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My review of the D.E.S. Pulsar Screen. WOW!

Let me give you a quick list of screens I've owned before I get on to this review.

Silver Ticket alr material
Stewart Firehawk
DNP Blade .08
DNP Supernova 2.3
Screen Innovations Black Diamond .08
Screen Innovations Black Diamond 1.4
Elite Screens Cinegrey 5D
Elite Prime Vision Darkstar 1.4
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Seymour Matinee Black
Screen Innovations Slate

I can say by far and away this is hands-down the best ambient light rejecting material I have ever owned. It rejects off axis light like I've never seen before. Even the lights in the back of the room on the left and right side of the projector have little effect on the screen.

Image fidelity is very good with no visual graininess or sparkles on the screen. Off-axis viewing is very good with no visual drop in brightness when walking from left to right of the screen from sharp angles. This screen totally and utterly crushes the Sceen Innovations Black Diamond. There is no doubt about that.

It crushes the Black Diamond when it comes to image fidelity, color accuracy, off-axis viewing with a gradual drop in brightness, and no graininess or sparkle to the screen.

The only slight con I can see for some people with the screen is there is a slight bias towards blue which can easily be calibrated out. It does not bother me at all because I prefer a cooler image. My eyes will detect any over-saturation with red which looks like rosacea face to me.

The Pulsar material is superb. I'm sure the .9 gain is also great but I highly recommend the Pulsar. It's brighter than the Black Diamond 1.4 and it retains blacks levels excellently.

I was on the verge of giving up front projection all together but this screen has rekindled my passion for home theater. This is the culmination of my screen journey and it's been well worth it to get me here.
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Thanks for the quick review. Can you answer some questions?

1. Did you have any of those other screens to direct compare against the Pulsar? Or samples of them to see any difference and not just go off memory?

2. Did you compare any other DE Screen Materials? Like the Abyss, Infinite Abyss or Stardust? What made you decide on the Pulsar?

3. What size screen/aspect ratio did you get and what projector are you mating it with?

4. Did you get their DIY material or one with a screen frame too?

5. Their website doesn't publish pricing. Can you give a rough estimate of their costs? DIY or frame options?

6. Do you have any info on their Acoustically Transparent Micro-Perforations option? Cost? What screen material of theirs can it be used on?

7. Are they still limited to ~120" 16:9 and ~150" 2.35:1?

Thanks!

Edit: Oh yea... Pics or it didn't happen!
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Thanks for the quick review. Can you answer some questions?

1. Did you have any of those other screens to direct compare against the Pulsar? Or samples of them to see any difference and not just go off memory?

2. Did you compare any other DE Screen Materials? Like the Abyss, Infinite Abyss or Stardust? What made you decide on the Pulsar?

3. What size screen/aspect ratio did you get and what projector are you mating it with?

4. Did you get their DIY material or one with a screen frame too?

5. Their website doesn't publish pricing. Can you give a rough estimate of their costs? DIY or frame options?

6. Do you have any info on their Acoustically Transparent Micro-Perforations option? Cost? What screen material of theirs can it be used on?

7. Are they still limited to ~120" 16:9 and ~150" 2.35:1?

Thanks!

Edit: Oh yea... Pics or it didn't happen!
I have samples for each of the previous screens I've owned. However I do not need samples to compare screen materials. I am someone who obsesses over every minute detail for every product I buy. It is my greatest strength and my greatest weakness at the same time. I'm definitely not the type of person who has to have his memory jump started to remember why I moved on from various products.

I did not compare any other materials from DEA because I'm not interested in any below gain screens. I'm someone who likes bright, vivid images and I will not go with something that's going to possibly force me into using inaccurate color modes sacrificing color accuracy for lumens or low contrast, high lumen projectors.

My screen is 110 inch Pulsar,16 by 9 aspect screen. I am using it with a Sony HW45ES. The image fidelity is superb in my opinion. Image is also quite bright in eco mode.

Out of respect for Stephen I would recommend contacting him for pricing. My screen material is the do it yourself material which is similar to The Screen Innovations Slate Flex material.

I have not tried or looked at any acoustically transparent screens since I do not have the right
room setup for one.

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Does it show any texture, shimmer, sparkle etc on white scenes?
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Does it show any texture, shimmer, sparkle etc on white scenes?
I don't see any texture, grain, sheen, or sparkle on white scenes. I was previously told that shimmering can be common for ALR screens with gain added however I have not seen any shimmering with my screen.

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The screen looks great in the light, but I am more excited to see the huge mains !!!!!!

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The screen looks great in the light, but I am more excited to see the huge mains !!!!!!
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Would you be willing/able to set something like a small desklamp (or flashlight in a pinch) on the floor against the wall beneath the screen where it shines up sideways across the screen, then share words (or even pictures) of how dark-colored the Pulsar looks compared to the BD1.4, CineGrey5D, Slate, and MatineeBlack with the projector off and that light as the only strong light hitting them?

Something like this would give me a more apples-to-apples way to follow along at home since DarkEnergy doesn't provide/sell samples anymore, and it sounds like the Pulsar is working great!

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Whats up with this, go to there website ,know pricing info ,ordering info,click on the u-tube videos they don't play. Do you work for this company, or just someone that happened to order one, after some research? Know offense but something doesn't pass the smell test here. From what I have been able to gather so far, not particularly cheaper for compairible material. More expensive than Elunevision 4k audio weave,already put together. Literaly half if you want to DIY. And these screenshots , come on now has a lot to do with your projector. Like I said doesn't pass the smell test.
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Whats up with this, go to there website ,know pricing info ,ordering info,click on the u-tube videos they don't play. Do you work for this company, or just someone that happened to order one, after some research? Know offense but something doesn't pass the smell test here. From what I have been able to gather so far, not particularly cheaper for compairible material. More expensive than Elunevision 4k audio weave,already put together. Literaly half if you want to DIY. And these screenshots , come on now has a lot to do with your projector. Like I said doesn't pass the smell test.
Go back and look at my post history. No one on this website has posted more about various alr screens. No one has more first hand experience with ambient light rejecting screens on this website than me. So if I'm not qualified to talk about a high-performing ambient light rejecting screen on this website. Who is?

I am not a lurker with a low post count who suddenly shows up every 2 or 3 years to make one post. I'm someone who steadily posts on this website daily. And anyone who knows me knows that I am passionate about ambient light rejecting screens. My post history and my thread history clearly shows that fact.

To your other point, pricing and ordering needs to be streamlined on D.E.S's website. I will agree with you on that. That was the major reason why I hesitated on purchasing a screen from them for over a year.

As for the screenshots, you have to have black levels to retain. I see people commonly using cheap, low contrast projectors with ALR screens. The results will be mediocre because there are no black levels to retain.

If you start off with a low contrast protector with the inability to produce anything beyond grayish black levels, then that's what you're going to also see on the ALR screen. This is why so many people using DLP and low contrast lcd projectors paired with ALR screens get poor results in the end. An ALR screen will not enhance what's not there. It can only help retain black levels under certain lighting situations for which it is designed.
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Go back and look at my post history. No one on this website has posted more about various alr screens. No one has more first hand experience with ambient light rejecting screens on this website than me. So if I'm not qualified to talk about a high-performing ambient light rejecting screen on this website. Who is?

I am not a lurker with a low post count who suddenly shows up every 2 or 3 years to make one post. I'm someone who steadily posts on this website daily. And anyone who knows me knows that I am passionate about ambient light rejecting screens. My post history and my thread history clearly shows that fact.

To your other point, pricing and ordering needs to be streamlined on DEA's website. I will agree with you on that. That was the major reason why I hesitated on purchasing a screen from them for over a year.

As for the screenshots, you have to have black levels to retain. I see people commonly using cheap, low contrast projectors with ALR screens. The results will be mediocre because there are no black levels to retain.

If you start off with a low contrast protector with the inability to produce anything beyond grayish black levels, then that's what you're going to also see on the ALR screen. This is why so many people using DLP and low contrast lcd projectors paired with ALR screens get poor results in the end. An ALR screen will not enhance what's not there. It can only help retain black levels under certain lighting situations for which it is designed.
Well thanks for clearing that up. That said, what did you pay for your screen? I am in need of an audio transparent screen, I have had my eye on Elunavisions 4k audio weave 106". Around $2250 Can. Do you think that, !. Pulsar would out perform this,why?
2. Would it be compairable price wise? 3 Do you know if they make roll up or electric screens, as they all look fixed frame on there web-site? And I really ment Know offense just very cautious.
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Well thanks for clearing that up. That said, what did you pay for your screen? I am in need of an audio transparent screen, I have had my eye on Elunavisions 4k audio weave 106". Around $2250 Can. Do you think that, !. Pulsar would out perform this,why?
2. Would it be compairable price wise? 3 Do you know if they make roll up or electric screens, as they all look fixed frame on there web-site? And I really ment Know offense just very cautious.
The D.E.S. Pulsar screen is an ambient light rejecting screen. It is not an acoustically transparent screen. I'm not sure if D.E.S. offers acoustically transparent screens. Also not sure if they make any retractable screen options. You can contact Dark Energy Screens at 888-733-9233 to ask them about those options.

As for pricing, the owner does not want that information given out. So you would have to contact D.E.S. at the aforementioned number for a direct quote. However, I will admit that online sales will be stifled until streamlined pricing is freely listed on their website.

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They are advertising perforated AT options on their website, so there's a decent-ish chance of all their materials being available as perforated AT screens.
I've seen folks mention DES coating existing screens, which I can't 100% remember if it's been fine to a rollup or not, but that's likely a good thing to ask about if you call wanting a rollup..Then you can see if they have particular recommendations and how it affects pricing.

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As for pricing, the owner does not want that information given out. So you would have to contact D.E.S. at the aforementioned number for a direct quote. However, I will admit that online sales will be stifled until streamlined pricing is freely listed on their website.
I'm aware of this, and it is certainly DES's prerogative to approach their business however they deem best, but I can't quite wrap my head around this. If there was a dealer network to protect, who got to choose their own pricing, then it would make sense, but I don't think that's the case here.

I saw DES deflect the question (somewhat) as saying they want to consult with every customer first and ensure the product matches their goals, and they don't want to have an "order now" option on the website. All well and good, and yet that has nothing to do with publishing pricing on their site. They could list at least the most common sizes and materials, and then mention custom projects would be quoted individually. Choosing to NOT do that, and only quoting via direct requests, understandably makes some consumers leery.

The only thing I can think of, would be if they have a large variability in input costs from their suppliers and don't want to constantly be fiddling with the prices listed on the site. No idea if that's true, just one possibility.
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My screen is 110 inch Pulsar,16 by 9 aspect screen. I am using it with a Sony HW45ES. The image fidelity is superb in my opinion. Image is also quite bright in eco mode.
110" wide or diagonal? How far back are the eyes in your seats?

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110" wide or diagonal? How far back are the eyes in your seats?
Screen is 110 inch diagonal, 16 by 9 aspect. My seats are 15 feet away from the screen. My projector is also 15 feet away from the screen.
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Would this screen work shelf mounted eye level?
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That is exactly the way I have my projector mounted. It is working fine for me.
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