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Help requested between 2 screens

I am trying to decide between the following fixed screen:

Stewart Cima Neve
Seymour Glacier White

I will be using it for a JVC RX7, in a light controlled room, with flat dark brown walls. I will be projecting from 13'6", and plan between 120"-125" 16x9, depending on what size I can actually generate once the projector is mounted. I will sit 12' from the screen.

The pros/cons to me to them are:

Stewart Cima Neve--A LOT of good reviews/mentions here, only in specific sizes, higher price
Seymour Glacier White--Very few mentions, but well rated in them, built to any size, MASKING PANELS available, slightly lower price (basically same with the masking panels)

I REALLY like the idea of having custom masking panels specifically made for the screen, so that is what really attracts me to the Seymour GW, but the Cima Neve is so highly rated, it's hard to choose.

Thanks in advance!
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Those 2 materials perform very well, maybe the neve has a bit extra sheen, maybe the glacial white has a slight blue shift. At that point features and price may be more pertinent to making a choice. You can request samples from each manufacturer as well which may help aid in a decision.
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You really should not need a masking system with that projector in a properly treated room. So remove that from your equation.

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I am trying to decide between the following fixed screen:

Stewart Cima Neve
Seymour Glacier White

I will be using it for a JVC RX7, in a light controlled room, with flat dark brown walls. I will be projecting from 13'6", and plan between 120"-125" 16x9, depending on what size I can actually generate once the projector is mounted. I will sit 12' from the screen.

The pros/cons to me to them are:

Stewart Cima Neve--A LOT of good reviews/mentions here, only in specific sizes, higher price
Seymour Glacier White--Very few mentions, but well rated in them, built to any size, MASKING PANELS available, slightly lower price (basically same with the masking panels)

I REALLY like the idea of having custom masking panels specifically made for the screen, so that is what really attracts me to the Seymour GW, but the Cima Neve is so highly rated, it's hard to choose.

Thanks in advance!
I’m going with the Cima Neve...same projector, same throw distance...also a bat cave...tried and proven by many on here...i’m Not “taking a chance” with a screen anymore...been there done that, a royal pain to unmount, package, and return ship...
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I’m going with the Cima Neve...same projector, same throw distance...also a bat cave...tried and proven by many on here...i’m Not “taking a chance” with a screen anymore...been there done that, a royal pain to unmount, package, and return ship...
Whats the risk with SeymourAV? They provide free samples so you can see the material. And larger samples at a low cost.
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Whats the risk with SeymourAV? They provide free samples so you can see the material. And larger samples at a low cost.
I should have mentioned I’m doing a tab tensioned electric...XD people can see the weave, UF is low gain, no glacier white available...Cima Neve in Tab tensioned electric, no weave, good gain, tried and proven...

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If the Seymour has no visible sheen/texture with a neutral gain, i'd go for that with the masking panels. For scope, the black bars don't bother me so much, but they do top and bottom in 16:9 screens.
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I am trying to decide between the following fixed screen:

Stewart Cima Neve
Seymour Glacier White
Have you made a decision on screen? I'm deciding between these very screens. With samples side by side, Glacier does have a bit of a blue push, which JVC RS can compensate with the screen setting. I have considered Seymour masking panels, but decided against it - removing/installing an upper mask on a large screen seems like a hassle.

I also checked out Matte Wide screen, and it's the best ALR screen I've seen. I would get if not for HDR, it just can't match highlights of a pure white screen.
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Have you made a decision on screen? I'm deciding between these very screens. With samples side by side, Glacier does have a bit of a blue push, which JVC RS can compensate with the screen setting. I have considered Seymour masking panels, but decided against it - removing/installing an upper mask on a large screen seems like a hassle.

I also checked out Matte Wide screen, and it's the best ALR screen I've seen. I would get if not for HDR, it just can't match highlights of a pure white screen.
@avsBuddy I had analysis paralysis so I cheated. I bought one of the cheap ones from Amazon to use temporarily and see what was important and what wasn't. I've been using it for a few weeks so far. I have to say I'm happily surprised at how good a "cheap" screen looks. The build quality leaves something to be desired, and I had to mod a few parts to work, but overall it's not bad visually.

However, my wife thinks it "smells bad". I don't smell anything at all, but she said it stinks and gives her a headache. So I will need to do something else somewhat soon anyway.

Now that I have a 120" 16x9 up on the wall, I've made several observations:
1. The JVC is so much darker that the bars at the top and bottom don't bother me as much. But I still don't like them and would prefer velvet to make it black.
2. 16x9 images look HUGE, but 2.35 movies just look real good. I can see why some people prefer CIH to CIW.
3. Because of 1 and 2, I am now considering getting a 2.35 screen instead. I just have to take the time to figure out how to properly put a 16x9 image in the correct portion of my screen to mimic what it would look like on a similar 2.35 width.
4. If I go CIH, I will go a bit wider than current, as wide as I can fit without the speaker blocking the view of the two outer seats. I think I could go 115" wide but it would be very close. About 5" wider on each side than currently.
5. If I did that, I think it would be easier to live with the sides being slightly grey than the top and bottom. And it if REALLY bothered me, it would be pretty easy to hang some velvet drapes to pull in closer for 16x9 shows.

I will say, just using the small samples to compare, to me the Cime Neve "pops" a bit more, and is therefore more attractive. But while watching for a while, it seems to have a "warm" cast that makes the SeymourAV GW seem more accurate overall.

But basically, I'm still stuck undecided unfortunately. LOL.

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2. 16x9 images look HUGE, but 2.35 movies just look real good. I can see why some people prefer CIH to CIW.
3. Because of 1 and 2, I am now considering getting a 2.35 screen instead. I just have to take the time to figure out how to properly put a 16x9 image in the correct portion of my screen to mimic what it would look like on a similar 2.35 width.
4. If I go CIH, I will go a bit wider than current, as wide as I can fit without the speaker blocking the view of the two outer seats. I think I could go 115" wide but it would be very close. About 5" wider on each side than currently.
I have a Silver Ticject 115” 2.35 screen. When projecting 16:9 it’s about 92” diagonal.

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5. If I did that, I think it would be easier to live with the sides being slightly grey than the top and bottom. And it if REALLY bothered me, it would be pretty easy to hang some velvet drapes to pull in closer for 16x9 shows.
Black bars on the sides are less distracting than top and bottom. Note, however, some projectors leak light outside the projected image; that would normally not be very noticeable as it will be on the velvet frame or adjoining wall. With a 2.35 screen, the leak will be on the white screen so will be much more noticeable. I ended up making two masking panels and slip them in the frame when watching 16:9.

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Just want to chime in and say I’m also looking at the Glacier White from Seymour in combo with the NX-7. I also like the idea of the masking panels. It’s much more rare that I’m watching a scope film as opposed to streaming content or gaming. But when I do see the occasional scope film I absolutely hate the gray bars. The perceived contrast is far worst when I see them. I figure since it’s not often, the magnetic masks are a great cost effective way to kill the gray.
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