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Pics 28 Let there be light
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Please keep in mind I do not watch TV and movies under these high levels of ambient light like I'm showing in the aforementioned pictures. I'm doing this to show this screen's marvelous ability to retain a quality image under heavy amounts of ambient light. I have no need for 800 Lumen bulbs and such a high level of ambient light all the time, but I want everyone to see what this screen can do in both low and high amounts of ambient light.
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Pics 29 110" tv under heavy and moderate amount of ambient light.
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Pics 31 The money shot under heavy amount of ambient light. Notice solid black level contrasted with retention of color in gold MGM insignia. You will need to zoom in on the first picture to get the full effect of how solid the black levels are under heavy amount of ambient light in my room.
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Getting so excited just thinking about the screen right now that I don't want to go to work in the morning. I continue to wait for someone to pinch me and I wake up and this is all just a dream. I did not think this screen would be the answer to my front projector setup journey so I had already made plans to purchase a 85 inch Sony TV at the end of March. Thie performance of this screen has blown that plan away. So happy with the screen that I can't express it in words right now.
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This screen sounds interesting. Too bad its limited to such small sizes. I'm out.
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just curious, have you ever been able to compare it to a painted screen? I'm finally getting back to my screen after having an unsatisfactory viewing of The Ritual (lots of washed out shadows), and the last place I left my screen explorations was at the level of flat grey paint. I have a very light room but with good light control. I have a dynamic iris on my projector (Epson 3100), but it's just too aggrivating to use.

I really want to love DEA but in all seriousness, the website is horrible. Really, really horrible. The first few times I came across it, I thought it was a scam site. Even the photos / demos aren't that great - like there's one with someone's bare feet in it?! I've done a few websites (and I'm a professional photographer for architecture + interiors) and part of me wants to redesign it for him, top to bottom, in exchange for a screen! That being said, the one time I emailed him the formatting of the response was almost as illegible as the site... it breaks my heart because everything points to it being a great product. Sure, maybe I'm being picky/snobby, but I think there's a lot to be said for having a polished presence when the product is highly technical.
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just curious, have you ever been able to compare it to a painted screen? I'm finally getting back to my screen after having an unsatisfactory viewing of The Ritual (lots of washed out shadows), and the last place I left my screen explorations was at the level of flat grey paint. I have a very light room but with good light control. I have a dynamic iris on my projector (Epson 3100), but it's just too aggrivating to use.

I really want to love DEA but in all seriousness, the website is horrible. Really, really horrible. The first few times I came across it, I thought it was a scam site. Even the photos / demos aren't that great - like there's one with someone's bare feet in it?! I've done a few websites (and I'm a professional photographer for architecture + interiors) and part of me wants to redesign it for him, top to bottom, in exchange for a screen! That being said, the one time I emailed him the formatting of the response was almost as illegible as the site... it breaks my heart because everything points to it being a great product. Sure, maybe I'm being picky/snobby, but I think there's a lot to be said for having a polished presence when the product is highly technical.
I understand your trepidation. It took me over a year before I built up the gumption to place an order with D.E.S. As far as your paint question, I did experiment with various paints before I went to ALR screens. To be flat out honest every paint combination I tried sucked majorly under ambient light. I would not touch any type of painted screen again.

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... As for pricing, the owner does not want that information given out. ...
It was bizarre enough when I pointed out on this forum the fact that the prices for DEA screens were listed on the Jamestown Home Theater Screen website and within hours the prices were deleted from that site so hurriedly that they forgot to delete the line to see prices below.

It's beyond bizarre for a vendor to demand that no customer buying their product is free to mention the price paid. It's not only not a normal way to conduct business but demonstrates a level of secrecy reminiscent of a cult. Surely everyone understands why all of this naturally leads to skepticism.

A little healthy skepticism is never a bad thing even with the most tested and proven products. In situations with an unusual number of question marks a higher degree of skepticism should be no surprise but should be expected and accepted as healthy.

The product may be as good as those posting here seem to think it is, and in time as hard data becomes available more people may tend to look at it differently. But all the glowing prose and all the cell phone photos in the world would not be sufficient to offset the healthy skepticism that has been and will continue to be expressed due to all the unusual circumstances.
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It was bizarre enough when I pointed out on this forum the fact that the prices for DEA screens were listed on the Jamestown Home Theater Screen website and within hours the prices were deleted from that site so hurriedly that they forgot to delete the line to see prices below.

It's beyond bizarre for a vendor to demand that no customer buying their product is free to mention the price paid. It's not only not a normal way to conduct business but demonstrates a level of secrecy reminiscent of a cult. Surely everyone understands why all of this naturally leads to skepticism.

A little healthy skepticism is never a bad thing even with the most tested and proven products. In situations with an unusual number of question marks a higher degree of skepticism should be no surprise but should be expected and accepted as healthy.

The product may be as good as those posting here seem to think it is, and in time as hard data becomes available more people may tend to look at it differently. But all the glowing prose and all the cell phone photos in the world would not be sufficient to offset the healthy skepticism that has been and will continue to be expressed due to all the unusual circumstances.
For what it's worth it was around $650 for the DIY Flex material @ 100" (not the pulsar). It's absurd to think that numbers can't be distributed widely and freely, it's just information and it's shared with anyone who expresses an interest in purchasing. There's nothing stating secrecy in any of the emails, either. They also offer a full refund if you're not happy, which is a valuable thing to have!
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With all the 100’s of screen shots in this thread when do we get to see one where the light source is down by the viewer.

Isn’t it logical if someone is building a room they might like light down where they are sitting so they can see what they are eating? No one I know wants to add lights in at the screen end of the room. Now I know those lights are supposed to represent windows or something in the room so if I have a room with windows I just get some black out blinds and block the light out. That’s a lot cheaper than any kind of screen. In a room where people want a ALR it could be for screen reflection off of white walls and ceilings or it could be they want to turn on some lights down on the end of the room where they sit.

You have those big black speakers blocking most of the light from those “high lumen” lights. Bring one of those lights up and sit it under the projector so we can see what happens. We have see 100 of the off to the side ones.

I have posted photos before with the same brightness of light as the projector directly under the projector and pointed to the screen before.

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It was bizarre enough when I pointed out on this forum the fact that the prices for DEA screens were listed on the Jamestown Home Theater Screen website and within hours the prices were deleted from that site so hurriedly that they forgot to delete the line to see prices below.

It's beyond bizarre for a vendor to demand that no customer buying their product is free to mention the price paid. It's not only not a normal way to conduct business but demonstrates a level of secrecy reminiscent of a cult. Surely everyone understands why all of this naturally leads to skepticism.

A little healthy skepticism is never a bad thing even with the most tested and proven products. In situations with an unusual number of question marks a higher degree of skepticism should be no surprise but should be expected and accepted as healthy.

The product may be as good as those posting here seem to think it is, and in time as hard data becomes available more people may tend to look at it differently. But all the glowing prose and all the cell phone photos in the world would not be sufficient to offset the healthy skepticism that has been and will continue to be expressed due to all the unusual circumstances.
You are free to have your own opinion. Some of the issues you bring up about this small business are warranted. But as I stated before, I'm not the business owner nor am I here to represent the business.

I'm only here to share my joy for a product I'm very happy with. I know you are not interested in purchasing any alr material and I also know Bud is not interesting in purchasing any alr material. I find it extremely boring to argue about the merits of a product that someone has no intent on purchasing or at least seeing in person. So to you I also say to have a blessed day. I will not be responding to your skepticism in this thread.

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Here is my screen with the lights out and here it is with 3000 lumens of white light shooting straight to the screen directly below the projector.
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Once again to the same two disinterested parties in this thread. I've stated before I will not respond to you any further in this thread. So sending countless posts waiting on a response, counter, or retort will go unanswered. You will not get any rebuttals from me. Once again, have a blessed day.

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For what it's worth it was around $650 for the DIY Flex material @ 100" (not the pulsar). It's absurd to think that numbers can't be distributed widely and freely, it's just information and it's shared with anyone who expresses an interest in purchasing. There's nothing stating secrecy in any of the emails, either. They also offer a full refund if you're not happy, which is a valuable thing to have!
I concur. Anyone interested can contact Dark Energy screens and ask for a quote. They also offer a return policy so if you get screen that you are not happy with, you can return it for a refund. Simple as that.

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For the record I don't expect any counters, retorts, rebuttals or responses of any kind to any comments or observations I make on this forum unless I directly ask someone to specifically address an issue I have a question about. I also don't make assumptions about what other forum members may or may not be interested in or whether that has any bearing on whether or not they should be posting in a given thread. AVS Forum has always been all about everyone feeling free to express their opinions within any thread as long as they abide by the rules of the forum. That includes expressing satisfaction, dissatisfaction or skepticism about any concept or product. Most of the forum rules are aimed at maintaining civility among all forum members and respecting the right of those we may disagree with to hold differing opinions. So we all seem to be on good footing here.
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Here is my screen with the lights out and here it is with 3000 lumens of white light shooting straight to the screen directly below the projector.



You sure that's 3000 lumens, not 300 ?




In my business , I sold high end flashlights and a 300 lumens flashlight will completely delete the entire picture from a screen, like not even tell a PJ is even throwing a image.

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The following pictures will show an image with all available light on in my loft with the exception of the ceiling fan light because it is in the same direction as as the projector. This includes light from the front wall lights, rear wall lights, side hallway light, stairs light, side corner lamp, and light bleed from kitchen and living room lights on downstairs.

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Here are pictures of the various light positions in my room. Note that the front wall lights are behind my speakers so there is no way my speakers can block the light from them bleeding on to my screen. I will also post a picture of the light bleed onto my screen.
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Pics 37 The truth and the light

Notice the contrast that can still be discerned between the starlight and the darkness of space. Also notice how the details of the ship and the vibrant color of the ship's exhaust are still visible under an extremely heavy amount of ambient light in the room.
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Pics 38 notice how the details in the space background are still clearly evident. The stars are readily visible. The darkness of space in the background is readily visible. This image on a regular wall would be completely washed out. This image on a regular white screen or gray screen would be completely washed out. This image on most of the ambient light rejecting screens that I've used would be completely washed out. However the images are still very much watchable in my room under a heavy amount of ambient light which no one would ever use.
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Pics 39 proof all lights were on while the aforementioned image was taken
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