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Well not december, jan 15th or mid january, its still January! Could be worse. I hope 7.2 is soon to follow. Hoping its a matter of writing little code and is really more like commenting out anything referring to the extra two speakers from the 9.2, and a little rerouting of sounds and volumes and EQs to have 7.2 optimization. AKA hoping its as easy as that... guessing for some reasom probably.not.

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I also have the harmony hub and remote and highly recommend with the naka if you have a few devices connected to it.
The things you lose are voice control to things like Android tv or fire TV.
Another thing I think could be better is to add buttons unrelated to activities or to have activities that can run along with something else, then it could work with an air conditioning as well.

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I’m still tweaking, and will work on it more post latest firmware, but have had luck running an Alexa Dot and using some voice commands in combination with harmony one + hub.

I say “Alexa, play music” the hub turns on the bar, selects appropriate input (dot connects via aux), and pulls up my Amazon Music and then can adjust volume and music via the dot.

I assume I can work inputs and tv once I sit down to figure it out.

Any other harmony/naka bar tips would be appreciated.
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Thank you guys so much!! Will grab the harmony elite!! Appreciate it!
Also, if you don't want to spend a ton, you don't need the elite necessarily.

The lower end/cheaper models like the 650 or 655 work just as well if you don't need the hub.
Thank you, looking at the 655 however getting confused with this being an "ir" remote? Does that mean I will have issues using it to control the b7a because the soundbar sits in front of the TV ans the remote will not direct line of site to it? Seems from reading about it and reviews it will do everything that I will need it to but a bit worried that I will have to stand up and get "above" the sound bar to turn the TV on/off. Thanks for all the help guys!

One more question, I noticed when I plugged fire 4k stick into the bar directly it would not display Dolby vision only hdr.... Is the update solving this issue where the bar will read Dolby vision and transfer to the TV as well?

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Thank you, looking at the 655 however getting confused with this being an "ir" remote? Does that mean I will have issues using it to control the b7a because the soundbar sits in front of the TV ans the remote will not direct line of site to it? Seems from reading about it and reviews it will do everything that I will need it to but a bit worried that I will have to stand up and get "above" the sound bar to turn the TV on/off. Thanks for all the help guys!

One more question, I noticed when I plugged fire 4k stick into the bar directly it would not display Dolby vision only hdr.... Is the update solving this issue where the bar will read Dolby vision and transfer to the TV as well?
It is a standard IR remote like most remotes. You do have to point in the direction of the device you are tryin to control and it generally will need line of site. That being said, I suppose for your TV it would depend on how blocked the its IR receiver really is. It may look blocked but may be able to receive signals from the remote just fine. The IR signals tend to bounce off of walls and objects so you never know.

Not sure that it would be any different even if you bought the Elite version. For your tv (since it is not in a cabinet, getting signals from the hub) would also have to be controlled with IR from the Elite. Although if it didn't work and you had the elite, you could use a ir extender from the hub to put the signal to the tv directly.
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I upgraded to the 3.1 firmware and my Xbox one x which is directly connected to the soundbar outputs no sound when Dolby Atmos is selected. If I change it to output Dolby or DTS the sound works. Anyone have any ideas?
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Yes to use the app on the TV you need to use ARC.

You wont get ATMOS via ARC since they arent supporting DD+ so if you want ATMOS you'll need to use an external player that supports it and use one of the HDMI inputs of the sound bar.
Which streaming device does everyone here recommend? I require a Netflix implementation that allows to me enjoy DV and atmos content, but support for other services with HDR/DV and atmos is optional though I would prefer a device with the broadest support.
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I upgraded to the 3.1 firmware and my Xbox one x which is directly connected to the soundbar outputs no sound when Dolby Atmos is selected. If I change it to output Dolby or DTS the sound works. Anyone have any ideas?
Try switching inputs (to an unused one is fine, the only thing I have connected is the X) then back. This works for me every time. I didn't have this issue on 3.0 so I'm probably going back to it.

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I upgraded to the 3.1 firmware and my Xbox one x which is directly connected to the soundbar outputs no sound when Dolby Atmos is selected. If I change it to output Dolby or DTS the sound works. Anyone have any ideas?
Try switching inputs (to an unused one is fine, the only thing I have connected is the X) then back. This works for me every time. I didn't have this issue on 3.0 so I'm probably going back to it.

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Thanks for the suggestion however I just tried it and that doesn’t fix mine. When I switch back to the Xbox the soundbar displays PCM-MC and has no sound at all.
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Well not december, jan 15th or mid january, its still January! Could be worse. I hope 7.2 is soon to follow. Hoping its a matter of writing little code and is really more like commenting out anything referring to the extra two speakers from the 9.2, and a little rerouting of sounds and volumes and EQs to have 7.2 optimization. AKA hoping its as easy as that... guessing for some reasom probably.not.

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Coding should be easy but Dolby certification will take a while.
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How are people getting version 3.1.?

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Love mine. Bass is back to before and the surrounds are much louder. Kudos to Nakamichi for listening to user feedback.
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I just upgraded to 3.1 from 1.0c and now, regarding the pure direct button on the remote, I don’t know what to use for pcm content, should I put it on native, Dolby surround, or Dolby upmix? It used to be I would leave it on neural x all the time but now it has changed and nothing I use sounds as good as it did before I updated.

I have yet to try any Atmos content, but when I do would it be the same setting as above?
Use Dolby Surround. Dolby seems to be far superior playing back PCM vs DTS Neural X. I will say PCM sounds as good as DD+ on my system.
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Amazon's reviews for Nakamichi get a D ranking from fakespot.com, totally fake reviews. Sony's top end soundbar also has an F rating. Hard to tell what atmos soundbar to get because of this.

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Which streaming device does everyone here recommend? I require a Netflix implementation that allows to me enjoy DV and atmos content, but support for other services with HDR/DV and atmos is optional though I would prefer a device with the broadest support.
If you need ATMOS with Netflix then your choices are limited. According to their website, these are the only devices that can stream Netflix with Atmos and 2 of them are TVs which wont work:

Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later)
LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 models)
Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X

Im definitely disappointed they decided to not support Atmos over ARC. Knowing the bar was getting ATMOS was a big selling point for me but i guess i shouldnt have assumed they would support it via DD+. i will say the bar does a great job with the 5.1 sound i get from netflix instead. As someone else posted earlier in the thread, watch Daredevil season 1 episode 5 from 13:40 for 3 minutes or so. The way the sound spins around the room from speaker to speaker when the guy is singing is really cool.
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Which streaming device does everyone here recommend? I require a Netflix implementation that allows to me enjoy DV and atmos content, but support for other services with HDR/DV and atmos is optional though I would prefer a device with the broadest support.
If you need ATMOS with Netflix then your choices are limited. According to their website, these are the only devices that can stream Netflix with Atmos and 2 of them are TVs which wont work:

Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later)
LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 models)
Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X

Im definitely disappointed they decided to not support Atmos over ARC. Knowing the bar was getting ATMOS was a big selling point for me but i guess i shouldnt have assumed they would support it via DD+. i will say the bar does a great job with the 5.1 sound i get from netflix instead. As someone else posted earlier in the thread, watch Daredevil season 1 episode 5 from 13:40 for 3 minutes or so. The way the sound spins around the room from speaker to speaker when the guy is singing is really cool.
So I have a fire stick 4k which I understand does not support atmos on Netflix but does support dolby vision on Netflix.... However when I plug the stick into the 7.2 it only reads hdr... Will the update recognize Dolby vision?

And if I can't play atmos through the Netflix app on fire stick, which setting on the soundbar will sound the best? Dolby surround from what I'm reading?? Can I just leave "Dolby surround" on for all sources like I currently leave nueral x on right now prior to the new firmware?
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Coding should be easy but Dolby certification will take a while.
So they seriously can't just get Adobe certification for the whole line? They have to go model by model? Couldn't they have gotten certification for all models simultaneously or do they have to prove the firmware works first?

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Amazon's reviews for Nakamichi get a D ranking from fakespot.com, totally fake reviews. Sony's top end soundbar also has an F rating. Hard to tell what atmos soundbar to get because of this.
While I don't put a lot of faith in fakespot.com, I would suggest perusing the 97 pages of comments on this forum. The vast majority of us posting are actual owners. I would also advise you to look at all reviews on Amazon for the various Naka models, and then sort by "Verified Purchase" which indicates the reviewer actually bought the system.

I've had the 7.1 Pro DTS:X for over a year now. Best sound bar I've ever heard. From my standpoint, the 4 HDMI inputs (all supporting 4K UHD pass-through, High Dynamic Range (HDR), HDCP 2.2, and soon to support Dolby Vision passthrough and Dolby Atmos) are the crucial difference between this and other soundbars. Most Vizio, Sony, LG, Samsung, etc soundbars have one HDMI, maybe 2, so if you have multiple input devices you're forced to use optical for at least one of them.

I've been more than pleased, looking forward to getting the update to DV and Atmos later this Spring. I've also been fairly amazed with Naka's customer service. They generally respond to emails within hours with specific feedback based on my set-up.

But I'm just one person.....
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As someone else posted earlier in the thread, watch Daredevil season 1 episode 5 from 13:40 for 3 minutes or so. The way the sound spins around the room from speaker to speaker when the guy is singing is really cool.[/QUOTE]




Try Ready Player One from 11:27 to 17:00 the race is so cool.
And Hacksaw Ridge from 1:11:01 to 1:24:00 for a battle scene that puts you right in the middle of it.
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Amazon's reviews for Nakamichi get a D ranking from fakespot.com, totally fake reviews. Sony's top end soundbar also has an F rating. Hard to tell what atmos soundbar to get because of this.
I am a proud owner of a 9.2. The naka soundbars been around for over 14 months, if the reviews are fake, the recent reviews should be all low ratings but they are mostly 4s and 5s. Even the critical reviewers are mostly commenting on how good it sounds.
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From my standpoint, the 4 HDMI inputs (all supporting 4K UHD pass-through, High Dynamic Range (HDR), HDCP 2.2, and soon to support Dolby Vision passthrough and Dolby Atmos) are the crucial difference between this and other soundbars. Most Vizio, Sony, LG, Samsung, etc soundbars have one HDMI, maybe 2, so if you have multiple input devices you're forced to use optical for at least one of them.
This is the biggie. And it's huge. If you're buying a soundbar, you're making compromises for simplicity's sake. With this bar, you can handle all your source switching for the average living room. Also it supports optical and digital coax, plus mini-stereo jacks, blue-tooth, and who knows what USB can do besides firmware?

I have a dedicated home theater that a soundbar won't compete with but this thing blows away the first DD 5.1 setup I had 20 years ago.

Also the support they provide is unrivaled and they clearly listen to customer feedback when tweaking features, I don't always agree with the decisions (to revert to the old loudness curve, for one); but I have to give a huge thumbs up to any company that does this, and I was clearly in the minority on that opinion.

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I am planning to buy an oled TV, and I was wondering what’s people experience with their oled tv and the naka 9.2 bar. I am looking into the LG C8/E8 and the Sony A9F. I just want to know if anyone is having any issues with these models and the naka bar. Thanks in advance.


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This is the biggie. And it's huge. If you're buying a soundbar, you're making compromises for simplicity's sake. With this bar, you can handle all your source switching for the average living room. Also it supports optical and digital coax, plus mini-stereo jacks, blue-tooth, and who knows what USB can do besides firmware?

I have a dedicated home theater that a soundbar won't compete with but this thing blows away the first DD 5.1 setup I had 20 years ago.

Also the support they provide is unrivaled and they clearly listen to customer feedback when tweaking features, I don't always agree with the decisions (to revert to the old loudness curve, for one); but I have to give a huge thumbs up to any company that does this, and I was clearly in the minority on that opinion.
I agree completely buddy and I appreciate your candor. Great company, great product and great forum
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Which streaming device does everyone here recommend? I require a Netflix implementation that allows to me enjoy DV and atmos content, but support for other services with HDR/DV and atmos is optional though I would prefer a device with the broadest support.
If you have to have Dolby Vision and Atmos, I think the only option is Apple TV. But I would otherwise recommend the Shield.

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I found another problem that is pretty big.  I have an LG UBK90 4k bluray player.  When playing movies in Atmos the sound just stops.  The only way to get sound back is to cycle to a different input on Nakamichi or stop and start the movie and not even stopping and starting the movie works all the time. I watched Logan 4k with Atmos and audio has stopped 15x which is pretty terrible.

I did not experience this issue with FW30V3 but am seeing it with FW31. LG player is hooked up to HDMI3 on Nakamichi and then goes out to HDMI2 on LG tv.  I do not loose video at all. I really appreciate what Nakamichi is doing but some of these really basic things should work.

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Try Ready Player One from 11:27 to 17:00 the race is so cool.
And Hacksaw Ridge from 1:11:01 to 1:24:00 for a battle scene that puts you right in the middle of it.
Thanks for the tip. What sources did you use for those? Dont see them on Neftflix.

Also check out the Dolby Atmos Trailer Amaze. You can download it on dolby's website and play it with Plex. It sounds incredible on this sound bar.
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Pretty sure they have the Dolby certification. It’s just ‘retro-fitting’ the software to 7.2.


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I agree. I just hope that they have a few people working in tandem on the 7.2 while the 9.2 gets all the attention because mostly to continue their work pretty much off the same newest 9.2 firmware instead of the first one 9.2 beta and then 7.2 going their own way, or worse, a team witing the 7.2 firmware from scratch (doubtful, but the same feature calls can be all there with code being written differently by others for better or worse. Its a no brainer not to do this but ive seen it far too often...)

If the 7.2 code keeps going along side each new 9.2 firmware I guess retroactive coding should be second nature by now and the easiest part.

Only changes for the sound model with two less speakers and driver wattage differences should be the only thing that make 7.2 a couple of quick firmwares at the beginning after 9.2 is truly finalized which I think not yet but soon. Maybe one more even though the 9.2 firmware is up... maybe one last one, maybe working on the known issues while finishing 7.2 would be smart. Two birds one stone.

If 7.2 were given the original 9.2 firmware have been working off of that and not moving along as 9.2 changes have been made or if they havent started 7.2, thats a mess.

But I think they are doing a decent job though. Just crossing my best practices fingers.

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Thanks for the tip. What sources did you use for those? Dont see them on Neftflix.

Also check out the Dolby Atmos Trailer Amaze. You can download it on dolby's website and play it with Plex. It sounds incredible on this sound bar.

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After loading the new 3.1 firmware, I decided to play around with the settings and tweak my sound settings and would recommend your try this if you have the 9.2 Sound Bar. It has provided me with more overhead sound stage from the sound bar and better noticeable front sound separation coming from the sound bar. I use to run the SS setting at 8 and the SB setting at 10. While this did provide extra load audio for those channels, with the new firmware it drowned out audio coming from the sound bar itself. So now my SS setting is 2 and the SB setting is also 2. Audio from the center channel and front surround for me just popped and I heard things I was missing before. Your mileage may vary.



Below are all my settings:


DSP = OFF
VOL= 40
SSE = 2
B = 7
CR = 6
TR = 8
SS = 2
SB = 2
R= 0
L = 0
STEREO = OFF
CROSS = 180
DRC = OFF
CEC = OFF
DIA = +3
EC0 = OFF
ROOM SIZE = MED

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All my video content is streamed through the Shield TV

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Some of my go to videos for testing Dolby are:
All Dolby Test Videos

Ready Player One
Hacksaw Ridge
Fantastic Beasts and where to find them
Mad Max Fury Road
The Avengers
Incredible 2
The Polar Express
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Amazon's reviews for Nakamichi get a D ranking from fakespot.com, totally fake reviews. Sony's top end soundbar also has an F rating. Hard to tell what atmos soundbar to get because of this.


I had left a 5 star review in amazon. I did purchase the 9.2 and genuinely believe it was good even prior to the update. Now everyone has their own expectations and considering the value I get out of this bar for the price paid , I believe it’s a great purchase.

In addition the support I get for the product is phenomenal


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I am planning to buy an oled TV, and I was wondering what’s people experience with their oled tv and the naka 9.2 bar. I am looking into the LG C8/E8 and the Sony A9F. I just want to know if anyone is having any issues with these models and the naka bar. Thanks in advance.


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Naka dont support DD+/ Atmos over Arc , so my Lg c8 just output Dolby Digital for tv apps.

Apart from this there’s nothing major that I have noticed


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