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Well it looks like another source for 3D blu rays may beginning to dry up on us and that is in the UK. There is no 3D blu-ray for Spiderman Far from Home being released there however there is one in Germany. Obviously this is still good thing but I don't like the signal its sending us.
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I'll just mention Alita Battle Angel was amazing in 3D. So much preferred over 4K.

3D may or may not be dying but I'll always be an avid fan
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I'll just mention Alita Battle Angel was amazing in 3D. So much preferred over 4K.

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I loved Alita in 3D in the Dolby theater. It was the best theatrical 3D presentation I have ever seen.
But at home I preferred the UHD BD/DV presentation over the 3D BD presentation..

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I loved Alita in 3D in the Dolby theater. It was the best theatrical 3D presentation I have ever seen.

But at home I preferred the UHD BD/DV presentation over the 3D BD presentation..
I guess it depends on your preference and display.

At 160" active 3D looked a lot better than UHD in total darkness at my house. The depth is just unmatched
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I'll just mention Alita Battle Angel was amazing in 3D. So much preferred over 4K.

3D may or may not be dying but I'll always be an avid fan
If 3D is dying it sure is a sloooooow death! This thread was started in 2013. Will we still be posting here in 2023? I suspect we will.
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If 3D dies, that will be my last day watching a movie...no wayyyy....
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The girls might not be so pretty (according to today's standards), but one thing's for sure, 3-D isn't dead (yet). The 3-D Nudie-Cuties Collection restored by the kind folks over at 3-D Film Archive has dropped in pre-order price to a mere $22.99.
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Kino does it again. Here comes another 3-D Blu-ray release and this one is said to have jaw dropping stereo imagery in the second half of the film. I feel sorry for the haters and justifiers stuck with new panels that will never have the opportunity to experience this movie the way the director intended.

Long Day's Journey Into Night

Kino Lorber have detailed their upcoming 3D Blu-ray release of Gan Bi's film Long Day's Journey Into Night 3D(2018), starring Jue Huang, Wei Tang, Sylvia Chang, Yongzhong Chen, and Meihuizi Zeng. The release will be available for purchase on November 26.

Synopsis: Bi Gan follows up his knockout debut, Kaili Blues, with this noir-tinged stunner about a lost soul (Jue Huang) on a quest to find a missing woman from his past (Wei Tang, Lust, Caution). Following leads across Guizhou province, he crosses paths with a series of colorful characters, among them a prickly hairdresser played by Taiwanese superstar Sylvia Chang. When the search leads him to a dingy movie theater, the film launches into an hour-long, gravity-defying 3D sequence shot that plunges its protagonist—and us—into a labyrinthine cityscape. China's biggest arthouse hit of all time, the film took in more than $40 million dollars in its opening weekend at the domestic box office.

Special Features:
Interview with director Bi Gan
Interview with star Huang Jue
Making-of documentary
Booklet interview with Bi Gan by writer Aaron Stewart-Ahn
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"About That Insane, Hour-Long, Single-Take, 3D Sequence in 'Long Day's Journey Into Night'"

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3D will die for me if I am blind in one eye.

While 3D on a flat screen may be hard to purchase, the truth is that 3D has evolved and the new way to watch 3D movies or any other genre in 3D is in a Virtual Reality experience. I still love my home theater experience and we watched Avengers: Endgame yesterday in 3D, but I now spend 10 times the time viewing 3D content in my Oculus Quest. It is even more real than 3D on the flat screen.
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3D will die for me if I am blind in one eye.
There's always hope.

Researchers: We can watch 3-D with only one eye

3D vision breakthrough
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It is also possible to create 3D images with one camera too. (not using editing software ). the technique uses a panning left to right while capturing a series of pictures, then alternate every other image shot to left and right eye in a side by side 3D construct. I first used this with a Sony digital camera with the SBS processing built in, and later successfully did the same with video using a djiMavic drone camera and splitting the video into sequential frames and placing every other frame alternating left and right. The drone was used to fly a left to right path maintaining distance and altitude of the scene. I shot it at 60 fps which when split to 3D SBS resulted in 30 fps video.

All these unique single eye experiments work but they are not adaptable to the general market so I don't see commercial value here.
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I once worked with a person who was blind in one eye and could see in 3D, but he had to constantly move his head left and right to get the jiggle between two perspectives. Just to test this out at the time, we had him judge distance between objects, and he was spot on. He said he could see space between objects. The brain is quite remarkable.

As for the sequential 3D method. I used that in pics I took in Africa. The Panasonic z100 has a slow 4k shutter mode to take a series of photos as if you are shooting a movie, but each image is a quick shutter to avoid blur. I took pics out the window as we were moving through local towns, then in post editing selected consecutive frames and aligned them in StereoPhotoMaker software. Worked perfectly, but sometimes objects would move slightly between frames. I never thought of creating a movie sequence doing this. I will have to try that--thanks, Don.

As for movies, even with some 3D movies still being shown, they are only shown for a week around here, then only in 2D after that. All IMAX is now in 2D, but I did manage to see Endgame in IMAX 3D here several months ago, but have to say, there were very few people in the theater, and that was sad because there are limited theater rooms in a multiplex, and they can't afford to have one of the theater rooms barely breaking even as they have to pay someone to run that room regardless of the audience. When they showed the 3D conversion of the original Jurassic Park several years ago, there were only 3 people in the IMAX room watching at that time.
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The end of IMAX 3D is unfortunate. There's a number of productions that haven't been released onto Blu ray 3D, only UHD/Blu ray. The directors go to the trouble of shooting with the big 3D camera but then no home release for it. Shout Factory handled the last half dozen or so IMAX releases in 3D but they dropped 3D, probably a decision by IMAX to save cost. To someone over there in charge, "We want these on Blu ray 3D!"

I don't really go to theater any more. But last I checked, the 3D theaters they run about 2 weeks and cycle in the new 3D movie. The theater rooms are much smaller for 3D, about 25 seats. I wanted to go for Endgame and Mission Impossible but never got around to it. And then there's the possibility that the movie might never make it to Blu ray 3D. I don't want to go see it then find out I'll never see it again in 3D.
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I haven't been to a AMC or Regal in years. I just got disgusted at the other people so I like that a theater has few people in it. For IMAX 3D we go to The World Golf Village IMAX and it is really big. I sit way in the back so I won't get neck strain. They still show 3D but I only go there to see StarWars in 3D. About the only series I am hooked enough on to want to see it in the theater, otherwise I wait until it is out for home viewing.

Bob the trick to getting good 3D with the pan technique is the speed of the pan. This sets the interaxial distance between frames so you will need to do a little math to get it right for 65mm IOD. In addition the speed can't vary. The dji Mavic Pro drone is capable of maintaining speed and distance so it was much better than me walking with the camera. I think a dolly would work pretty good too. While this was a fun experiment, I never used it in any of my projects as just using a 3D camera was much easier. However, I did one documentary in 3D up on YT where I used the technique with my Sony NEX cameras for a 3D panorama shot and it added some nice production value that none of my 3D cameras could do. Not only 3D but cinemascope wide angle as well. The Sony can only do this in stills, not video.

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3D will die for me if I am blind in one eye.

While 3D on a flat screen may be hard to purchase, the truth is that 3D has evolved and the new way to watch 3D movies or any other genre in 3D is in a Virtual Reality experience. I still love my home theater experience and we watched Avengers: Endgame yesterday in 3D, but I now spend 10 times the time viewing 3D content in my Oculus Quest. It is even more real than 3D on the flat screen.
I personally enjoy my 3d on a projector over VR at the moment. I have a Vive, Odyssey and Pimax 5k. Pimax 5k gets the closest to the at home pj experience, but still a ways to go to beat it. VR is definitely one of the best ways to experience 3d though. I can even watch a 3d movie in CT with my mom and sister down in FL! Now THAT certainly earns VR some points

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Yes, the virtual home theater apps are nice for creating the feeling of being in a big IMAX theater. I have been following the PiMAX HMD's but decided to go the wireless route for my second HMD. I have a Rift for the computer that I mainly need for editing VR projects in adobe Premiere Pro. It has the Oculus drivers built in which is nice. It also has drivers for Vive but the Vive isn't quite as good as the image quality of the Rift. I tried them both and finally decided which to keep. I also have a Oculus Go but mostly for visitors when they come here. The Go is easier to control and navigate for a new person to the HMD.

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They're insanely expensive, but I see it on the bright side. Sony is once again producing a 3D TV.

Sony Crystal LED systems
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They're insanely expensive, but I see it on the bright side. Sony is once again producing a 3D TV.

Sony Crystal LED systems
Bet we see this on the newest cruise ships coming out.

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They're insanely expensive, but I see it on the bright side. Sony is once again producing a 3D TV.

Sony Crystal LED systems
$5,000,000 for a 3D TV is worth considering. Or you can try your luck on ebay for an LG OLED e6p.

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For $5 million, it better have 32K.
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I've just ordered Aladdin in 3D. Anyone seen it? I didn't in theaters
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They're insanely expensive, but I see it on the bright side. Sony is once again producing a 3D TV.

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Just preordered one, cant wait
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For $5 million, it better have 32K.
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I've just ordered Aladdin in 3D. Anyone seen it? I didn't in theaters
I did too. My grandson said it's a good movie and he is excited to see it again when I get it.

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Didn't you hear? The 2028 Olympics might be broadcast to 3 people in Japan in 32K....gotta future-proof, right? I'm sure someone on will upload a killer demo loop on You Tube, and I won't have any issue streaming 32k, right? I mean, if I'm spending $5 million on this TV, I just want to make sure it's the latest, greatest most pretty resolution with billions and billions of pixels, even if I can't see them.
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Kino does it again. Here comes another 3-D Blu-ray release and this one is said to have jaw dropping stereo imagery in the second half of the film. I feel sorry for the haters and justifiers stuck with new panels that will never have the opportunity to experience this movie the way the director intended.

Long Day's Journey Into Night

Kino Lorber have detailed their upcoming 3D Blu-ray release of Gan Bi's film Long Day's Journey Into Night 3D(2018), starring Jue Huang, Wei Tang, Sylvia Chang, Yongzhong Chen, and Meihuizi Zeng. The release will be available for purchase on November 26.

Synopsis: Bi Gan follows up his knockout debut, Kaili Blues, with this noir-tinged stunner about a lost soul (Jue Huang) on a quest to find a missing woman from his past (Wei Tang, Lust, Caution). Following leads across Guizhou province, he crosses paths with a series of colorful characters, among them a prickly hairdresser played by Taiwanese superstar Sylvia Chang. When the search leads him to a dingy movie theater, the film launches into an hour-long, gravity-defying 3D sequence shot that plunges its protagonist—and us—into a labyrinthine cityscape. China's biggest arthouse hit of all time, the film took in more than $40 million dollars in its opening weekend at the domestic box office.

Special Features:
Interview with director Bi Gan
Interview with star Huang Jue
Making-of documentary
Booklet interview with Bi Gan by writer Aaron Stewart-Ahn
Theatrical trailer

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"About That Insane, Hour-Long, Single-Take, 3D Sequence in 'Long Day's Journey Into Night'"
Thanks for the heads up! FWIW, your Amazon link did not work for me, but I found this one which I believe is to the same product: https://www.amazon.com/Long-Days-Jou.../dp/B07XJZQGD6

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Thanks for the heads up! FWIW, your Amazon link did not work for me, but I found this one which I believe is to the same product: https://www.amazon.com/Long-Days-Jou.../dp/B07XJZQGD6
This link worked and goes to a preorder for Nov. 26 release. It is listed as blue ray but not 3D. I was not clear what language is spoken. There are no reviews other than the poster's. "'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?", Dirty Harry

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I've just ordered Aladdin in 3D. Anyone seen it? I didn't in theaters
I thought it was mostly trash (unlike the Lion King that was mostly good) but of course I pre-ordered it from Amazon UK.

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Thanks for the link, although it still doesn't tell me enough why and how the brain manages to register a 3D image with one eye - provided there is motion in the image...


As a matter of fact, I do often watch 2D movie scenes with one closed eye to experience "recreated 3D".


One of my favorites is the lobby scene in The Matrix:


The moving columns of the lobby enhance the recreated 3D effect, further enhanced by all the debris in time-lapse photograpy. Real 3D couldn't look better.


It's almost an irony of cosmic proportions that to get this kind of 3D from any 2D source (but again, provided there is motion!) one needs to get rid of 3D shutter glasses and instead look for an eye-patch.


Again, 3D isn't dead at all, we've still not seen all of it...

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Thanks for the link, although it still doesn't tell me enough why and how the brain manages to register a 3D image with one eye - provided there is motion in the image...


As a matter of fact, I do often watch 2D movie scenes with one closed eye to experience "recreated 3D".


One of my favorites is the lobby scene in The Matrix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=855w0sdZjgA


The moving columns of the lobby enhance the recreated 3D effect, further enhanced by all the debris in time-lapse photograpy. Real 3D couldn't look better.


It's almost an irony of cosmic proportions that to get this kind of 3D from any 2D source (but again, provided there is motion!) one needs to get rid of 3D shutter glasses and instead look for an eye-patch.


Again, 3D isn't dead at all, we've still not seen all of it...
An easy way to see 3D in a 2D movie is to take a pair of sunglasses and take one lens out. Then watch the movie. Depending on the direction of movement, you will see 3D. You sometimes have to switch the dark lens to the other eye. This works because the light hitting one eye is delayed by the dark lens and causes the brain to see the image from that eye as separate from the right. This works best on sideways movement. This is the "Pulfrich effect", search for it. Lots of info on how it works and other youtube videos.

Here is a great example:
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