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post #31 of 197 Old 04-19-2019, 11:08 AM
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Could not have been sent today. The account has been banned since we were notified, and the account hasn't been accessed since that day.
Dunno what forum software you use or what DB is behind it, but I could definitely help with some queries to catch accounts with scammer patterns before they get anyone.
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This one may have had obvious red flags, but they don't always.

1. Forum member was going to buy speakers from me.

2. Was going to pay with PayPal. <-- ok so far

3. The buyer was a new forum member with maybe 1 post. This is always a cause for heightened security, but it's not always a red flag. My post may have simply surfaced in an internet search.

4. The PayPal name was of a Russian female. Okay, I shouldn't be one to judge, but you know, not a lot of those are perusing the AVS forums. Just saying. It's possible some lady was looking to surprise her husband with some Xmas speakers, but this combined with with the new member status earned this exchange a yellow flag. Never hurts to be too careful.

5. I always check out where I'm shipping to. I zoomed in with Google Maps on the shipping address: it's a business/warehouse. At this point I feel a little apprehensive. I notice there are a few reviews of the address: people saying they were either scammed after sending items there, or it was at least attempted. Red flag, game over. I am not comfortable shipping my speakers to some shady place after which someone may file a dispute with PayPal and lie that they never received the goods.

When I asked them for a personal address (to test how they respond), they vanished into the night.

Be careful out there.
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The only problem with that is a lot of people ship to their workplace. Between package thieves at home, having no one to sign for packages at home (and having to find some far off depot to pick it up), or even just having a box sitting on the front porch all day, it's generally recommended to ship to work.

There is no simple solution. Just a balance of risks. Granted in your case the risk was higher (doesn't paypal indicate if the address is confirmed anymore?) given the newness of the accounts.
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The only problem with that is a lot of people ship to their workplace. Between package thieves at home, having no one to sign for packages at home (and having to find some far off depot to pick it up), or even just having a box sitting on the front porch all day, it's generally recommended to ship to work.

There is no simple solution. Just a balance of risks. Granted in your case the risk was higher (doesn't paypal indicate if the address is confirmed anymore?) given the newness of the accounts.
I forgot to mention the real kicker - people were leaving Google reviews on the address saying that they had been scammed or it was attempted. I'll edit my post.

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Ok, that makes much more sense now - the shipping address has notes on fraud.

I have to admit I never thought to check that. And I guess if people refuse to ship to you, it would help to check your work address to see if it was used for fraud as well.
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Classifieds Advice

Hi,

I posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

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Hi,

I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

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I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
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I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.

Any advice is appreciated.

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You are wise to be wary. avoid and disregard whoever it is. Deal only with those who have a regular presence on this site. in my opinion of course.
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Moved. If you ever have doubts, use the report pm function, and staff will look into it. More than likely, it has already been dealt with. Follow these guidelines

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I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
Thanks for the reply, what do you mean by phish them? Forgot to mention, they have also disabled receiving PMs, so I am not able to message them back, the gmail address would be the only option.

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Thanks for the reply, what do you mean by phish them?
Pretend like your going along with their game and act interested. I’ll bet it plays out exactly as I described.
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Moved. If you ever have doubts, use the report pm function, and staff will look into it. More than likely, it has already been dealt with. Follow these guidelines

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Thanks - can you point me toward the "report PM" function? Having trouble locating it.
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I realize this is the subwoofer forum but I had posted a WTB listing for a subwoofer in the classifieds and received a PM with a lead on the sub I'm looking to purchase with a gmail address to contact. This member joined the forum today and has zero posts. Are there measures I can take to protect myself in ensuring a potential transaction is legitimate or would you say this is just too much of a red flag? Of course I do not want to offend anyone, especially if this is an honest, helpful person that frequents the forum and has just not previously had a reason to formally register. That said, I did see another member post a warning message in the classifieds recently about a transaction they had been burned on (buyer sent payment, "seller" cut off communication, buyer never received their item) so I want to be smart.



Any advice is appreciated.



Thanks


IMO trust your gut on something like that. Based on my experience someone contacting on behalf of someone does indeed have giant red flags! I think, in short order, you’ll find a opportunity that won’t feel so suspect.


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Thanks for the headsup... Just received a message he had good offer on Emotiva XPA5... Thank you

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I would run from this. Next they will be selling it for buddy and asking for payment through western union or some other way without protection.

Phish them a little bit and act interested, Id be willing to bet I’m right. I’ve seen this on here many times.
If you use PayPal goods and services they won't get their money until about a month. If they rip you off you tell PayPal and they give you your money back after a couple weeks. It's happened to me a couple times and I always got money back. Also ask for a pic with their screenname on a piece of paper and don't be afraid to tell them you are sceptacle.
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If you use PayPal goods and services they won't get their money until about a month. If they rip you off you tell PayPal and they give you your money back after a couple weeks. It's happened to me a couple times and I always got money back. Also ask for a pic with their screenname on a piece of paper and don't be afraid to tell them you are sceptacle.
Yes, but these scammers don’t want nor ask for PayPal as a method of payment for that very reason. As I mentioned, they will ask for a method that offers zero buyer protection and won’t accept anything else.

Just use common sense when dealing with people online. Simple as that.
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0 posts, joined in May of 2019...Messaged me telling me to text someone about a subwoofer they have for sale.


Not saying he is a scammer, I am just always skeptical about messages like that.
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i always ask for a specific picture so that i know they actually have the item. a picture with a dollar bill in front of it for example, or could be anything else just so i know it is not a generic stock photo or one from an ebay auction, etc.
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Warning Scammer Tom Morgan

Just a heads up to anyone. I was referred to a Tom Morgan, email [email protected] for a sub for sale. The person copied an exact ad of the item being sold last year . He also asked me to pay him by going to a bitcoin atm near me. Complete scam.
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Thanks for posting this. Didn't completely realize it was a scam until he kept asking me to send PayPal gift. He must be attempting to scam many others. In my case, I was being offered an emotiva.

Claims he lived in LA and didn't want to allow a local pickup. Absolutely avoid at all costs. Can anyone provide some advice on how report to this?
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He told me he sold an emotiva amp to someone n gave me an email of person to check with. He’s a complete fraud. When I said I can do PayPal he said he wasn’t familiar with it . Shame on person who pm’d me his email telling me to thank him later. It was probably him phishing.
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Let me guess, a random pm from Davedau?
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Mine was from a Jerry01. Knew it was too good to be true when he’d sell me a danley dts-10 for 820 shipped from Cali to NY lol. Here’s address in his email. Street google shows a rundown house with no roof lol.
Hello,

Thanks for writing. Apologies for the delay in response as I was busy. I just got a chance to check my mail. I have Up for sale a Danley DTS-10 subwoofer. It has been painted black. Overall the sub is in excellent condition with a few chips of paint missing due to moving the sub. I still have paint left over that I will include so you can touch it up once you receive the sub so it will look like new. I've been using a Behringer EP2000 amplifier with this that I can include for an additional cost if you don't have an amp to use with this subwoofer. This thing is a beast with crazy output, even down past 10hz. I've been told the IMAX in Chicago uses two of these for sub-bass output in their theater!

I'm selling due to a move. I don't have room in the new house for a dedicated theater space with a sub of this size. But i have decided to build 4 ported subs instead.
I am asking a $820 for it shipped to your location. I am in California and will ship via UPS. The asking price includes shipping and payment will be sent to my bitcoin wallet.
What's your complete shipping address?


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Thanks for the advice.. I hope these guys get banned before they can extort any more money from genuine enthusiasts just trying to buy or sell some legit equipment...

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Just curious, what price was he offering for the Emotiva XPA-5? Was it a Gen 3?

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Just curious, what price was he offering for the Emotiva XPA-5? Was it a Gen 3?

He had offered me the XPA-5 Gen 2 in response to my ad. It appeared he also had legit pictures of it as well. So I assume it's a person with some knowledge and ownership of his equipment. He was asking $500 shipped from CA. Same address as the one posted above.
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Since I showed him the ad that he copied and pasted as his own I haven’t heard from him. He even copied the pics the original owner used of the sub to show me lol. Stay far away from this guy. Also only pay using PayPal or in person. Bitcoin atm payment big red flag.
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Fraud alert from the same account as OP mentioned. This is what I saw in my inbox this morning:

"I have a lead on a Marantz SR6012 9.2 Channel AVR for sale. Text Robbie in SC 864-659-0405. I have a lead on one. Text Robbie in Sc 864-659-0405 or email robbiewrightts at gmail. He has one for sale"

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