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rhale64L7 09-17-2014 02:22 PM

A short review of my new Stewart Cima Neve screen
 
First off I want to thank Craig Peer for recommending this screen. I bought my Jvc 4810 from him and now this screen. He is very pleasant to talk to. And he said I would notice a difference. I was skeptical. I was not prepared for the difference I'm seeing.

Ok I recieved my screen yesterday. Took about 2 hours to unpack and hang. Very easy to do. It is very well packed. Much better than my dalite cinema contour was.

Some background. I have never owned a 2.35 screen before and to be honest have never read much about them. I always liked the way they looked in magazines though. So I decided when I had to replace my screen I was going to A) go larger 115" and B) go 2.35 from 16×9. I never thought a screen to be that important. I thought the image looked good on a sheet. A little better on my old cinema contour screen material from Dalite. But now I will admit I was extremely wrong.

Let me get all this out of the way. I have a Jvc 4810 isf calibrated by zombie10k. The throw is 16'7" this in a bat cave. The projector according to Zombie10k was an extremely good sample according to him. He said it has great focus and convergence across the screen. I dont own any light meters or calibration equipment. I have considered it however.

Ok now for the good stuff. I got it hung and set my zoom and focus. Then I popped in Transformers and I wasn't prepared for the difference between this and my old cinema contour screen. It was like going to hd from sd all over again. Everything is so much clearer. And so much more focused. I could now actually focus my projector much better because there was that much more detail in the image.

You can tell the gain is also higher in the neve material. It wont do good in ambient light however. That is very obvious. Even when I dim my lights you can tell it would not work.

The screen texture is very smooth. I don't notice any texture at all at 10' distance.

I just can't imagine any screen looking better than this. The image really pops off the screen. The objects on the screen look so real. The new screen is actually more of a difference than going from my old Jvc rs1x to the 4810, by a lot. Its not even close.

But anyway just wanted to tell anybody considering a new screen should definitely put this screen at the top of their list. I am glad I did. Thanks again Craig. I really appreciate it.

DavidHir 09-17-2014 06:35 PM

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Sounds great. I love my Stewart ST100 and prefer it over the Da-Lite HD Progressive. Do you keep in mind though your projector has to be re-calibrated when you change screens.

rhale64L7 09-17-2014 06:44 PM

Yes I know. I did go in and check all the usual contrast, brightness cant check color for some reason the blue filter is so far out I cant even adjust without proper equipment. It looks real good though.

I actually was considering the Dalite hd pro .9 but Craig talked me into this. I am very glad he did. I wanted a little gain for 3d which I actually like. My son hates it but I prefer it. I guess my brain works in 3d. ;)

yash 09-17-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 (Post 27503298)
Yes I know. I did go in and check all the usual contrast, brightness cant check color for some reason the blue filter is so far out I cant even adjust without proper equipment. It looks real good though.

I actually was considering the Dalite hd pro .9 but Craig talked me into this. I am very glad he did. I wanted a little gain for 3d which I actually like. My son hates it but I prefer it. I guess my brain works in 3d. ;)

I totally agree with the above review on Cima Neve. When I brought my Sony HW55ES earlier this year from Craig, he recommended Cima Neve screen and I have been very happy with the results. Prior to that I had seen a wall painted screen at my friend's home and some other screens at local BestBuy but I Cima Neve has worked out well for me in my basement theater. Prior to the projector I had a 64" Pioneer RPTV and the projector-screen combo blows away the PQ of my TV.

Frohlich 09-17-2014 07:20 PM

Glad you are so happy with your new screen. I built my HT room just about two years ago and bought my first projector and screen through AV science as well. They recommended the Stewart Cima screen and I think the "cima" line was new to the market so I hadn't heard much about them. I looked for reviews and/or feedback but I couldn't find any. I am glad I listened to their recommendation and I have been very happy with it the last couple of years ....have had zero thoughts of "upgrading" unless I go to a bigger size..in which case I would just stick with Cima and order a bigger size.

Tom899 09-18-2014 06:02 AM

Good review. I'm also considering this same screen after talking to Craig. I'm in a basement with no windows and complete light controlled. The room size is about 37' x 34' (1200 sq. ft.), I'll call it a media room. Seating distance will be about 15'. When I'm watching movies all lights will be off. When I have a few people over for sports viewing a light or two might be on but they will be dim, indirect, and 20' to 30' away. Should I still consider this screen, will these dim indirect lights wash out the screen?

DavidHir 09-18-2014 08:11 AM

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Your greyscale and color gamut will change quite a bit too changing screens. I think the Stewart was a wise choice especially factoring in 3D.

Craig Peer 09-18-2014 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom899 (Post 27512922)
Good review. I'm also considering this same screen after talking to Craig. I'm in a basement with no windows and complete light controlled. The room size is about 37' x 34' (1200 sq. ft.), I'll call it a media room. Seating distance will be about 15'. When I'm watching movies all lights will be off. When I have a few people over for sports viewing a light or two might be on but they will be dim, indirect, and 20' to 30' away. Should I still consider this screen, will these dim indirect lights wash out the screen?


Tom, when you watch sports with some lights on, any screen will wash out at least a little - even my Firehawk I had prior to the Cima Neve. You can compensate by using high lamp. It's all about trade offs, and I'm certainly happy I switched to the Neve. A little indirect lighting on ( using dimmers ) to see what we are eating during some HDTV shows doesn't compromise the picture on my Neve any more than it did on the Firehawk, really.


Thanks for the screen feedback guys! :) I'm glad you are as happy with your Neve screens as I am with mine.

Tom899 09-18-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 27520738)
Tom, when you watch sports with some lights on, any screen will wash out at least a little - even my Firehawk I had prior to the Cima Neve. You can compensate by using high lamp. It's all about trade offs, and I'm certainly happy I switched to the Neve. A little indirect lighting on ( using dimmers ) to see what we are eating during some HDTV shows doesn't compromise the picture on my Neve any more than it did on the Firehawk, really.


Thanks for the screen feedback guys! :) I'm glad you are as happy with your Neve screens as I am with mine.


Thanks Craig, good to know and gives me some reassurance.

rhale64L7 10-02-2014 08:48 AM

I should add that the reason I noticed a difference between the two screens is my recessed lighting is now right above the edges of my screen. The new screen is much wider than my old. So a little light will not wash out the screen.

Craig Peer 12-26-2017 05:43 PM

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I'm still loving my Cima Neve. In fact, Dunkirk on 4K Blu-ray looked amazing on my 122" diagonal 16:9 Cima Neve. Great screen for a 4K projector !

Balthezor 12-26-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 55383914)

Craig, what projector is this?

Craig Peer 12-26-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Balthezor (Post 55383930)
Craig, what projector is this?

The JVC RS4500.

Craig Peer 01-12-2018 10:12 AM

Here are some screen shots of my Cima Neve with overhead lighting on in my theater ( it's brighter than it looks in there - hard to photograph ). Even though this is a white screen, if you can keep direct lighting off the screen, it still looks great for HDTV. Of course movies look even better with the lights off.

b744 04-15-2018 03:45 AM

Hi, I use FH 4G with JVC RS56, but recently upgraded to JVC X990R. With brigther picture I can no longer tolerate
That annoying sparkle or texture in brightnscene of FHG4 anymore. I will miss its deep black and great contrast and color, though.

My room light control is excellent. Ceiling velvet black for only 4’ from screen, the rest is off-white paint. Walls are
in dark color and pretty far away.

So now my question is, Cima Neve with 1.1 gain or ST100 this time ?

I do prefer some gain for HDR, but I am not sure will Cima Neve has
That kind of sparkling similar to FhG4 or not to make 1.1 gain.
I prefer gain free grain free rather than a gain with grain.

One advantage of ST100 is that I can keep the Frame and order just the ST100 fabric


Thank you.
The current siE is 2.35 153” or 123” equivalent for 16:9 materials.

Craig Peer 04-15-2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by b744 (Post 56037406)
Hi, I use FH 4G with JVC RS56, but recently upgraded to JVC X990R. With brigther picture I can no longer
That annoying sparkle or texture in brightnscene of FHG4 anymore. I will miss its deep black and great contrast and color, though.

My room is light control is excellent. Ceiling velvet black only 4’ from screen, the rest is off white paint. Wall in dark color and pretty far away.

So now my question is, Cima Neve with 1.1 gain or ST100 this time ?

I do prefer some gain for HDR, but I am not sure will Cima Neve has
That kind of sparkling similar to FhG4 or not to make 1.1 gain.
I prefer gain free grain free rather than a gain with grain.

One advantage of ST100 is that I can keep the Frame and order just the ST100 fabric


Thank you.
The current siE is 2.35 153” or 123” equivalent for 16:9 materials.

Get some screen samples of each. I don't see sparkling with my Cima Neve even watching at 34 foot lamberts with 4K HDR.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8d&oe=5B68EDE4

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a2&oe=5B6EFB86

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...45&oe=5B753570

b744 04-16-2018 02:49 AM

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Thank you.
I just write to Stewart, asking for their advise and screen samples.
here is my room. with light off it is completely dark. but with light colours surfaces around.
side walls are quite far away, carpet were mostly blocked by audio equipments which are black mostly.
So I hope matte white would work. Sorry I don't know why the photo is upside down. I looked normal on
computer.

Craig Peer 04-30-2018 02:25 PM

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A few screen shots of the 4K Blu-ray " Starship Troopers " on my Cime Neve screen -

rhale64L7 04-30-2018 05:48 PM

Wow! Looks awesome Craig. What projector?

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Craig Peer 05-01-2018 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 (Post 56119416)
Wow! Looks awesome Craig. What projector?

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The JVC RS4500. While " Starship Troopers " on 4K Blu-ray isn't the best looking 4K disc by any means ( due to it's age and film grain ), it does have moments of brilliance picture wise !

Craig Peer 05-01-2018 12:41 PM

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Here are a few more screen shots of " Starship Troopers " 4K Blu-ray on the Cima Neve screen, with the RS4500 projector -

rhale64L7 05-02-2018 05:09 AM

Wow! That looks very impressive. I can't afford that projector. I hope mine looks close. I will take 80% of that. I am sure in real life that looks very nice.

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Craig Peer 05-02-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rhale64L7 (Post 56126584)
Wow! That looks very impressive. I can't afford that projector. I hope mine looks close. I will take 80% of that. I am sure in real life that looks very nice.

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I think the Blu-ray series " The Pacific " was the first thing I watched on my Cima Neve after kicking my Da-Lite HCCV screen to the curb, and the increase in sharpness and detail was easily noticeable ! It looks even better with the RS4500 now !

bronxkid 05-28-2018 02:02 PM

Those pictures look amazing. I'm thinking of pairing the Cima Neve with JVC dla-x790. Not sure if my picture quality will come close to that but I hope it's a good combination.

Craig Peer 05-29-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bronxkid (Post 56255662)
Those pictures look amazing. I'm thinking of pairing the Cima Neve with JVC dla-x790. Not sure if my picture quality will come close to that but I hope it's a good combination.

It would be an excellent combination.

Craig Peer 05-07-2019 04:29 PM

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I can't believe it's been over 5 1/2 years since I bought my 122" 16:9 Cima Neve screen. I love it as much now as when I first got it. It's been ( and is ) one great screen !!

howiee 05-10-2019 05:38 AM

Looks great! If I don't go for an AT screen, a Neve is at the top of the list.

Craig Peer 05-10-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by howiee (Post 58026366)
Looks great! If I don't go for an AT screen, a Neve is at the top of the list.

You can't beat the price on them for a top screen either ! :)

satfam 05-17-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 58014012)
I can't believe it's been over 5 1/2 years since I bought my 122" 16:9 Cima Neve screen. I love it as much now as when I first got it. It's been ( and is ) one great screen !!

What are the frame dimensions on your 122” 16:9 screen? Thanks.

m0j0 05-22-2019 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig Peer (Post 58014012)
I can't believe it's been over 5 1/2 years since I bought my 122" 16:9 Cima Neve screen. I love it as much now as when I first got it. It's been ( and is ) one great screen !!


I upgraded my projector and now thinking of upgrading my screen. I currently have a Silver Ticket 110" 16x9 screen but considering a 115" 2.35:1 Stewart Cima Neve screen. What is the surface texture like on your CIMA? I feel like the Silver Ticket surface texture is perhaps becoming a limiting factor now for me since upgrading my projector (upgraded from an Optoma UHD60 to a Sony 695ES).


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