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I saw the price in the 110" Aeon with Cinegrey was more expensive than the 120" Aeon with Cinegrey. Weird.
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I saw the price in the 110" Aeon with Cinegrey was more expensive than the 120" Aeon with Cinegrey. Weird.
Where? On Amazon, today, the 120" is $100 more than the 110". Yesterday on Amazon the 120" was $59 more. On the Elite Shop the 120" was, and still is, $20 more. Never saw the 110" actually more than the 120" on either site.

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Where? On Amazon, today, the 120" is $100 more than the 110". Yesterday on Amazon the 120" was $59 more. On the Elite Shop the 120" was, and still is, $20 more. Never saw the 110" actually more than the 120" on either site.
It was listed as more on Amazon last week. I assumed it was a mistake when I saw it. It looks like it has been rectified.
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It was listed as more on Amazon last week. I assumed it was a mistake when I saw it. It looks like it has been rectified.
Ah ok. When I saw that it was cheaper on Amazon, but direct from Elite, than it was on Elite's shop, I thought that was a mistake too. It's since been changed, but I got in before thankfully.

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My 120" Aeon with CineGrey 3D was just delivered. I'll update with pics and impressions when I'm able to get to setting it up. May not be tonight.

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Sounds good, can't wait

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Looks like we have another Elite Screens customer go missing in action after a purchase.

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Looks like we have another Elite Screens missing in action customer.
Man really... If it were me, with all my obligations, it might be the weekend before I posted anything..patience...
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Lol. Not MIA. Just tough with work and school. When I get home it isn't late, late, but starting to drill and stuff when my neighbor has a newborn at like 8:30pm isn't the the most considerate thing I could do.

I don't have classes on Friday, so I'll get home at a human hour of 6:15pm. If I don't do it tomorrow, it will definitely be early Saturday. I'm more anxious to see what I bought than you guys are, trust me lol. Life just gets in the way of the things that you really want to do a lot of the time.

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Got the screen up yesterday. It was a scary installation lol. You have to really pull the fabric a lot to get it on the Velcro on the back. Was praying the whole time that it didn't rip. The velvet border was actually the easiest part of the whole installation. Going in that was the part I was worried most about.

Didn't put the lights on yet. The wife thinks it looks good now and thinks the lights will make it look cheap. I told her I'd hold off for now and told her to sleep on it lol.

In terms of the screen performance, it is everything I wanted. It does a great job of preserving contrast in ambient light. Better still, it looks fantastic with the lights out. The room is considerably darker with this screen than with my da lite HP screen.

There is no hotspotting and I have seen no sparkle. I have a benq w1070 mounted about 10' 6" from a 120" screen.

In my observation this material performs very similarly to the SI Slate. This material is a darker gray though, which I prefer. Keep in mind that I'm basing this on a sample of the slate and have not seen a full screen.

Black's look pretty much black now as opposed to dark gray on my other screen. Colors pop a bit more as well. Overall image is a bit punchier but obviously a little less bright too. The hit to brightness is less noticeable than the increase in preserved contrast though so I'm more than happy with the tradeoff.

The material is a very smooth material and I can see no texture of any sort in the image.

Overall I'm extremely satisfied with the screen. We'll if I get this lights on lol. I'll add pictures in my next post.

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Here a few pics. It's hard to capture what it looks like in real life though with my cell camera.

Destiny PS4 pics show the screen with overhead can lights on.There are 4 lights total and all bright LED bulbs. It's coming out with a yellow tinge in the pictures that isn't there in real life. Wanted to try and show a picture with some blacks in it to show how the screen keeps them from washing out too bad even with full overhead lights.

The pics of the Giants game are with the blinds open and sunlight coming in from the right side of the screen.
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Is that a 16:9 screen or a 2:35:1 screen? That first Giants pic DID it for me. Lol. Screen looks very good. I'm torn at this point because I sold my 120" Black Diamond and picked up a 106" Slate screen. Slate screen looks wonderful however I am missing the size of a larger screen.

I'm now looking at possibly getting a 113" Stewart Firehawk screen or a 120" Aeon screen with LED kit. Oh decisions, decisions.

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Is that a 16:9 screen or a 2:39 screen? That first Giants pic DID it for me. Lol. Screen looks very good. I'm torn at this point because I sold my 120" Black Diamond and picked up a 106" Slate screen. Slate screen looks wonderful however I am missing the size of a larger screen.

I'm now looking at possibly getting a 113" Stewart Firehawk screen or a 120" Aeon screen with LED kit. Oh decisions, decisions.
It's 16:9.

It's very much like the slate, so not sure you are missing anything. It's just a slightly darker gray. Other than that, the material looks and feels identical to be honest.

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It's 16:9.

It's very much like the slate, so not sure you are missing anything. It's just a slightly darker gray. Other than that, the material looks and feels identical to be honest.
Ohhhhhh you are tempting me. What projector are you using? And are you using high lamp or low lamp mode?
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Ohhhhhh you are tempting me. What projector are you using? And are you using high lamp or low lamp mode?
BenQ W1070. Smart Eco mode.

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BenQ W1070. Smart Eco mode.
See this is my fear. The large 120" and up ALR screens look very good when they are getting hit with around 2000 lumens. But when a 120" alr screen is being used with below 2000 lumens it starts to look dim to my eyes.

I love what I'm seeing from my Sony HW40es thus far. But it could not get the job done with a 120" Black Diamond. I'm worried brightness will take a sizable hit with the 120" Aeon screen too. But going from a 106" Slate to a 110" Aeon screen will not be worth the gamble. Although the Cinegrey 3d is lighter than the Black Diamond material so the 120" Aeon with Cinegrey 3d might work for me.

I had a look at the Firehawk today. It's a very nice screen but not worth the coin in my opinion. Not when there are much cheaper options like the Cinegrey material available. I'm sure the Firehawk stood out ten years ago. But technology and cheaper yet comparable materials have caught up to it nowadays.
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See this is my fear. The large 120" and up ALR screens look very good when they are getting hit with around 2000 lumens. But when a 120" alr screen is being used with below 2000 lumens it starts to look dim to my eyes.

I love what I'm seeing from my Sony HW40es thus far. But it could not get the job done with a 120" Black Diamond. I'm worried brightness will take a sizable hit with the 120" Aeon screen too. But going from a 106" Slate to a 110" Aeon screen will not be worth the gamble. Although the Cinegrey 3d is lighter than the Black Diamond material so the 120" Aeon with Cinegrey 3d might work for me.

I had a look at the Firehawk today. It's a very nice screen but not worth the coin in my opinion. Not when there are much cheaper options like the Cinegrey material available. I'm sure the Firehawk stood out ten years ago. But technology and cheaper yet comparable materials have caught up to it nowadays.
My 1070 is calibrated so it was around 1700 lumens when the bulb was new. I have 3600 hrs on the bulb now. It's plenty bright to me.

Was your BD the 1.4 gain or .8 gain?

If you didn't have the Slate, I'd recommend the Aeon over the Slate, because it's the same screen and cheaper, but since you have the Slate already, I wouldn't go crazy and switch.

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My 1070 is calibrated so it was around 1700 lumens when the bulb was new. I have 3600 hrs on the bulb now. It's plenty bright to me.

Was your BD the 1.4 gain or .8 gain?

If you didn't have the Slate, I'd recommend the Aeon over the Slate, because it's the same screen and cheaper, but since you have the Slate already, I wouldn't go crazy and switch.
My BD screen was the 1.4 gain and it was very dark. I can't image how dark the .8 gain is. Curiosity got the best of me today so I went ahead and ordered the 120" Aeon with Cinegrey 3D screen today. I'm really excited and hope it's close to the performance of the Slate screen. If it is, I will consider this screen a home run.

If I decide to keep it, I will purchase the LED kit for it next week. I pray that assembly is not too hard with this screen. The one thing I really liked about the Slate is that it came as a one piece item with no assembly required.
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I'm noticing that everyone seems to use the optional velvet border. Does the screen not look as good going with the Zero Edge look?
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I'm noticing that everyone seems to use the optional velvet border. Does the screen not look as good going with the Zero Edge look?
This was my question as well. I don't plan to use any velvet border at all with mine. I will take pics of it without the velvet border once I get mine set up. This video is what originally sold me on purchasing the Aeon Screen with Cinegrey 3D:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iX8CUVF5Ido

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This was my question as well. I don't plan to use any velvet border at all with mine.
How do you plan to handle the potential overscan? It's hard to get 100% alignment, down to the pixel level.
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I was keeping an open mind about not using the border, but issues with my projector made it necessary. I'm getting bowing at the top and bottom of my image now and the sides don't stretch far enough to left and right of the screen. Likely a result of using more zoom going from 110" to 120" without moving the pj placement. Very annoyed.

Aeon screen is beyond amazing, but enjoyment is marred considerably by this issue. Really don't want to remount (which may or may not work) or get a new projector, but probably my only options as the w1070 is way out of warranty.

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How do you plan to handle the potential overscan? It's hard to get 100% alignment, down to the pixel level.
My projector is currently mounted on a tripod so I'm pretty sure I can get the placement bang on for minimal light bleed. But if there is a little bleed on the screen it won't bother me one bit.

I like the borderless look and I feel that is what makes this screen stand out. So that is the look I will be going for.
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My projector is currently mounted on a tripod so I'm pretty sure I can get the placement bang on for minimal light bleed. But if there is a little bleed on the screen it won't bother me one bit.

I like the borderless look and I feel that is what makes this screen stand out. So that is the look I will be going for.
Any light bleed would appear on the wall behind the screen, like a border.
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I was keeping an open mind about not using the border, but issues with my projector made it necessary. I'm getting bowing at the top and bottom of my image now and the sides don't stretch far enough to left and right of the screen. Likely a result of using more zoom going from 110" to 120" without moving the pj placement. Very annoyed.

Aeon screen is beyond amazing, but enjoyment is marred considerably by this issue. Really don't want to remount (which may or may not work) or get a new projector, but probably my only options as the w1070 is way out of warranty.
Sorry to hear this. I have my projector mounted on a tripod right now so changing image size is no issue for me. Your comments have me completely sold on the Aeon screen.I went and purchased the LED kit for it this morning.
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Sorry to hear this. I have my projector mounted on a tripod right now so changing image size is no issue for me. Your comments have me completely sold on the Aeon screen.I went and purchased the LED kit for it this morning.
Congrats man. I hope you love it. I think you will.

Can you return your slate?

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Any light bleed would appear on the wall behind the screen, like a border.
I'm confident I won't have that issue. I have not had it with any of the Screens I've owned. And neither my screen location nor my projector location is a permanent mount. So I can move both of them around as needed.
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Congrats man. I hope you love it. I think you will.

Can you return your slate?
Yes I can. I'm going to wait till the Aeon screen gets here to compare the two. Then I will most likely return or sell the Slate screen next week.

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I'm confident I won't have that issue. I have not had it with any of the Screens I've owned. And neither my screen location nor my projector location is a permanent mount. So I can move both of them around as needed.
It's not an issue with most screens as they have a black velvet border specifically meant to mask the light bleed.

With a borderless screen, it's almost impossible to line up the projector right down to the pixel on all 4 edges. The motorized zoom and lens shift motors on my Panasonic AE8000U and JVC X30and are far too coarse for single pixel adjustments. However, if you're using a light strip that would for sure mask the light bleed.

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looks good, I will get cinegray 3D or cinegray 5D, did you compare which one it's better on lot of cell light,still thinking 110or 120",can you take some video to YouTube. Thanks
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