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Is it ever too big?

Just put together my 120" SilverTicket fixed frame last night. It is basically floor to ceiling with about 1 foot of clearance on the bottom and the top is against the ceiling where the wall and ceiling come together. I am considering downsizing if needed, although IMO bigger is better it does look quite large and I still need to put Emotiva c1 below it. Does anyone have input on tight spaces and/or this size or is it just personal preference for the most part?
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The general rule is the bottom of the screen is 24"-30" from the bottom of the floor. It "might" be OK if you only have one row, but will not work with two rows for sure. It sounds like you are very height constrained in your theater, have you thought about going with a 2.35:1 screen instead of 16:9? A Silver Ticket 127" 2.35:1 screen will be ~11 less in height than your 120" screen so it will help you raise it up off the floor more, and will be about a foot wider (assuming you can go a foot wider).

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The general rule is the bottom of the screen is 24"-30" from the bottom of the floor. It "might" be OK if you only have one row, but will not work with two rows for sure. It sounds like you are very height constrained in your theater, have you thought about going with a 2.35:1 screen instead of 16:9? A Silver Ticket 127" 2.35:1 screen will be ~11 less in height than your 120" screen so it will help you raise it up off the floor more, and will be about a foot wider (assuming you can go a foot wider).
I will look into this. Will the benq 2050a allow me to adjust to 2.35:1?
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I'm not familiar with that model, but I imagine it will, though it may have to be done manually on that model if it doesn't have lens memory. To do a 127" 2.35:1 screen you would be using the same lumen as you would a 134" 16:9 screen if that makes a difference. Someone familiar with that model might be of more help in switching between 16:9 and 2.35:1 aspect ratios.

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The general rule is the bottom of the screen is 24"-30" from the bottom of the floor. It "might" be OK if you only have one row, but will not work with two rows for sure. It sounds like you are very height constrained in your theater, have you thought about going with a 2.35:1 screen instead of 16:9? A Silver Ticket 127" 2.35:1 screen will be ~11 less in height than your 120" screen so it will help you raise it up off the floor more, and will be about a foot wider (assuming you can go a foot wider).
I like the extra space, but I am seeing that most content is displayed 16:9 and this would lead to a black pillar effect on a 16:9 screen. Id almost rather downsize to 110" or 100" instead if I had to as most viewing stuff for us will be 16:9
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It depends. TV and games are almost all 16:9, but movies are not, many are 2.4:1, 2.39:1, 2.35:1, or 1.85:1 - all wider than 16:9. For movies the wider 2.35:1 screen is a good choice, for TV and games, the 16:9 is a better choice.



Using constant image height (which your projector might do or not) a 127" 2.35:1 screen gives you a 101" 16:9 image. If you step down to a 110" 16:9 screen your 2.35:1 (movies) image will be 104"

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The BenQ 2050A does not have those features to do automatic CIH with using pre-programmed zoom, focus, image shift. It has the ability to work with an A-lens but that would likely cost more than the projector to add.

Additionally movies are now coming IMAX as well as scope and 1.85 flat. Streaming TV is in even other ARs a common one is 2.0:1. Movies like Dunkirk and Aquaman switch ARs between scope and IMAX many times during the movie and there is now a big push for IMAX Enhanced movies soon to be released that will contain the IMAX version of the movies that up till now were released as scope to the home market.

Nothing says you have to use all your screen area all the time. I have a painted screen wall I call a stealth screen so my screen area is floor to ceiling wall to wall if I wanted it that size. I have a similar projector to the BenQ that has insufficient adjustments and I have it mounted to a DIY ceiling mount that allows me to move the projector closer to the screen to do CIH or CIH+IMAX or other variable size presentations to suit my needs. It is a poor mans method that might not be pretty, but is easy to do and it works great. At 8’ seating distance I can zoom between 65” and 115” in less than 10 seconds.

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Just put together my 120" SilverTicket fixed frame last night. It is basically floor to ceiling with about 1 foot of clearance on the bottom and the top is against the ceiling where the wall and ceiling come together. I am considering downsizing if needed, although IMO bigger is better it does look quite large and I still need to put Emotiva c1 below it. Does anyone have input on tight spaces and/or this size or is it just personal preference for the most part?
Are you sure you have the 120"? According to Amazon, the Silverticket 120" is 5 foot 4 inches tall, including the frame. If you only have 1ft below it, that means your ceiling is 6.5ft high.
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measure the screen diagonally bottom corner to top corner, it should be 120" If it is 120" long it is not a 120" screen it is larger.

My 120" drop down is mounted 2" from the ceiling. We have a case that is at least 8" wide and then black drop, and the bottom of the screen is 31" from the floor with an 8' ceiling height.

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IMO people worry too much about screen placement height. Seating dictates eye angles and if you don’t have a second row and heads in the way put it so your eyes line up with the center of the image or where its comfortable for you.

My first screen the image was 2” off the floor and 2” below the ceiling it was a 4:3 screen and we played tons of IMAX 4:3 DVDs that filled that monster. The rest of the time we did CIW and nothing compared to those IMAX movies though.

Many of the new commercial theaters are doing stadium seating and people often sit above the center line.

All that maters is you like what you have.

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it definitely CAN be too big. it can be too big for the room(having the screen too close to the walls/ceiling can lead to distracting reflections) or too big for comfortable viewing. I downsized my first screen because of this, and in doing so realized that for me, it's 100% about the image height. Ideally i'd go CIH, but directors who switch aspect ratios mid movie throw a wrench into that. there is no perfect option, so pick your compromise.

i recently(literally yesterday) re-made my screen and went a few inches shorter to avoid over-stretching the spandex material i used, but the original concept/plan i had was to make a large, nearly floor to ceiling screen wall and then use masking to get the appropriate size. I figured i'd need 3 options: 'imax' being the full wall, 2.35:1 being full width but a masking piece at the bottom, and 16:9 adding masking pieces on the sides to have a CIH with the 2.35:1.

as far as height goes, i've always been limited to 8foot ceilings, so 'too high' has never really been an option. i'd go as high as you can while keeping around a foot of space from the ceiling to prevent reflections(or use some kind of velvet on the ceiling to hide it). if you are using non-reclinable theater style seats, then trying to keep the middle of the screen at eye-level is a good goal. if reclining, then move it up, your feet will get in the way of the bottom of the screen if you don't.

best option imo, is to just play around a bit in your room. figure out the ideal size and height before committing to a screen

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It does end up being personal preference in terms of what negatives you're willing to put up with to achieve the positives that are most important to you. This varies considerably from individual to individual, so personal preference rules.
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