHDR passthrough while the 2700 does passthrough but no Atmos/DTS:X. I'm sure they are going to plug that hole at some point soon.


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Yep. We've all ready plenty of articles from Bloggers promulgating this and that, regurgitating what a 23 year old Sales Rep told them who was simply busy pushing a product that they really don't know much about.

You have no idea who spoke to who, nor what age they were, nor that they were a sales rep, etc...

Caleb, from Digital Trends, is not going to put something out there after just being told by some "23 year old Sales Rep".

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Nope. I sure don't. It was a generic statement. Not specific to anyone. More or less just a less boring way to say I agree with aaronwt's statement of "I'll believe it when I see it. However, I am correct in that it does happen all the time with bloggers who could care less about accuracy...causing people to spread misinformation. No disrespect to "Caleb". I don't know him from Adam.


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I might consider the Pioneer and Onkyo options too. Being able to use my own sub would be a big advantage for me. Since it would lower my cost and also give me superb bass with my SVS subwoofer.

I wish the Sony ST5000 was already out with reviews. I guess i'll need to make a decision in the next few months.
You won't safe money on the Pioneer, the wireless subwoofer is always included. The Onkyo has no sub out.
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You won't safe money on the Pioneer, the wireless subwoofer is always included. The Onkyo has no sub out.
Yes. i noticed that with the Onkyo when I checked earlier. The Pioneer still includes the wireless sub, but the retail price is only $1k.

Right now I am considering the Pioneer and the Sony HT-ST5000.
I would like to be able to use my own sub, but I have also been very pleased with the Sony speaker Bars I've owned over the last nine years. And it sounds like the ST5000 would be a nice improvement over my Sony HT-NT3. But the HT-ST5000 is priced very high.

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The Sony rep at Best Buy today said that wireless Atmos-enabled rear speakers will be available with the HT 5000 sometime after its release. I hope that's true... with DTS compatibility I won't even look at the Samsung.
This is very interesting information.

If it comes to be.....wow!

I was messing around with my 4.1 soundbar (got it free) which is only 400w and it was impressive. A 7.1.2 atmos soundbar at 800w promises to be full nerdgasm.
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I have sent an email to Caleb Denison asking him if he is able to give me more information about the DTS X upgrade.

I asked him if he remembers who told him that arguing that people like us were very interested by this soundbar at the condition that it also support DTS.

Maybe he won't answer or won't remember but at least we have nothing to loose.
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Any Updates to this thread?

Has there been a release of rear wireless surrounds?

Has DTS X been updated via firmware yet?

I am holding off till i know for sure, but this seems to be a great sound bar if those things were added since last post.

Thanks!

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