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post #31 of 49 Old 04-19-2019, 11:08 AM
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Could not have been sent today. The account has been banned since we were notified, and the account hasn't been accessed since that day.
Dunno what forum software you use or what DB is behind it, but I could definitely help with some queries to catch accounts with scammer patterns before they get anyone.
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This one may have had obvious red flags, but they don't always.

1. Forum member was going to buy speakers from me.

2. Was going to pay with PayPal. <-- ok so far

3. The buyer was a new forum member with maybe 1 post. This is always a cause for heightened security, but it's not always a red flag. My post may have simply surfaced in an internet search.

4. The PayPal name was of a Russian female. Okay, I shouldn't be one to judge, but you know, not a lot of those are perusing the AVS forums. Just saying. It's possible some lady was looking to surprise her husband with some Xmas speakers, but this combined with with the new member status earned this exchange a yellow flag. Never hurts to be too careful.

5. I always check out where I'm shipping to. I zoomed in with Google Maps on the shipping address: it's a business/warehouse. At this point I feel a little apprehensive. I notice there are a few reviews of the address: people saying they were either scammed after sending items there, or it was at least attempted. Red flag, game over. I am not comfortable shipping my speakers to some shady place after which someone may file a dispute with PayPal and lie that they never received the goods.

When I asked them for a personal address (to test how they respond), they vanished into the night.

Be careful out there.

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The only problem with that is a lot of people ship to their workplace. Between package thieves at home, having no one to sign for packages at home (and having to find some far off depot to pick it up), or even just having a box sitting on the front porch all day, it's generally recommended to ship to work.

There is no simple solution. Just a balance of risks. Granted in your case the risk was higher (doesn't paypal indicate if the address is confirmed anymore?) given the newness of the accounts.
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The only problem with that is a lot of people ship to their workplace. Between package thieves at home, having no one to sign for packages at home (and having to find some far off depot to pick it up), or even just having a box sitting on the front porch all day, it's generally recommended to ship to work.

There is no simple solution. Just a balance of risks. Granted in your case the risk was higher (doesn't paypal indicate if the address is confirmed anymore?) given the newness of the accounts.
I forgot to mention the real kicker - people were leaving Google reviews on the address saying that they had been scammed or it was attempted. I'll edit my post.

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Ok, that makes much more sense now - the shipping address has notes on fraud.

I have to admit I never thought to check that. And I guess if people refuse to ship to you, it would help to check your work address to see if it was used for fraud as well.
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Classifieds Advice

Hi,

I posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

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Hi,

I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks
I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
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Hi,

I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

You are wise to be wary. avoid and disregard whoever it is. Deal only with those who have a regular presence on this site. in my opinion of course.
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Moved. If you ever have doubts, use the report pm function, and staff will look into it. More than likely, it has already been dealt with. Follow these guidelines

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/209-a...uncements.html

Please use the report post button to alert staff to problematic posts. Never quote or respond to them yourself.

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I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
Thanks for the reply, what do you mean by phish them? Forgot to mention, they have also disabled receiving PMs, so I am not able to message them back, the gmail address would be the only option.

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Thanks for the reply, what do you mean by phish them?
Pretend like your going along with their game and act interested. I’ll bet it plays out exactly as I described.
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Moved. If you ever have doubts, use the report pm function, and staff will look into it. More than likely, it has already been dealt with. Follow these guidelines

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/209-a...uncements.html
Thanks - can you point me toward the "report PM" function? Having trouble locating it.
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Please use the report post button to alert staff to problematic posts. Never quote or respond to them yourself.

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I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.



Any advice is appreciated.



Thanks


IMO trust your gut on something like that. Based on my experience someone contacting on behalf of someone does indeed have giant red flags! I think, in short order, you’ll find a opportunity that won’t feel so suspect.


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I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
If you use PayPal goods and services they won't get their money until about a month. If they rip you off you tell PayPal and they give you your money back after a couple weeks. It's happened to me a couple times and I always got money back. Also ask for a pic with their screenname on a piece of paper and don't be afraid to tell them you are sceptacle.
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If you use PayPal goods and services they won't get their money until about a month. If they rip you off you tell PayPal and they give you your money back after a couple weeks. It's happened to me a couple times and I always got money back. Also ask for a pic with their screenname on a piece of paper and don't be afraid to tell them you are sceptacle.
Yes, but these scammers don’t want nor ask for PayPal as a method of payment for that very reason. As I mentioned, they will ask for a method that offers zero buyer protection and won’t accept anything else.

Just use common sense when dealing with people online. Simple as that.
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0 posts, joined in May of 2019...Messaged me telling me to text someone about a subwoofer they have for sale.


Not saying he is a scammer, I am just always skeptical about messages like that.
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i always ask for a specific picture so that i know they actually have the item. a picture with a dollar bill in front of it for example, or could be anything else just so i know it is not a generic stock photo or one from an ebay auction, etc.

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