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Got my refurb 5040ub from epson CANADA today. Not impressed!!!

Scratch on lens and boxing was horrible.

Anyone know if the scratch will affect the projected image or should I send back? I’m going to do a test tonight.
If that's a scratch and not some sort of cleanable mess - send that back.

A scratch should only matter at a pretty specific focus - think camera dirt - it won't even show up on the final picture except at certain distances/zoom levels.

That said - if that's truly an etching on the glass they should take it back just because that's unacceptable to send out a unit with such a massive obviously visible scratch.

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Got my refurb 5040ub from epson CANADA today. Not impressed!!!

Scratch on lens and boxing was horrible.

Anyone know if the scratch will affect the projected image or should I send back? I’m going to do a test tonight.

If that's a scratch and not some sort of cleanable mess - send that back.

A scratch should only matter at a pretty specific focus - think camera dirt - it won't even show up on the final picture except at certain distances/zoom levels.

That said - if that's truly an etching on the glass they should take it back just because that's unacceptable to send out a unit with such a massive obviously visible scratch.
Yes it is etched in the glass. I used a lens cleaner to clean lens and check.
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Yes it is etched in the glass. I used a lens cleaner to clean lens and check.
That's a bummer, I'd let them know about that for sure. FWIW, it looks like all the projectors come from the same place. My Epson Canada pj came from the US (Indianapolis, IIRC).

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That's a bummer, I'd let them know about that for sure. FWIW, it looks like all the projectors come from the same place. My Epson Canada pj came from the US (Indianapolis, IIRC).
Yup.. mine too.. will be delivered today. Looks like they are out of stock now in both US and Can so it may take a while to get a replacement. I am hoping I don't need to return mine...
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Yup.. mine too.. will be delivered today. Looks like they are out of stock now in both US and Can so it may take a while to get a replacement. I am hoping I don't need to return mine...
Called Epson, their line had a ton of static. After 30 minutes they said they had a unit to send me, and it is enroute. They are then having Fedex pick-up the unit from my house tomorrow. I should have the replacement unit early next week. Crossing my fingers!

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Just got mine. It was packaged nicely and looks good so far. Some dirt and smudges on the case that a quick cleaning took care of. Lens looks clear with no scratches. There’s a very small scratch on the lens trim ring, but overall it looks great. Fired it up and checked the service menu and have zero hours on bulb and projector. I’m assuming they have learned to just reset both of these during service. I still need to run test patterns, but the menu looks great...

I knew this thing was big, but in person I was shocked how big it really was. My last projector was an Epson 8350, and this thing is like triple the size.

I’m surprised nobody makes their own ceiling mounts. Those chief mounts are pricey unless you get an eBay deal. In the past I used 1/2” pipe with floor flanges connected to a board with screws and wingnuts into the PJ. It’s a little less convenient to setup, but you do it once and it only costs like $20-30 in parts. As heavy as it feels, this PJ is only 24lbs.
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I'm going to mount mine on a deep shelf at about 7 1/2 feet off the floor. The vent placement and connection recesses really make this these projectors suitable for (large) shelf mounting.

I see dead pixels.......
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Just got mine. It was packaged nicely and looks good so far. Some dirt and smudges on the case that a quick cleaning took care of. Lens looks clear with no scratches. There’s a very small scratch on the lens trim ring, but overall it looks great. Fired it up and checked the service menu and have zero hours on bulb and projector. I’m assuming they have learned to just reset both of these during service. I still need to run test patterns, but the menu looks great...

I knew this thing was big, but in person I was shocked how big it really was. My last projector was an Epson 8350, and this thing is like triple the size.

I’m surprised nobody makes their own ceiling mounts. Those chief mounts are pricey unless you get an eBay deal. In the past I used 1/2” pipe with floor flanges connected to a board with screws and wingnuts into the PJ. It’s a little less convenient to setup, but you do it once and it only costs like $20-30 in parts. As heavy as it feels, this PJ is only 24lbs.
Yeah.. I will likely do something similar... put a 2ftx2ft plywood on ceiling and use 2"x3" corner pieces.. and another 2x2 board on bottom to use as shelf for projector. Will use screws and glue to make sure secure and paint it before placing projector. Is it correct in what I have heard is that the center of lens is even with the top of the image(screen) when projector in Normal mode (not ceiling)
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CHF2500 and CHF4500 are the combo packs (include all necessary parts) for the 5040UB on that Chief mount that missippiman recommended. They are cheap on eBay.

I second his recommendation. Fantastic custom mounts you could hang on. Nearly everything else I’ve tried over the last 20 years is pure junk by comparison.
How much do they usually go for on eBay? It's almost $300 on Epson's website.
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Yeah.. I will likely do something similar... put a 2ftx2ft plywood on ceiling and use 2"x3" corner pieces.. and another 2x2 board on bottom to use as shelf for projector. Will use screws and glue to make sure secure and paint it before placing projector. Is it correct in what I have heard is that the center of lens is even with the top of the image(screen) when projector in Normal mode (not ceiling)


The manual is confusing, but it looks like the center of the lens is centered on the image nominally. You can vertically shift quite a bit up or down though. Basically the whole image height can be above or below the centerline by about half the image height.
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Yeah.. I will likely do something similar... put a 2ftx2ft plywood on ceiling and use 2"x3" corner pieces.. and another 2x2 board on bottom to use as shelf for projector. Will use screws and glue to make sure secure and paint it before placing projector. Is it correct in what I have heard is that the center of lens is even with the top of the image(screen) when projector in Normal mode (not ceiling)
Actually using Jack Liu calculator looks like I should be able to easily put it on a shelf on my back wall... so will try that first.. I have low ceiling at 87" so will put shelf 76" from ground or so dont hit head .... back wall is 15-16 ft from screen and image size is 140"... I assume it is best to try and use as little horz and Vet lens shift as possible for best image... and closest to screen...?
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Actually using Jack Liu calculator looks like I should be able to easily put it on a shelf on my back wall... so will try that first.. I have low ceiling at 87" so will put shelf 76" from ground or so dont hit head .... back wall is 15-16 ft from screen and image size is 140"... I assume it is best to try and use as little horz and Vet lens shift as possible for best image... and closest to screen...?
Yes, try to optimize either horizontal or vertical first. The quoted maximum lens shifts can't be invoked together. I tested my pj a foot off axis horizontally, and that really limited how vertical I could go. Fortunately, I can mount dead center horizontally, so I'll have max vertical shift.

To add: lens shift won't degrade your image, it's not the same as keystone, it's purely optical.

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Yes, try to optimize either horizontal or vertical first. The quoted maximum lens shifts can't be invoked together. I tested my pj a foot off axis horizontally, and that really limited how vertical I could go. Fortunately, I can mount dead center horizontally, so I'll have max vertical shift.

To add: lens shift won't degrade your image, it's not the same as keystone, it's purely optical.
Great thanks... I should be fine then.. I have some flexibility both horz and vertical.. so should be fine. A shelf will be soooo much easier...
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They are currently out of stock, but looks like they are coming available more frequently. I am needing a projector as a "daily driver" in my Living Room. Is it worth holding out for the 5040? Or should I just drop the same amount of cash on the TK800M? Wouldnt be used much during daylight hours, but assume some use in moderate ambient light conditions, but mainly evening (dark) use.
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How much do they usually go for on eBay? It's almost $300 on Epson's website.


$40 okay?

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Nice! Definitely affordable, I will keep watching it. Thanks!

CHF4500 is the same as the CHF2500, correct? Both compatible with the 5040UB?

Mine just arrived. Will post on it's condition later on.
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I knew this thing was big, but in person I was shocked how big it really was. My last projector was an Epson 8350, and this thing is like triple the size.

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That's my biggest deterrent so far..."size"....I'm just getting used to my current elephant in the room, the 4030 after my 1440..... and the 5040 dwarfs both....lol

Epson 1440 on top of Pro Cinema4030


... deftoneuk mentioned the BenQ TK800M and that is to my 1440 as the 1440 is to the 4030/5030......

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Nice! Definitely affordable, I will keep watching it. Thanks!



CHF4500 is the same as the CHF2500, correct? Both compatible with the 5040UB?



Mine just arrived. Will post on it's condition later on.


They are both compatible with the 5040UB bit the CHF4500 is the official model. The CHF2500 was for previous Epsons but still works fine. The CHF2500 has a slightly smaller mounting plate!

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Got my refurb 5040ub from epson CANADA today. Not impressed!!!

Scratch on lens and boxing was horrible.

Anyone know if the scratch will affect the projected image or should I send back? I’m going to do a test tonight.

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pretty bad and no foam in the packing, Mine was single boxed and not great but made it. That scratch almost looks like a crack. Send it back so bad they might hook you up with a really pristine one.

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pretty bad and no foam in the packing, Mine was single boxed and not great but made it. That scratch almost looks like a crack. Send it back so bad they might hook you up with a really pristine one.
Mine was single boxed too...not impressed. In photos it looked like a crack but it was a scratch, pretty deep I might add. Epson has a new one being sent to me and they are having FedEx pick up the other one tomorrow. I have to say It was nice to hear they were sending a new one without me having already sent the other one back. Time to order my RuiPro cable and new mount...trying to decide if I want to spend money on the Chief or get the Peerless PRG-UNV which is like half the price...I feel the Peerless will be adequate.

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Getting a brand new projector is a odd and wonderful offer after my experience where I was told there was no way that could happen on the return request of my fourth refurb — I was told that refurbs were never replaced by new units on a discontinued model and that another refurb, or a refund, were my only options. Maybe the bad (honest) press in this thread made Epson refurb center reconsider their practices to bring up their reputation. That’s a good thing!

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I got mine and it looks like new. Mine came packed with a foam on top and bottom. No scratches on the lens. 0 hours of lamp operation time. Serial number is X3347Y0231L. Trying to check for blobs but how do you do that exactly? Do I need to zoom in or out to see them? Does the screen have to be a certain size? Right now I have about 70 inches of screen with no input showing a black screen and no blobs from what I can see.
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I got mine and it looks like new. Mine came packed with a foam on top and bottom. No scratches on the lens. 0 hours of lamp operation time. Serial number is X3347Y0231L. Trying to check for blobs but how do you do that exactly? Do I need to zoom in or out to see them? Does the screen have to be a certain size? Right now I have about 70 inches of screen with no input showing a black screen and no blobs from what I can see.
Dust blobs can potentially become brighter or less noticeable as you zoom from one extreme to the other. If you don't see any on the factory black screen when the projector is powered on that's idea! If you hang your projector and still don't notice them on your projector screen with the projector powered on - your good -- there's no reason to search further. Even if you see one at a projected image size you don't use - it probably doesn't matter, because only the size you actually use is all that matters.

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Dust blobs can potentially become brighter or less noticeable as you zoom from one extreme to the other. If you don't see any on the factory black screen when the projector is powered on that's idea! If you hang your projector and still don't notice them on your projector screen with the projector powered on - your good -- there's no reason to search further. Even if you see one at a projected image size you don't use - it probably doesn't matter, because only the size you actually use is all that matters.
Awesome! The only thing that has me worried now is the pink hue. I'm seeing a little bit of it on both sides, almost like a circular pattern. Most of the middle section is white and clear but turns slightly pinkish towards edges. I'm only throwing it on the wall right now though which is painted light grey, not sure if that affects it.
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Awesome! The only thing that has me worried now is the pink hue. I'm seeing a little bit of it on both sides, almost like a circular pattern. Most of the middle section is white and clear but turns slightly pinkish towards edges. I'm only throwing it on the wall right now though which is painted light grey, not sure if that affects it.

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They are currently out of stock, but looks like they are coming available more frequently. I am needing a projector as a "daily driver" in my Living Room. Is it worth holding out for the 5040? Or should I just drop the same amount of cash on the TK800M? Wouldnt be used much during daylight hours, but assume some use in moderate ambient light conditions, but mainly evening (dark) use.
Everything else aside, the combination of available Lumen output and Contrast is what will really count if the PJ is to be used as a daily "TV". One can too easily state in the beginning that "I'll use it mostly in the Evening..." but three things are easily overlooked.
  • The actual...real world amount of time that the system will be used. "The Big TV Picture" tends to grow on oneself, and viewing everything...at any normal time...becomes the status quo.
  • Based on both the time of day and the lighting conditions, both Lumen and Contrast combined with at least a modestly able ALR Screen will be what allows almost "anytime" viewing.
  • In a Living Room, mounting considerations can be quite limited....if cosmetics are even a small considerations. As such, the availability of a wide Zoom length and Lens shift can be critical
The BenQ TK800M is a good budget 4K....but lacks all the niceties that make a living room installations easily accommodated. Most noticeably Lens Shift. However it is well suited to TV viewing because of it's Lamp's long lifespan (4000 Full-15,000 Eco) and the Lamp's low replacement Cost ($150.00), and absolutely it's dedicated Vivid TV Mode.



However the ONLY reasons the TK800M can be considered in the same context as the 5040UB is when the 5040UB is priced at the same point, and is a refirub with overriding issues. Otherwise, a wide gulf in performance and features (...yeah, and price...) separate them

The 5040 is a great PJ.....when one has no issues.I find it both sad and compelling that all the complaints seem to be focused on this Refurb thread. But also...totally expected. Back when the 5040 was fairly new, many of the same refurbish-oriented complaints were the same ones listed on this Thread. The difference? Those receiving the refurbished units has a intrinsic right to demand a New replacement after 2-3 miscues with QC. They did after all pay full ticket....new units were in short supply, and Epson was less inclined to opt to repair any unit that came with a defect OTB.

I gotta add this though. My own experience with at least a couple dozen 5040s....almost all of which involved dedicated Theaters with BIG screens...were impeccably free of issues. Lucky me, I guess.

I set them up to avail myself of the available Lumen output and installation flexibility, and they simply never disappointed. Only the JVCs I use (590-790-990 s) were preferred over the 5040, and then only if the budget could stand it. But as far as being used as a TV replacement...it's the 5040 all the way. Especially in ambient light locations.

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Awesome! The only thing that has me worried now is the pink hue. I'm seeing a little bit of it on both sides, almost like a circular pattern. Most of the middle section is white and clear but turns slightly pinkish towards edges. I'm only throwing it on the wall right now though which is painted light grey, not sure if that affects it.
The Grey Wall isn't an issue...and the PJ's light uniformity isn't a factor either. (...although any marked surface attenuation could enhance the effect...) That the pinkish ring aberration is equally distributed around the edges means it could be a Lens issue, as the 3 separate LCD Pnaels would not work together to create such a evenly produced ill effect. However "one" Panel (Red or Blue) might have a variable discoloration around the edges. Speculation is all you can go on until you send it in...if you do.

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The Grey Wall isn't an issue...and the PJ's light uniformity isn't a factor either. (...although any marked surface attenuation could enhance the effect...) That the pinkish ring aberration is equally distributed around the edges means it could be a Lens issue, as the 3 separate LCD Pnaels would not work together to create such a evenly produced ill effect. However "one" Panel (Red or Blue) might have a variable discoloration around the edges. Speculation is all you can go on until you send it in...if you do.
This is a different grey wall paint than the one we've discussed before, this is the bedroom and it's semi-glossy. But I took some photos and I don't know if they do a good job of showing it.
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Looks like you got a good one to me.

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Looks like you got a good one to me.
It's not too bad like some of the pictures I've seen posted. I believe you had similar issue with yours. Still, I wouldn't say it's all evenly white on each box.
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It's not too bad like some of the pictures I've seen posted. I believe you had similar issue with yours. Still, I wouldn't say it's all evenly white on each box.

Maybe the problem isn't showing up on my monitor or phone display, or the camera isn't picking it up well, but I can't see it in your pictures. It appears you may have the red panel a little out of alignment if you have a red line on the far right of your screen. That's not that big of a deal, because a bit of an overzoom will hide it, but if it bothers you or if you can see it on small font text you can likely fix it through the panel alignment controls in the Projector's menu system.
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