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Just trying to get some opinions from people who have seen both or better yet compared both. I currently have a 100" 16X9 StudioTek 130 G3 screen. Just wondering what differences I would notice switching to the StudioTek 100.

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Just trying to get some opinions from people who have seen both or better yet compared both. I currently have a 100" 16X9 StudioTek 130 G3 screen. Just wondering what differences I would notice switching to the StudioTek 100.

What projector are you using? If your room has really good light control and your projector has enough lumens, the 100 will provide a better image.
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JVC 990. It does have good light control.

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Unity gain screens like the StudioTek 100 or Da-Lite Progressive-Infinity will not exhibit the "sparklies" that screens with gain tend to have. But you not only need ambient light control, your projector must also have adequate brightness for the image size contemplated. LCOS projectors are somewhat light-challenged and that means if used with a unity gain screen the image size will need to be modest.
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I ordered a light meter from amazon. Guess the first step it to see what my projector is capable of in my room.

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Unity gain screens like the StudioTek 100 or Da-Lite Progressive-Infinity will not exhibit the "sparklies" that screens with gain tend to have. But you not only need ambient light control, your projector must also have adequate brightness for the image size contemplated. LCOS projectors are somewhat light-challenged and that means if used with a unity gain screen the image size will need to be modest.

I was going to mention this too. I seem to be more sensitive to the "sparklies" than I used to be. You can request a sample of the 100 to compare.

I have an almost identical screen to what you have and use a very similar JVC projector. My room has medium colored walls and there is light spread all over them (worse on ceiling). It will just get worse with the 100. I don't have any issues with viewing angle, brightness shifts, etc.--just the sparkles.

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I don't think I have any issues with my current screen as it is by all means the reference standard. I'm just curious about the 100 material. My ceiling is flat black and walls are a flat chocolate. I can always add some protostar light flock material to the walls and ceiling a couple feet out from the screen if light spilling onto the walls and ceiling became an issue. First things first I think I should measure the light output of my projector to the screen.

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I am considering the 100 and the 130, I have an Elunevison 4k 1.0 reference screen with a JVC X500R. The screen performs very well, disappears. But I want a bit bigger screen, currently 115in and I hear so much about the Stewart screens. Curious if you ever did change to the 100?

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Unity gain screens like the StudioTek 100 or Da-Lite Progressive-Infinity will not exhibit the "sparklies" that screens with gain tend to have. But you not only need ambient light control, your projector must also have adequate brightness for the image size contemplated. LCOS projectors are somewhat light-challenged and that means if used with a unity gain screen the image size will need to be modest.
I had tried out the HD Pro 1.1 and 0.9 and both exhibited sparkles, although much fewer on the 0.9 and most would not find it objectionable. I now have the Stewart StudioTek 100 and it's overall superior to the other two screens, but you need a black hole for it (which I have). The ST100 has notably better off-axis viewing too.

As far as brightness, I'm viewing on 2:35 screen at 108" wide with my JVC RS4810 iris at -3 with just 450 hours on the lamp. I'm at 11.8 ftL right now which is actually brighter than I probably prefer, so I should be good for a while with this lamp. With 16:9 content, I'm at -8 with 12.3 ftL.

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I had tried out the HD Pro 1.1 and 0.9 and both exhibited sparkles, although much fewer on the 0.9 and most would not find it objectionable. I now have the Stewart StudioTek 100 and it's overall superior to the other two screens, but you need a black hole for it (which I have). The ST100 has notably better off-axis viewing too.

As far as brightness, I'm viewing on 2:35 screen at 108" wide with my JVC RS4810 iris at -3 with just 450 hours on the lamp. I'm at 11.8 ftL right now which is actually brighter than I probably prefer, so I should be good for a while with this lamp. With 16:9 content, I'm at -8 with 12.3 ftL.

With the StudioTek 130 G3 ( which I have ) you won't light up your room as much, as with the StudioTek 100. You really do need a " black hole " of a room to get the best out of the 100. I virtually never see artifacts with my StudioTek 130, except rarely in the brightest of scenes - and I'm watching a 3 chip DLP on a 128" diagonal 2.35:1 screen from 12 1/2 feet.

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Your ST130 G3 has to be pretty darn bright though.

When I had the HD Pro 1.1 (which Jeff Meier measured at a 1.18 gain on-axis) it was very evident just how much brighter it was compared to the HD Pro 0.9 and ST100. I imagine I could have stretched out my lamp for a while on it, but the sparkles were too strong from my taste. I also found even after pro calibration on the 1.1 the color was not quite as good compared to the other two screens which are more color neutral.
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I haven't done the switch yet and not sure I will. Off axis viewing isn't a concern in my theater as it's only 11 feet wide. I'm sure the ST100 is better in some areas then the ST130 but nothing about the ST130 annoys me. Reason I started this thread was because I have a 100" diagonal 16X9 screen with the 3.5" frame and was thinking of going to a 106" screen with the thinner frame they offer. I still may go bigger on the screen at some point but it would depend on what projector I have at that time which material I would go with. My projector sits 19' from screen and if I have something along the lines of a Jvc then I would stick with the ST130. If I have something with more brightness like the Sony VW600 4K machine then a decision would be in order.

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same to me,My projector sits 19' from screen and if I have something along the lines of a Jvc then I would stick with the ST130. If I have something with more brightness [IMG]http://*******/Ffva1z[/IMG][IMG]http://*******/Ffva1z[/IMG]like the Sony VW600 4K machine then a decision would be in order.
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Im caught up in this dilemma at the moment!

Can’t decide between these two reference screens for my dedicated room. Reading positive comments about the ST100 in the right environment is making me lean to this screen, but not sure if my room is adequate. Will try to post pics later...

The room has black ceilings, and very dark grey walls (BM Kendall Charcoal LRV 13), and medium-dark grey carpet. I can control most ambient light, except that I will be flanking my front wall plane with a set of piano black speakers. There will be a piano black center speaker below the screen. Craig’s comment above that the St130 does not emit as much light into the room makes me wonder if this is the better choice, given I would have reflections off the speakers.

My projector is the Sony VPL-vw500es (same as vw600es) which I read outputs a lot of light so perhaps this would over compensate for the St100 shortcomings on absorbing ambient light?

Room is 15ft’ x 18.5’ and seating will be around 10’ so don’t think I have an issue with light output from viewing angles.
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Here's a pic of my "bat cave" with a 130" diagonal Stewart StudioTek 100 reference screen.
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Scanido, your setup looks great! Do you have anymore pictures of your theater room? I'm debating between scope and widescreen formats.
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Scanido, your setup looks great! Do you have anymore pictures of your theater room? I'm debating between scope and widescreen formats.
Here's a shot of my theatre.

StudioTek100 looks amazing with my older now Sony VW500ES projector. I intially had reservations on the brightness and performance of the screen over the ST130, but after experiencing it in my room, which is not blacked out by any means and has black gloss speakers around the screen, I am really satisfied with the ST100. Highly recommended.

BTW, I had to go cinemascope with the layout of my room. I would have preferred 16x9 floor to ceiling if i had a choice, but you cant go wrong with the ultrawide.
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Thanks for the update! Your theater looks really nice and clean! Complements from a fellow audiophile on giving speakers a priority and breathing room in a theater room. I know a lot of theater purist prefer to have speakers behind the screen for the cleanest theater look.
I'm working on a similar setup - 3 short stacks of components up front, center channel over them. As far as screen, I hear you - I'm leaning towards going 16:9 for IMAX content and an occasional sports event. It will be mainly used for movies, but I tested 16:9 content within a scope area and it's just too small. In my room, i'm limited by width rather than height.
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