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As for the overall appearance of the v6 vs the Studiotek, the neutral D65 point of the v6 is within 98% of the ST100.


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That is great, i m trying to buy the 3mx2m since i want a 130inch 16:9 , i have an elite screen frame so ill attach it to that.

I m sorry to ask u here but is it possible to pay with a credit card ? We dont have paypal in my country and bank transfer is stopped at the moment, my only way to pay is direct credit card payment.

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That is great, i m trying to buy the 3mx2m since i want a 130inch 16:9 , i have an elite screen frame so ill attach it to that.

I m sorry to ask u here but is it possible to pay with a credit card ? We dont have paypal in my country and bank transfer is stopped at the moment, my only way to pay is direct credit card payment.
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That is great, i m trying to buy the 3mx2m since i want a 130inch 16:9 , i have an elite screen frame so ill attach it to that.

I m sorry to ask u here but is it possible to pay with a credit card ? We dont have paypal in my country and bank transfer is stopped at the moment, my only way to pay is direct credit card payment.
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@Lygren i m not sure u are receiving my email , can u check plz so we can see if we can find a way to purchase the V6.

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I may have missed it, but I cannot find the recommended minimum placement distance for the speakers the screen surface.

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I'm looking at this screen and comparing with Seymour UF since my distance from screen will be at 9 feet. I plan on going 120 inch wide scope to replace my 120 inch diag 16x9 silver ticket non-AT screen. How does this screen look with sony 45es projector since I do not have 4k projector right now and holding off til it becomes more affordable. Basically I just got a tower center channel to match my mains and this puts me to get AT screen.

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I may have missed it, but I cannot find the recommended minimum placement distance for the speakers the screen surface.

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Due to the very high acoustical transparency of this fabric there is really no requirement in terms of distance except one should always make sure to place the fabric outside the excursion zone of the drivers. Especially for subs, the drivers can travel quite far... At trade shows alongside Alcons Audio, we normally use about 5cm distance from the drivers, and a little more if we place those huge 18" high excursion drivers behind the screen due to the excessive SPL and thus room for cone movement.
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I'm looking at this screen and comparing with Seymour UF since my distance from screen will be at 9 feet. I plan on going 120 inch wide scope to replace my 120 inch diag 16x9 silver ticket non-AT screen. How does this screen look with sony 45es projector since I do not have 4k projector right now and holding off til it becomes more affordable. Basically I just got a tower center channel to match my mains and this puts me to get non-AT screen.
The v6 has been sold with a number of the Sony SXRD Full-HD projectors in the past and the combo works great. The high fill-rate of the HW45 makes it possible to sit quite close without being distracted by the pixel grid, making it a good match for the very finely textured v6. Good luck in choosing your new screen!
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Has anyone gone from Screen Research Clearpix 4K to Dreamscreen V6? Opinions?

I like the Clearpix 4K I have at the moment except for "seeing the screen" a bit too much in sky scenes at my ~8ft seating distance. Interested to hear opinions from anyone who has made the move.

Screen is a 16:9 Supreme ETC Mask with top / bottom masks. Anyone with direct experience of fitting the grip channels to the extrusion screen support sub-frame on this would be appreciated - I'd rather not take it off the wall to inspect first.
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The v6 has been sold with a number of the Sony SXRD Full-HD projectors in the past and the combo works great. The high fill-rate of the HW45 makes it possible to sit quite close without being distracted by the pixel grid, making it a good match for the very finely textured v6. Good luck in choosing your new screen!
Is there a price list somewhere? Trying to get info on 120 inch wide scope with frame. I'm assuming I need to get ahold of Mike or Craig on here?

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Is there a price list somewhere? Trying to get info on 120 inch wide scope with frame. I'm assuming I need to get ahold of Mike or Craig on here?
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I have a brand new 156”x 78” V6 material with the grip rails still in original packaging that I will be selling. I have decided not to use the V6 material and wait till the V7 comes out later this year. So if you're interested let me know. I have not yet put it in the classified section.

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I have a brand new 156”x 78” V6 material with the grip rails still in original packaging that I will be selling. I have decided not to use the V6 material and wait till the V7 comes out later this year. So if you're interested let me know. I have not yet put it in the classified section.

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Didn't realized there was new version. I'm not sure if your screen would work since the widest I can do is 120 inch based on my projector throw with max zoom (14 ft). And I've looked at other projectors for 4k in the future and based on same throw it appears I really can't get any wider than 120 inch for most part.

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Didn't realized there was new version. I'm not sure if your screen would work since the widest I can do is 120 inch based on my projector throw with max zoom (14 ft). And I've looked at other projectors for 4k in the future and based on same throw it appears I really can't get any wider than 120 inch for most part.
Well what I have is the raw material which means you can cut it down to any size you want. I also have the grip rails to attach the material to your frame. I built my own frame custom sized to fit my room.
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Well what I have is the raw material which means you can cut it down to any size you want. I also have the grip rails to attach the material to your frame. I built my own frame custom sized to fit my room.
Ah that make sense. But yeah I will need new frame since my existing frame is 120 inch diag 16x9. I'm going scope so I wouldn't be able to use my existing frame. Are dream screen frame sold separately anywhere? I could do wood DIY but problem is I do not own any cutting tools. lol

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Ah that make sense. But yeah I will need new frame since my existing frame is 120 inch diag 16x9. I'm going scope so I wouldn't be able to use my existing frame. Are dream screen frame sold separately anywhere? I could do wood DIY but problem is I do not own any cutting tools. lol


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Do they sell vertical masking as well for 16x9 movies on scope screen with the frame?

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Received my V6 on last month , the order came quickly from Norway and obvious is late for changing to V7, however the new info says the gain is minute and audio loss a bit higher than V6. So I keep the fabric and go for the change from non-AT scope 117”curve to flat 120”AT.

The build is a new Scope screen, slightly larger in size wood frame with eyelets and hangars just like the old one, so no need to use with supplied grip rails and tool.
The frame takes a lot less time to make than the old curve one so allow me more time to focus on the wall for the center speakers as I’ve no intention to move the two side main tower speakers behind the screen as there’re limited space for both of them.
The baffle wall is insulated with acoustic fiberglass panels covered with fabric.

To experiment a better center stage with broader audio dispersion especially movies dialog before I hang the new Screen , I add a pair of desk top with identical drivers to the left and right side of the center speaker separate by about 20 inches, the source come from the AVR pre-out and connect to an amplifier that feed the output through a Monoprice speakers selector which will balance the output and impedance of the two added speakers as one.

Now I’ve one decent size center speaker at ear level across the wall behind the Screen.

The speakers are set within ½” from the screen with the metal grilles removed as I think the Screen fabric is a good diffuser itself.
After I hang the Screen, first is to adjust the Projector images and the Panamorph Phoenix Lens to its best with No distortion ,then follow by the Pixels alignment, for the previous curve screen has caused some Chroma Abreaction on screen sides .
After the adjustment, I already notice the clarity and sharpness improve significantly from those grid patterns and those red and blue line are easier to converge than before.

Next is to run the AVR Audyssey for the sound system then play the early Dolby Atmos demo disc for the set up result.
After the audio calibration I heard the two add on speakers sound a bit harsh and recheck the mounting shelf and realize the speakers are ported at the back, lucky I can access to the back wall with ease and cut out a small opening to vent the port.

So rerun the Audyssey again and this time the demo disc Trailers sound amazing as if the screen is alive with a giant speaker.
The picture colors look a lot richer/sharper and brighter from side to side, the audio center clearly is louder and crisp like the music video Bailando is stunning.
Later, I watch a few chapters of my favorite BD collections to test out the dialog of some movies that usually are obscured by surround sound and as well test the picture quality for the 3D.
The result is so immersive and breathtaking as if I'm in a new HT. I hope I have made that change few years ago and now the V7 is here, however the V6 and Phoenix Lens have given a new life to the old projector usage , such that 4K upgrade is going to be postponed.
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I have ordered a sample of the V7 material. Let's hope its an obvious difference. I love my V6 I just want more brightness.
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How does the Dreamscreen v7 material compare with Seymour Screen Excellence Enlightor Neo? Pro/cons of each ?

It seems the Enlightor Neo was the highest reviewed and most recommended screen fitting the bill for acoustic transparency and non-visible structure (ie ability to sit close- 10 feet away in my theater).

However , it appears the Dreamscreen v7 gain is 0.93 and Enlightor Neo is only 0.80 ! Has anyone actually compared these screens with a light meter ?

For me, this is a significant difference. I plan to use a JVC RS4500 (without DCR lens) on a 2.40 screen that is 140” wide (152” diagonal). On high laser mode (2500 lumens calibrated), the difference in brightness between the two screens is 26.6 vs 30.4 fL !
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I have ordered a sample of the V7 material. Let's hope its an obvious difference. I love my V6 I just want more brightness.
Impressions when you get it pls!
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How does the Dreamscreen v7 material compare with Seymour Screen Excellence Enlightor Neo? Pro/cons of each ?

It seems the Enlightor Neo was the highest reviewed and most recommended screen fitting the bill for acoustic transparency and non-visible structure (ie ability to sit close- 10 feet away in my theater).

However , it appears the Dreamscreen v7 gain is 0.93 and Enlightor Neo is only 0.80 ! Has anyone actually compared these screens with a light meter ?

For me, this is a significant difference. I plan to use a JVC RS4500 (without DCR lens) on a 2.40 screen that is 140” wide (152” diagonal). On high laser mode (2500 lumens calibrated), the difference in brightness between the two screens is 26.6 vs 30.4 fL !


You should order the free samples of each fabric. That is what I did: DreamScreen (V6, not V7), Seymour NEO and XD, and Screen Innovations Maestro.

The SI material arrives today, but so far I am impressed with the V6 material. No in-room at seating distance comparisons yet, since I was waiting for the SI material.

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I also did receive my sample from Craig on AVS. Can't even see the weave from few feet and the black backing is nice. I did place the sample over my Klipsch horn/mid and it only reduced 2db at the most from 2khz to 20khz. Nice!

As far as gain, its hard to tell from sample between my non-AT silver ticket screen. The V6 gain is said to be .8 but it was actually measured by someone to be .84. Looks very close to my 1.0 gain silver ticket in brightness except with less blue push. Also nice!

The only thing is when standing up close between the non-AT screen and the V6 sample the sample text has more fuzzy/soft/blurry edges which I think is normal for AT material due to weave. But you can't see it at 10 feet which is my MLP distance.

So I'm still debating the size. I like the idea that AVS sells frames as well. Do they offer vertical masking for scope screens for 16x9 content? Or can you buy those separately?

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I also did receive my sample from Craig on AVS. Can't even see the weave from few feet and the black backing is nice. I did place the sample over my Klipsch horn/mid and it only reduced 2db at the most from 2khz to 20khz. Nice!



As far as gain, its hard to tell from sample between my non-AT silver ticket screen. The V6 gain is said to be .8 but it was actually measured by someone to be .84. Looks very close to my 1.0 gain silver ticket in brightness except with less blue push. Also nice!



The only thing is when standing up close between the non-AT screen and the V6 sample the sample text has more fuzzy/soft/blurry edges which I think is normal for AT material due to weave. But you can't see it at 10 feet which is my MLP distance.



So I'm still debating the size. I like the idea that AVS sells frames as well. Do they offer vertical masking for scope screens for 16x9 content? Or can you buy those separately?


They make a Dreamscreen MotoMask Pro to side mask 2.40 to 16:9. The problem is, the masks themselves are not acoustically transparent.

Which is a huge issue since I am sure AT is a top reason people look at v6 and v7. So unless your L and R speakers are really crowded centrally this solution won’t work for an AT setup.
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They make a Dreamscreen MotoMask Pro to side mask 2.40 to 16:9. The problem is, the masks themselves are not acoustically transparent.

Which is a huge issue since I am sure AT is a top reason people look at v6 and v7. So unless your L and R speakers are really crowded centrally this solution won’t work for an AT setup.
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I have AT electric masks on my Screen Research screen, and the fabric of the mask is very AT but isn't that dark at all, so the projector can still light up the fabric enough to make it stand out against a well treated screen wall.

I wonder if an optimal can be to get the LR just outside of the screen edge for many screen sizes, and have properly dark masks.
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They make a Dreamscreen MotoMask Pro to side mask 2.40 to 16:9. The problem is, the masks themselves are not acoustically transparent.

Which is a huge issue since I am sure AT is a top reason people look at v6 and v7. So unless your L and R speakers are really crowded centrally this solution won’t work for an AT setup.
Thanks. For some reason I assumed they had both at version with speaker grill and non-at with velvet like Seymour does with their options. Looks like I may have to build my own using dark black speaker grill cloth.

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I have AT electric masks on my Screen Research screen, and the fabric of the mask is very AT but isn't that dark at all, so the projector can still light up the fabric enough to make it stand out against a well treated screen wall.

I wonder if an optimal can be to get the LR just outside of the screen edge for many screen sizes, and have properly dark masks.
I have seen different speaker grill cloth materials and some are more darker/less see through than others. That's what I'm gonna do when I build my own if I can't get AT masks from AVS or anyone to go with frame. May not be as dark as velvet, but should be darker than just the black border on screen itself.

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Pictures are from iphone 7. Tried to take the individual screen sample pictures closer, but from the same distance away for each of them. First picture is all three together with V6 upper left, V7 upper right and Neo on bottom. Next are three pictures taken about 6" from each material. The surface of V6 and V7 looks the same. V7 is just brighter than V6, but also lower AT qualities. The Neo is laying on a black backing. As is V6 and V7 since they have a black backing built in. With image on screen, it is very clear that V7 has higher gain than Neo and V6, but it does come at a trade off in sound loss. To the eye, Neo and V6 looks the same gain.
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To my eye, up close, it looks like NEO has more gain than V6, but I didn’t have the black backing behind the NEO. I haven’t checked in the theater at seated distance yet, as this requires an assistant.

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To my eye, up close, it looks like NEO has more gain than V6, but I didn’t have the black backing behind the NEO. I haven’t checked in the theater at seated distance yet, as this requires an assistant.

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You need to use black backing behind the Neo, otherwise you will be picking up some gain from the screen behind it.
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To my eye, up close, it looks like NEO has more gain than V6, but I didn’t have the black backing behind the NEO. I haven’t checked in the theater at seated distance yet, as this requires an assistant.

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You need to use black backing behind the Neo, otherwise you will be picking up some gain from the screen behind it.
Sorry gents, I made a mistake, the Seymour material I have is Center Stage UF, not the NEO. I placed a black cloth behind it, and while it is a little darker, it still looks like a higher gain (whiter) than the DreamScreen V6 material. We will see when I hold it up to the screen at seated distance.

That said, the DreamScreen looks totally smooth even close up.

Any advice on what kind of black backing material to use for the test? Does it matter?

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Does anyone else have issues getting Seymour people to respond to emails. It's take them a week or so to respond if they respond. It's as if they don't want to sell. I think it might be better to order a Dreamweaver over here since I am at least a little closer. I tried both Chris and Jon and it's the same.

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Does anyone else have issues getting Seymour people to respond to emails. It's take them a week or so to respond if they respond. It's as if they don't want to sell. I think it might be better to order a Dreamweaver over here since I am at least a little closer. I tried both Chris and Jon and it's the same.

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Chris responded quickly to my last email , last week (within 24 hours). They are probably scrambling as the host of their website is having issues, such that their website has been down.
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