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Bose 700 Full System Vs Samsung HW-N950? Which one to get?

What’s up everyone, so I just bought the Bose 700 full system from Best Buy and I love it. Until I found out about the Samsung 950. I compared the 850 with the Bose 700 at Best Buy and they both sound great with the Bose having the edge to Richness, fullness, And just an overall more pleasing sound.

However I really want the Atmos ability. Has anyone actually tested both of these out in your home and can shed some opinions on them both. Trying to decide if I should order the 950 as well and just compare them both in my home
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What’s up everyone, so I just bought the Bose 700 full system from Best Buy and I love it. Until I found out about the Samsung 950. I compared the 850 with the Bose 700 at Best Buy and they both sound great with the Bose having the edge to Richness, fullness, And just an overall more pleasing sound.

However I really want the Atmos ability. Has anyone actually tested both of these out in your home and can shed some opinions on them both. Trying to decide if I should order the 950 as well and just compare them both in my home
I've purchased both and returned the Samsung. I can comment on the audio quality of each. Samsung one, the Atmos effects are good (i have 9ft ceilings), tested it on John Wick. The soundstage feels higher than the Bose. But the Bose Bass 700 and rear speakers are much better than the samsung. Rears are clearer and more focused sounding and bass rattles my furniture. Samsung still has the annoying 5 minute auto-power down where the soundbar will shut off after 5 min of inactivity (paused movie, tv show, game) and you can't disable it. That was the dealbreaker for me and went with Bose in the end. Also, playing music on the Bose is superior than the Samsung. The Samsung shined through with Atmos effects but i think for regular 5.1 and audio, it sounded muddy and not as crisp.

For example, I will use the sledgehammer scene in John Wick where he's hitting the cement floor to get his weapons. On the Samsung, I felt the thumping sound higher up toward my head from where I was sitting- but you couldn't really feel the sub's low end. On the Bose, the sound wasn't as high up, it felt lower as the Bose sub is more powerful with 10" driver and could feel my furniture shaking a bit with each pound of the hammer. Subtle differences but I preferred the Bose more. Another example is the rain scene in John Wick where he's talking with his friend in the beginning and then the rain scene at the end where he's fighting that Russian dude- the sound felt a bit higher on the Samsung like there was a mist around you. However, the Bose was no slouch either, the rears sounded clearer on the Bose for the rain scene as you still get a good effect, just not as "enveloping" as the Samsung. Another way to describe it is that the Samsung with Atmos effects sound more in your face, like the sound is being bounced toward your head in some scenes. It kinda felt unnatural tbh... also the rears on the Samsung are not as loud even when turned all the way up and when playing music through spotify, the rears sound kinda muddy.

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Another benefit with the Bose (I had the SoundTouch 300), if you are doing it for a lot of music, the wi-fi benefit of the Bose crushes the bluetooth on the Samsung. The Samsung is does do a great job in Atmos (where available). All around better sound quality is the Bose.

What kind of room are you putting this in? What's the size/layout?

Honestly if you want a comparison to the Bose, I'd look at Sonos (hope I don't get shot in here for saying that). That Sonos app is just... butter. It's amazing. If you are doing more than just movies and looking for an "entertainment space" I prefer Sonos over Bose.
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I will comment on my own post now that I have bought both and can make a comparison. Well, there is no comparison. The Bose 700 system just blows the Samsung HW-N950 out of the water.

First of all the Samsung gave me nothing but problems since day one. Constant audio going on and off, cutting in and out, slow and buggy UI. The thing just never worked correctly. Horrible "Smart-Things app". I tried to do the firmware update through the app, and honestly it made the whole system worse to the point where I couldn't even get it to play sound.

When the Samsung did work, the sound was simply OK, uninspiring, lifeless, harsh. The sub woofer sounded almost non-existent. I played with all the settings and tuning and it just sounded OK. 5 out of 10 sound.

The quality of the system seems fair enough. Sturdy and good looking, but compared to the Bose, it's not even in the same league.

The Bose hooked up to my TV (Vizio 2018 P-Series 75) without one problem. Turned it on, updated automatically, and just glorious sounds from then on. Easy to use app, smooth and simple. Rich, Lush, Smooth, DEEP BASS, from this system. No other soundbar besides the SONOS can compare.

In conclusion, Stay far, far away from the Samsung soundbars.

Funnily enough, I've returned both of these systems to go back to my traditional 5.1 Speaker/Receiver setup lol. It's just not worth the price for these soundbars IMO!
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Has anyone here used the Sony htst 5000 as a comparison to the Bose or Sonos?


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It comes down to what do you value more, sound quality or features?

Samsung offers more features, but since Bose is a company that specialisis in sound equipment, the Bose system will have much better sound quality

The same goes for the other brands as well

LG/Sony/Samsung/Panasonic etc will offer the most features, they have to because they know their sound quality is worse than a real audio company can produce, so they have to focus on delivering features as a selling point

Bose/Sonos/Paradigm/Yamaha/Dali/Q Acoustics/Klipsch/Goldenear etc will leverage what they are good at - excellent sound quality, they don't offer the features but they offer superb sound quality

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Well, I tested the sk10y, n850, and n950 before finally finding what I was looking for. I went with the bose soundbar 700, surrounds, and bass 500 and couldn't be happier. I haven't had any issues since setting up the bose and listening to everything from sports to movies. I think there is some more tweaking left but really that can only make things better. My experience with the sk10y was alright, minus the sub disconnecting (required unplugging and plugging back in), the atmos was disappointing. The n950 wasn't bad, but unless i was watching an atmos movie, it was very underwhelming. Only a few scenes I said to myself (thats cool), but overall, I was saying to myself "thats it?". That's not even mentioning the 5 min go to sleep issue or the fact that it did not play nice with my xbox one x, or the 2-3 times I had to unplug everything to get them to work again.

I ended up with the smaller sub because wife/kids, it does a pretty darn good job though for being so small.

I would like to thank my local best buy with putting up with me exchanging these so many times, the last time I had to acknowledge that if i tried to exchange again they might not allow it.
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Well, I tested the sk10y, n850, and n950 before finally finding what I was looking for. I went with the bose soundbar 700, surrounds, and bass 500 and couldn't be happier. I haven't had any issues since setting up the bose and listening to everything from sports to movies. I think there is some more tweaking left but really that can only make things better. My experience with the sk10y was alright, minus the sub disconnecting (required unplugging and plugging back in), the atmos was disappointing. The n950 wasn't bad, but unless i was watching an atmos movie, it was very underwhelming. Only a few scenes I said to myself (thats cool), but overall, I was saying to myself "thats it?". That's not even mentioning the 5 min go to sleep issue or the fact that it did not play nice with my xbox one x, or the 2-3 times I had to unplug everything to get them to work again.



I ended up with the smaller sub because wife/kids, it does a pretty darn good job though for being so small.



I would like to thank my local best buy with putting up with me exchanging these so many times, the last time I had to acknowledge that if i tried to exchange again they might not allow it.


Any lip sync issues or anything else with the Bose and Xbox one X?


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Any lip sync issues or anything else with the Bose and Xbox one X?


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No lip sync issues at all, to be fair, i didn't have that issue with the other soundbars too. I had the other three for about 9ish days each, wanted to give them a fair shot.
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No lip sync issues at all, to be fair, i didn't have that issue with the other soundbars too. I had the other three for about 9ish days each, wanted to give them a fair shot.
Good man, you can see by reading this forum that Sony, Samsung and LG are the most popular soundbars, but I'm not convinced that they are any better than Bose or Sonos and in fact I think their sound quality is actually worse
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Good man, you can see by reading this forum that Sony, Samsung and LG are the most popular soundbars, but I'm not convinced that they are any better than Bose or Sonos and in fact I think their sound quality is actually worse


I think it depends, I have a Sonos setup I enjoy but the lack of codec support is extremely frustrating and for other then my Apple TV I have to play it in 2 channel stereo as I get horrible lip sync issues otherwise. eARC can solve that If sonos releases a bar with that and once it's mainstream for TV'S other then a couple Sony's at the moment. 2019 I think.


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I'm a fan of Samsung, Tv's, Mobile phones, Cameras, microwave, refrigerator, everything is Samsung for me. This time I bought the HWN950, it sounds very high, good quality and nice look. Guys... don't loose your time and buy the Bose 700.
Huge difference. Better sound quality and a real surround ambience. (The surround speakers on the Samsung are ornaments) and completely different experience.
I'm very happy to change to Bose this time.
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I am loving my Bose Soundbar 700 full system. Got the Bass module and surrounds with Bose floor stands all together a week ago. Crisp dialogue, deep bass and sparkling treble. It is all a perfect fit for my small apartment. Using the system out of HDMI ARC on an LG 77" C8 OLED, with Verizon One TV FIOS, an Oppo 205 and my iMac mini. Ordered a 4 in 1 out hdmi switch for other components.

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Will connecting to a tv through earc provide any sound quality benefits as opposed to using optical? Sound quality is my only concern. I don’t plan on using any device control features. If sound quality is the only concern, am I better off going with optical and having an extra hdmi port free for my devices?
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Will connecting to a tv through earc provide any sound quality benefits as opposed to using optical? Sound quality is my only concern. I don’t plan on using any device control features. If sound quality is the only concern, am I better off going with optical and having an extra hdmi port free for my devices?

optical limits sound to mono, stereo and vanilla 5.1 audio.

see: https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...ed-works-care/

if not enough hdmi ports is a problem get a hdmi switcher like this AV Access one for 4k video and hdmi 2.0:

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Got mine yesterday and it works flawlessly even with my Harmony remote

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optical limits sound to mono, stereo and vanilla 5.1 audio.

see: https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-t...ed-works-care/

if not enough hdmi ports is a problem get a hdmi switcher like this AV Access one for 4k video and hdmi 2.0:

https://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Switch-S...-1-spons&psc=1

Got mine yesterday and it works flawlessly even with my Harmony remote




Isn’t something like the Bose soundbar “vanilla” 5.1?


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^^^ yes through toslink, not hdmi. But that is not a limitation of the Soundbar so much as of the connection type. Of more concern to me though is being able to still play my extensive collection of SACD and DVD-A discs which cannot be done through toslink.

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So Samsung had released Q90R which is successor of N-950, and few days back a fw update for it.
It seems very convenient to use it together with their TVs, but now this thread makes me think twice.
Is there anyone who owns HW-90R? I wonder if it became any better or Bose is still the way to go.
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I currently own the Bose 700 system (700 sub, 700 rears) and I'm generally very happy with it. I previously owned the K-series 950, which had all kinds of issues with the rear speakers. What i do remember was how great ATMOS sounded on it - at least the Dolby demos I ran. I'm intrigued by the Q90R and mostly because I'm constantly chasing the best theater experience, without having an AVR/speakers. Anyone here go from Bose back to Samsung? I've got an attractive offer in at Greentoe that expires in few days and my new Q80R TV arrives next week. Tempted to pair it with the Q90R. I wonder if chasing the ATMOS logo is worth all the trouble. I have no doubt the Bose can compete, if not outperform the Samsung on 5.1. I was sold when they played a Wonder Woman demo at the Bose store near me. Is the latest iteration of Samsung's ATMOS sound bar worth considering vs Bose?
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I have the Samsung Q90R TV and Q80R Soundbar (no rears) for a little over a week now. You'd think two products designed to work together would be ideal... Horrible lip-sync problem when cable box (DD 5.1) is connected to the tv via HDMI, and the TV and soundbar are connected via ARC. In fact, any external DD source connected to the TV this way can have the same problem. The workaround is to connect external devices to the soundbar (it has two HDMI inputs plus the ARC connection). That works ok, but connecting a source to the soundbar messes up the CEC control (soundbar turns off with tv, but doesn't turn on with it). Also, sometimes the soundbar will auto-switch inputs when you switch sources on the tv (as it should with CEC), but sometimes it doesn't, so you need to keep the soundbar remote nearby to manually switch inputs sometimes. Want to use a Harmony or other universal remote? Well, I was told on the Samsung forums that their soundbars don't have discreet input IR codes...so the best you can do is cycle through them.

The soundbar sounds pretty darn good (of course, no rears keeps everything up front), and the sub provides a good, tight bottom end...but it definitely won't shake the room.

I listened to the Sonos Playbar and Sub, and the Bose 700 + 700 Sub (as well as the discontinued Bose 300...at a very attractive price). They all sounded great in the store, but any soundbar that's limited to an optical input will only get PCM (stereo) from the Q90R TV (moderator at the Samsung Forum told me the tv doesn't pass DD through Optical. AND any ARC connection to the tv may be prone to the lip-sync problem. For me, the solution might be a soundbar with at least two HDMI inputs that has discreet IR codes for each input (SONY maybe?)...or perhaps an external HDMI switch box with an IR remote.

By the way, I have read a few reviews on the Bose 300 and 700 that were very mixed. One "non-sound" issue that came up in at least two different reviews was the glass top of the soundbar, which looks great, but is extremely reflective...extremely distracting when placed in front of the tv, and light d=from the screen reflects off the glass top. Have any Bose owners have this issue?
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One "non-sound" issue that came up in at least two different reviews was the glass top of the soundbar, which looks great, but is extremely reflective...extremely distracting when placed in front of the tv, and light d=from the screen reflects off the glass top. Have any Bose owners have this issue?
I have the Bose 700 soundbar and the glass top has never been an issue. I don't see reflections as a problem - it's something I haven't noticed, at all.
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