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Craig I'm looking forward to seeing the Neve sample you are sending. I thought I was just about decided to order an AT screen but after looking at samples tonight of ST100 and ST130 I really wish for that brightness and nicer surface compared to AT weave, and I see that Neve pricing makes it a great value compared to the higher end Stewart materials. I basically have to choose between a very high picture quality and brightness with Stewart Neve, and keep living with the audio compromise of center channel not ideally placed behind screen, or choose the AT screen for perfect front stage audio placement but lower brightness and likely lower PQ. Tough decision.

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Craig I'm looking forward to seeing the Neve sample you are sending. I thought I was just about decided to order an AT screen but after looking at samples tonight of ST100 and ST130 I really wish for that brightness and nicer surface compared to AT weave, and I see that Neve pricing makes it a great value compared to the higher end Stewart materials. I basically have to choose between a very high picture quality and brightness with Stewart Neve, and keep living with the audio compromise of center channel not ideally placed behind screen, or choose the AT screen for perfect front stage audio placement but lower brightness and likely lower PQ. Tough decision.



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I went with the higher picture quality, and it shows with 4K !


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I received my Neve material sample (that was fast @Craig Peer , thanks!) and have been testing it out. I have to say this is a gorgeous material! Super smooth surface with almost no texture, significantly brighter than my Silver Ticket white that is rated at 1.1, much better skin tones, more pleasing and brighter colors. The Silver Ticket has a colder bluish bias that you may not notice until you have a top notch material from Stewart to compare. With the Neve it's as if a grayish-bluish viel has been lifted from the image and it is more alive.

Now I have to decide, Stewart Neve screen with center channel above or below, vs. Seymour XD AT with center channel ideally placed behind, plus the benefit of custom sizing and aspect ratio and magnetic masking panels. I'm really torn, both choices have pros and cons.

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I received my Neve material sample (that was fast @Craig Peer , thanks!) and have been testing it out. I have to say this is a gorgeous material! Super smooth surface with almost no texture, significantly brighter than my Silver Ticket white that is rated at 1.1, much better skin tones, more pleasing and brighter colors. The Silver Ticket has a colder bluish bias that you may not notice until you have a top notch material from Stewart to compare. With the Neve it's as if a grayish-bluish viel has been lifted from the image and it is more alive.

Now I have to decide, Stewart Neve screen with center channel above or below, vs. Seymour XD AT with center channel ideally placed behind, plus the benefit of custom sizing and aspect ratio and magnetic masking panels. I'm really torn, both choices have pros and cons.

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Well, here are more screen shots on mine - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post59162930
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I received my Neve material sample (that was fast @Craig Peer , thanks!) and have been testing it out. I have to say this is a gorgeous material! Super smooth surface with almost no texture, significantly brighter than my Silver Ticket white that is rated at 1.1, much better skin tones, more pleasing and brighter colors. The Silver Ticket has a colder bluish bias that you may not notice until you have a top notch material from Stewart to compare. With the Neve it's as if a grayish-bluish viel has been lifted from the image and it is more alive.

Now I have to decide, Stewart Neve screen with center channel above or below, vs. Seymour XD AT with center channel ideally placed behind, plus the benefit of custom sizing and aspect ratio and magnetic masking panels. I'm really torn, both choices have pros and cons.

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I have my center channel below the screen and it sounds completely natural to me. And don't get me started on the Cima Neve picture... Just amazing! I just finished adding some more black velvet to the right side of my room and the picture quality now is just breathtaking! I was watching War for the Planet of the Apes last night and the brights were super bright, the darks were super dark, there was amazing shadow detail, colors pop and are lush. Just a great screen!
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Well, here are more screen shots on mine - https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post59162930
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I have my center channel below the screen and it sounds completely natural to me. And don't get me started on the Cima Neve picture... Just amazing! I just finished adding some more black velvet to the right side of my room and the picture quality now is just breathtaking! I was watching War for the Planet of the Apes last night and the brights were super bright, the darks were super dark, there was amazing shadow detail, colors pop and are lush. Just a great screen!
This is nice to read! Just looking at the small sample, I can imagine seeing what you describe.

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I have my center channel below the screen and it sounds completely natural to me. And don't get me started on the Cima Neve picture... Just amazing! I just finished adding some more black velvet to the right side of my room and the picture quality now is just breathtaking! I was watching War for the Planet of the Apes last night and the brights were super bright, the darks were super dark, there was amazing shadow detail, colors pop and are lush. Just a great screen!
BTW love your theater! How high above the floor does your image start? And what is your viewing distance from that 115" 2.35:1 Neve screen?

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BTW love your theater! How high above the floor does your image start? And what is your viewing distance from that 115" 2.35:1 Neve screen?

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Thanks! The bottom of the screen is 33" off the floor, and I sit back about 10 feet from the screen. I could stand to be a little bit closer, but I found this to be the sweet spot for audio and the viewing angle is just about right as well.
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Thanks! The bottom of the screen is 33" off the floor, and I sit back about 10 feet from the screen. I could stand to be a little bit closer, but I found this to be the sweet spot for audio and the viewing angle is just about right as well.
Mine are a bit lower. My 2.35:1 StudioTek 130 128" diagonal screen is 20" off the floor, and my 122" diagonal 16:9 Cima Neve is 17" off the floor. About the same seating distance though.
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Thanks! The bottom of the screen is 33" off the floor, and I sit back about 10 feet from the screen. I could stand to be a little bit closer, but I found this to be the sweet spot for audio and the viewing angle is just about right as well.
The nice thing about your screen height above floor is it puts your center channel at a good height, so you are getting good integration. I've been running a really big screen and my center had to be low on a 12" stand, and while it was not bad it was not as convincing as phantom center. I actually prefer the sound quality of phantom with my Chane A5.4's toed in aggressively, it is excellent in the center seat which is the only one that matters at my house (my wife thinks the side seats still sound fine to her non-discriminating ear).

If I go with the Cima Neve I'll be doing the 165" diagonal screen and would keep using phantom center as I have been, and would need to DIY masking for my Constant Image Area sizes (144" wide for scope, 124" wide for 1.85, the entire screen for Avatar style films). But if I choose Seymour XD I'll have a third Chane tower ideally placed behind, and I would need to scale my image down to 136" to pick up enough brightness with the lower gain AT material. Optimize front stage audio or optimize picture size, brightness, and quality. Two great choices. I just need to get off the fence and pick one

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A short review of my new Stewart Cima Neve screen

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Thanks! The bottom of the screen is 33" off the floor, and I sit back about 10 feet from the screen. I could stand to be a little bit closer, but I found this to be the sweet spot for audio and the viewing angle is just about right as well.


The bottom of our screen is 28” off the floor and we’re the same distance back from a 100” screen. For us this is the sweet spot for audio and viewing angle in our room.


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I do have my center channel speaker above the screen, which is why I can have my screen(s) lower.
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