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Thoughts on this 75" Black Friday deal?

It's been a few years since I was up to date on the current technologies.

I'm currently located in Canada and saw this TV on sale for $1038

bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/sharp-75-4k-uhd-hdr-led-roku-smart-tv-lc-75lbu711c/13493969?cmp=knc-s-71700000056140580&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI lsLRs5SQ5gIVBT0MCh1ChwBDEAUYASABEgK5bfD_BwE

But I know very little about this screen.

Does anyone know the non best buy equivalent? Is it worth buying?
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Sharp is made by Hisense. That’s a decent entry-level set, definitely worth that sale price.

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Sharp is made by Hisense. That’s a decent entry-level set, definitely worth that sale price.
Thanks a lot. I posted a similar thread on reddit and got some negative feedback about the screen

reddit.com/r/hometheater/comments/e3w13i/can_anyone_help_me_upgrade_my_system_for_black/f9585le?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

He's basically claiming the screen is awful. I'm a little confused and don't have the ability to test it.

Do you know of any reviews? Is there a more common model number somewhere?
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There are no reviews that I know of. It’s an entry level set, so temper your expectations and keep that in mind. I find that people often have unrealistic expectations, hence the reddit user saying the screen is “awful”. It’s not awful—I’ve seen that model in-store.

Are you going to get cutting edge PQ? Of course not, but it’s decent and watchable. The Roku platform is really easy to use, and is well-supported. IMHO, it’s pretty good for what it is, and you’re not gonna get a better 75” tv for $999 Canadian. Don’t overthink it.

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If you're on a limited budget but still want a 75" TV it's an ok choice.

But if you have the budget, stay away from Sharp.
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Would you say the difference is night and day or something that might bother only those that care the most about true colors and perfect blacks?
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Would you say the difference is night and day or something that might bother only those that care the most about true colors and perfect blacks?
Unfortunately, it will be far from having perfect blacks and color. If that is not important to you, then for that price, you are getting a decent deal.
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Another to consider in that size/price range is TCL. They're both on sale at the same price at your local Best Buy, so you should be able to compare them there and make a decision based off of which one you find the most attractive.

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Another to consider in that size/price range is TCL. They're both on sale at the same price at your local Best Buy, so you should be able to compare them there and make a decision based off of which one you find the most attractive.
Thanks a lot. Can I assume it will still be a step up from the 65" non 4k LCD I bought 3 years ago?

Can you recommend a good receiver for my setup?
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Thanks a lot. Can I assume it will still be a step up from the 65" non 4k LCD I bought 3 years ago?

Can you recommend a good receiver for my setup?
I honestly cannot answer that. I just know that the TCL's have gotten some high praise since they came out for being one of the best price/performance TV's available. That's why I suggested going to your local BB and comparing them for yourself. That's really the best way to judge when it comes to stuff like this.

As for AVR's, it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you're just looking for something for a 5.1 setup or possibly 7.1/5.1.2 (Atmos) in a living room setting, I'd look into the lower line "X" series Denon to start off with. You should be able to pick up one of the previous year models (X1400H/X2400H or X1500H/X2500H) for pretty cheap right now.

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Thanks a lot. Can I assume it will still be a step up from the 65" non 4k LCD I bought 3 years ago?

Can you recommend a good receiver for my setup?
Depends on what your previous 65 inch tv was. Just because it's not 4K, does not mean it is bad.
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Another to consider in that size/price range is TCL. They're both on sale at the same price at your local Best Buy, so you should be able to compare them there and make a decision based off of which one you find the most attractive.
Unfortunately, I called and they won't let me open them up to demo.

Is there anything in the specs that would lend preference for one vs the other?
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Which of these TVs to go with?

I am looking to upgrade my 65" 1080p LCD to 75" 4k. There are a few 75" Black Friday deals happening at my local Best Buy.

Can anyone speak to which is the best purchase?

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Unfortunately, I called and they won't let me open them up to demo.

Is there anything in the specs that would lend preference for one vs the other?
Why would you have to open them whenever they're hanging on the wall to demo?

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If your credit card/checking account allows, I'd advise that you narrow your choices to two and bring them home. A showroom is the absolute worst place to audition a television. Take advantage of the no-risk return policy. You might also see if last year's Vizio P series is available.
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You might want to add the Hisense H9F to your list. It's getting great reviews for a budget priced TV!

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If your credit card/checking account allows, I'd advise that you narrow your choices to two and bring them home. A showroom is the absolute worst place to audition a television. Take advantage of the no-risk return policy. You might also see if last year's Vizio P series is available.
With speakers this would apply due to how the room effects sound. With a TV it's a visual thing, so I'm not sure how a showroom is going to make a difference. At least it never has for myself, or anyone else I've known for that matter.

Also, the Visio P Series are almost $3K in Canada...for a refurb.

Ultimately, the OP just needs to make the effort to visit Best Buy and demo them for himself, rather than leaving it up others to make the decision for him/her.

Audio & video are just too subjective, so seeing/listening for yourself is the only real way to know what one may like or dislike.

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With speakers this would apply due to how the room effects sound. With a TV it's a visual thing, so I'm not sure how a showroom is going to make a difference. At least it never has for myself, or anyone else I've known for that matter.

Also, the Visio P Series are almost $3K in Canada...for a refurb.

Ultimately, the OP just needs to make the effort to visit Best Buy and demo them for himself, rather than leaving it up others to make the decision for him/her.

Audio & video are just too subjective, so seeing/listening for yourself is the only real way to know what one may like or dislike.
I believe the recommendation was for the OP to take the TV home for a trial. Retailers are the worst place to demo a TV, the lighting is unlike a home environment and they usually limit viewing to demo loops. Especially for budget TVs hanging on the display wall.

The Hisense H9F is limited to 65" and doesn't appear to be available in Canada. If it were, it would be way over the OP's budget.

Both the Sharp and the TCL 4 series are about the same.

@rzdh , what is your viewing distance? Personally I would either increase the budget or get something smaller of higher quality.
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I believe the recommendation was for the OP to take the TV home for a trial. Retailers are the worst place to demo a TV, the lighting is unlike a home environment and they usually limit viewing to demo loops. Especially for budget TVs hanging on the display wall.

@rzdh , what is your viewing distance? Personally I would either increase the budget or get something smaller of higher quality.
They wouldn't let me demo in store since the units weren't open - I agree demoing at home is the best. My viewing distance is about 8 feet, but this changes when I move (and will likely be reduced to 6 in my next condo). I also wonder if 75" as a whole might be too big for my next condo.

When I started this thread, I thought I might be jumping on a killer black friday deal, but it sounds like I'm not. Boxing Day is coming up soon and the sets are getting better with time. I'm ready for an upgrade, but maybe I'll do it slowly with more budget..

Thanks for the help everyone.
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They wouldn't let me demo in store since the units weren't open - I agree demoing at home is the best. My viewing distance is about 8 feet, but this changes when I move (and will likely be reduced to 6 in my next condo). I also wonder if 75" as a whole might be too big for my next condo.

When I started this thread, I thought I might be jumping on a killer black friday deal, but it sounds like I'm not. Boxing Day is coming up soon and the sets are getting better with time. I'm ready for an upgrade, but maybe I'll do it slowly with more budget..

Thanks for the help everyone.
At 8 feet you don't need a 75" screen and even less so at 6'

I'd downsize to 65" or even 55". Cyber Monday or Boxing day should be a good time to buy of course.
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Wow, 75" for $600! Not the TV I would want but there is no way to argue vakue here.


BestBuy.com has 75" TCL 75S425 on sale for $599.99

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I believe the recommendation was for the OP to take the TV home for a trial. Retailers are the worst place to demo a TV, the lighting is unlike a home environment and they usually limit viewing to demo loops. Especially for budget TVs hanging on the display wall.

The Hisense H9F is limited to 65" and doesn't appear to be available in Canada. If it were, it would be way over the OP's budget.

Both the Sharp and the TCL 4 series are about the same.

@rzdh , what is your viewing distance? Personally I would either increase the budget or get something smaller of higher quality.
I'm well aware of his recommendation, and I completely disagree with it where a TV is concerned.

I'm almost 50 years old, and In all of the years of purchasing televeisions, never once have I had to purchase one (or even two for comparison) to take home for a trial run. To be quite honest, I've never even heard it suggested prior to reading it on this post. Lol.

Look, I'm not trying to be a hard ass about this, nor am I trying to start an argument. I just know that we're all trying to help the OP in his search, and the bottom line is, at some point he has to get out and actually do some legwork to find out what works best him. And generally whenever a store like Best Buy is selling a product, they have them on display as well for the customer to demo, so I'm also somewhat baffled as to why he was told that BOTH TV's weren't on display. That's just odd.

Anyway. Good luck to the OP.

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Wow, 75" for $600! Not the TV I would want but there is no way to argue vakue here.


BestBuy.com has 75" TCL 75S425 on sale for $599.99
The OP is in Canada
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I'm well aware of his recommendation, and I completely disagree with it where a TV is concerned.

I'm almost 50 years old, and In all of the years of purchasing televeisions, never once have I had to purchase one (or even two for comparison) to take home for a trial run. To be quite honest, I've never even heard it suggested prior to reading it on this post. Lol.

Look, I'm not trying to be a hard ass about this, nor am I trying to start an argument. I just know that we're all trying to help the OP in his search, and the bottom line is, at some point he has to get out and actually do some legwork to find out what works best him. And generally whenever a store like Best Buy is selling a product, they have them on display as well for the customer to demo, so I'm also somewhat baffled as to why he was told that BOTH TV's weren't on display. That's just odd.

Anyway. Good luck to the OP.
Trial was probably not the best term to use. The main point is to buy from somewhere with a good return policy, so that if the TV is not satisfactory at home where the true test is, it can be returned. I agree that buying two and taking the loser back would be overkill. People do that with speakers often.
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Trial was probably not the best term to use. The main point is to buy from somewhere with a good return policy, so that if the TV is not satisfactory at home where the true test is, it can be returned. I agree that buying two and taking the loser back would be overkill. People do that with speakers often.
Definitely agree with this for speakers, but for a TV in a normal living room setup (I'm assuming this applies to the OP), it's just really not neccessary to go through all of the the hassle. Especially considering that the vast majority of the places that I've purchased from has other options of things to view on their TV's aside from a Demo loop. You just have to ask sometimes.

Now, if you're looking into something for a dedicated space with controlled lighting, you have the bigger budget, you're trying to decide between LCD/LED or OLED, and just aren't sure which one has the best PQ in a totally blacked out (or ambient lit?) room, then I can see where this might be feasable. But that isn't the case here...hence, why I said what I said.

Now, with that said...if someone wants to go through all of that, then by all means go for it. Whatever makes an individual comfortable will vary from person to person. Again, it's all subjective.

The most important thing here, is that whatever the OP decides on, and/or how he decides between the options given, he's still getting a hell of deal. That, I'm certain we can all agree on. Lol
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Hi everyone,

Too many responses to quote all of you individually in one post (I wish that feature existed).

I'm currently in a small Canadian town, so they aren't as liberal about letting you open up boxes and demo.

I've decided to increase my budget or buy a 65" or higher quality 75" based on the overall feedback that I've received. I'd like this TV to last me another 3-5 years and want a panel with decent colours and blacks. I've ruled out the existing panels that I was looking at and am now considering these:

I've gotten some feedback that 75" might be overkill for a condo, but I like size. Can anyone compare these two sets?

It's worth mentioning that my primary video watching will be 80% Netflix/Torrents through my PS4 (probably upgrading to a ps4 pro if I upgrade the TV).
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Hi everyone,

Too many responses to quote all of you individually in one post (I wish that feature existed).

I'm currently in a small Canadian town, so they aren't as liberal about letting you open up boxes and demo.

I've decided to increase my budget or buy a 65" or higher quality 75" based on the overall feedback that I've received. I'd like this TV to last me another 3-5 years and want a panel with decent colours and blacks. I've ruled out the existing panels that I was looking at and am now considering these:

I've gotten some feedback that 75" might be overkill for a condo, but I like size. Can anyone compare these two sets?

It's worth mentioning that my primary video watching will be 80% Netflix/Torrents through my PS4 (probably upgrading to a ps4 pro if I upgrade the TV).
Those TVs are better than the Sharp/TCL 4 series but they are still low-mid level TVs. A 75" will be ok for 4K content but anything lower resolution will probably look more blurry from 6-8'. Also Samsung doesn't support Dolby Vision, which Netflix has a lot of content of. The 65" has a curved panel, which is a fad that has passed. It limits your viewing angle to dead center.

I'd suggest the TCL 6 series 65" or the Vizio M65
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Hi everyone,

Too many responses to quote all of you individually in one post (I wish that feature existed).

I'm currently in a small Canadian town, so they aren't as liberal about letting you open up boxes and demo.

I've decided to increase my budget or buy a 65" or higher quality 75" based on the overall feedback that I've received. I'd like this TV to last me another 3-5 years and want a panel with decent colours and blacks. I've ruled out the existing panels that I was looking at and am now considering these:

I've gotten some feedback that 75" might be overkill for a condo, but I like size. Can anyone compare these two sets?

It's worth mentioning that my primary video watching will be 80% Netflix/Torrents through my PS4 (probably upgrading to a ps4 pro if I upgrade the TV).
The Samsung 6 & 7 series are decent TV's, but if you've decided to up your budget a bit, and want better colors/blacks, then you'll need something that can better process these features.

This Sony 900F is one of the best LCD/LED's available, and isn't that much more than what you're looking at now.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...x900f/12322171

My second choice would be this Samsung QLED.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...afxzc/13407276

Also, look to see about "Open Box" deals. You can save a couple of hundred or so this way.

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Thanks guys. I've confirmed my current viewing distance is 10 feet and likely won't drop below 8 feet.

It looks like I've narrowed it down to these three:
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...641744&irgwc=1
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...641744&irgwc=1
https://gibbyselectronicsupermarket....y-xbr-75x800g/

Each are around $1500, with the 75" purportedly having a higher discount.

Of these three is there one to recommend? I looked at the 75" TCL 6 series, but it was only $100 off.
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This Sony 900F is one of the best LCD/LED's available, and isn't that much more than what you're looking at now.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...x900f/12322171
How does this compare to this one:
https://gibbyselectronicsupermarket....y-xbr-75x800g/
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