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UST Screen: Telon vs XY Screen

Hi,
So both TELON and XY SCREEN makes PET CRYSTAL screen for UST projector.
TELON 120" is currently selling for about $700 shipped from China.
While XY is about $1200 for the same screen and size.

Does anyone knows the main difference between these two?

The only difference as far as I can see is the GAIN amount.
XY: 0.8 gain
TELON: 0.35 gain
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UST Screen: Telon vs XY Screen

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Hi,

So both TELON and XY SCREEN makes PET CRYSTAL screen for UST projector.

TELON 120" is currently selling for about $700 shipped from China.

While XY is about $1200 for the same screen and size.



Does anyone knows the main difference between these two?



The only difference as far as I can see is the GAIN amount.

XY: 0.8 gain

TELON: 0.35 gain


I don’t, but I can say .35 gain is very low. I’ve never heard of a screen with that low of gain. I’d imagine that the picture would be way too dark. XY Screens have had a pretty good reviews from members on this forum. Elite Screens have just recently cut their prices in half. They’re a little more than the XY but are slightly brighter in comparisons I’ve seen.
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I briefly considered an XY screen because of the positive reviews in this forum but there are *very few* of these reviews and virtually no reviews outside of the forums so my fear was that this screen hasn’t seen enough testing yet. I eventually went with silver ticket.


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FWIW, I have the Viewsonic BCP 120, which is technically a 0.35 gain screen as well, and looks identical to my XY PET Crystal sample I received. Either XY is exaggerating their gain, or Viewsonic (DNP) is being very conservative.

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GAIN:

XY Screen PET Crystal: 0.8 (~$1200 for 120")
Elite Screen Aeon CLR: 0.6 (~$1300 for 120")
ViewSonic BrilliantColorPanel: 0.6 (~$1600 for 120")
Snowwhite ALR UST: 0.46 (~$1000 for 120")
TELON PET Crystal: 0.35 (~$700 for 120")

Thank you for your feedback.
I'll go with Elite Screen Aeon since it's a fair price at this time and is available via Amazon.
Note that XY, Snowwhite, and TELON are only available from China at this time.
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FWIW, I have the Viewsonic BCP 120, which is technically a 0.35 gain screen as well, and looks identical to my XY PET Crystal sample I received. Either XY is exaggerating their gain, or Viewsonic (DNP) is being very conservative.


It’s advertised as a 0.6 gain, have you tested it? I think you might be confused with the throw angle of <0.35 Anyway, I think the BCP is the best option from all my research. I like the fact that the top and bottom of the screen are constructed of single pieces. My current non UST screen slightly bows out in the middle where the top two pieces join together. Also the spring tensioning is nice to have. My SilverTicket uses tensioning rods and over time the material has stretched creating a slight fishbowl effect. In all fairness it wasn’t made for a UST, and I have a feeling this wouldn’t be an issue on the their UST specific screen.
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It’s advertised as a 0.6 gain, have you tested it? I think you might be confused with the throw angle of <0.35 Anyway, I think the BCP is the best option from all my research. I like the fact that the top and bottom of the screen are constructed of single pieces. My current non UST screen slightly bows out in the middle where the top two pieces join together. Also the spring tensioning is nice to have. My SilverTicket uses tensioning rods and over time the material has stretched creating a slight fishbowl effect. In all fairness it wasn’t made for a UST, and I have a feeling this wouldn’t be an issue on the their UST specific screen.
Actually, DNP rates the STW as a 0.5 gain (which the BCP is a rebranded STW, afaik). Either way, I've compared my BCP with the XY PET sample I received and they look identical in brightness, so one of them is not entirely accurate with their gain claim.

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Hi all, I did bought my Telon screen 120” from alibaba at 660us$ including tax and delivery 1 month ago. I should receive my fengmi 4k projector soon to test it.

Did find out that the screen is actually manufactured by Taiwan company call IFTC https://en.iftc.com.tw/cbsp.html.

Telon only manufactures the assembly of aluminum extrusion and spring ;0)

Did find out that the Telon screen used is actually the same things as elune vision aurora 8k from the joelster video
at 3:23 sec. The back sticker is identical to my screen from Telon !!!!! See picture showing “cbsp-sheet”

The only difference is the led light and velour contour extrusion finish.

My screen not yet install and contour velour only on top for now:



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With regards to UST ALR screens... Does the lower the gain = more ambient light rejecting ability, but the compromise is when you watch movies in the dark? So if you have an option of .35, .6 and .8... 8 would be best in the dark and rejects the least amount of light during the day? So would the Aeon being .6 give you a nice compromise?
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With regards to UST ALR screens... Does the lower the gain = more ambient light rejecting ability, but the compromise is when you watch movies in the dark? So if you have an option of .35, .6 and .8... 8 would be best in the dark and rejects the least amount of light during the day? So would the Aeon being .6 give you a nice compromise?
I'm not certain but do see that UST screen gain is less than 1.0 while normal and ALR are usually above 1.0
This article explains it more in details: projectorcentral.com/projector_screens_gain.htm
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Hi all, I did bought my Telon screen 120” from alibaba at 660us$ including tax and delivery 1 month ago. I should receive my fengmi 4k projector soon to test it.

Did find out that the screen is actually manufactured by Taiwan company call IFTC https://en.iftc.com.tw/cbsp.html.

Telon only manufactures the assembly of aluminum extrusion and spring ;0)

Did find out that the Telon screen used is actually the same things as elune vision aurora 8k from the joelster video https://youtu.be/VqNJbUWKVI0 at 3:23 sec. The back sticker is identical to my screen from Telon !!!!! See picture showing “cbsp-sheet”

The only difference is the led light and velour contour extrusion finish.

My screen not yet install and contour velour only on top for now:



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Hey Garfield,

Under "CBSP-SHEET," is the numeric code the same too?

I'm wondering what CBSP stands for. Is it something universal that a lot of manufacturers use, or if it's specific to the Taiwan company IFTC. Because I've done some detective work as well and saw the same "CBSP-Sheet" on Snowhite screens, but the numeric code is different. So it could be that this is also by IFTC, or it could be a universal language used by multiple manufactures.
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Hi,
So both TELON and XY SCREEN makes PET CRYSTAL screen for UST projector.
TELON 120" is currently selling for about $700 shipped from China.
While XY is about $1200 for the same screen and size.

Does anyone knows the main difference between these two?

The only difference as far as I can see is the GAIN amount.
XY: 0.8 gain
TELON: 0.35 gain
Hi everyone,This is Fiona from Telon factory.Phong Huynh,this man has defamed our alr screen without any evidence. MAKE NONSENCE!Telon screen has 0.35 gain,how do you know?Have you test it? I remebered that u have sent me a message on 22th Oct from Alibaba(as pic attached) and then I have quotated you the price with shipping fee.At that day,you came here and say XY SCREEN has 0.8 gain and Telon screen just have 0.35 lower gain.I suspected you are from XY company, deliberately slandering your peers.
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Hi everyone,This is Fiona from Telon factory.Phong Huynh,this man has defamed our alr screen without any evidence. MAKE NONSENCE!Telon screen has 0.35 gain,how do you know?Have you test it? I remebered that u have sent me a message on 22th Oct from Alibaba(as pic attached) and then I have quotated you the price with shipping fee.At that day,you came here and say XY SCREEN has 0.8 gain and Telon screen just have 0.35 lower gain.I suspected you are from XY company, deliberately slandering your peers.
What is Telon's PET Crystal UST screen's rated gain?

Is identifying that ALR screen as 0.35gain slander because the number was too high or too low? Neither is inherently good or bad, just different and more attuned to some situations/rooms while a different gain would be better suited for other situations.

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I can't find anything on any Telon website that states the gain specification for their PET Crystal screen. When a screen manufacturer doesn't publish an official gain rating for their screen it should be expected that customers will be confused.
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What is Telon's PET Crystal UST screen's rated gain?

Is identifying that ALR screen as 0.35gain slander because the number was too high or too low? Neither is inherently good or bad, just different and more attuned to some situations/rooms while a different gain would be better suited for other situations.
Hi Ftoast,the gain of Telon alr screen is 0.8 and I don't know why Phong Huynh said telon screen is 0.35 gain without any test.Maybe the price from our factory is lower than XY screen,we have snatched their business.So they came here and defamed Telon screen.Actually Telon factory manufactured projection screen for 11 years and all of the parts of the screen are produced by ourself even paper carton.That's why our price is lower than theirs.
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I can't find anything on any Telon website that states the gain specification for their PET Crystal screen. When a screen manufacturer doesn't publish an official gain rating for their screen it should be expected that customers will be confused.
Yeah,we didn't upload our PET Crystal alr screen on our Website and will do it later.Thanks for your suggestion.
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Yeah,we didn't upload our PET Crystal alr screen on our Website and will do it later.Thanks for your suggestion.
Fiona, how can I get a sample to test before buying?
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I briefly considered an XY screen because of the positive reviews in this forum but there are *very few* of these reviews and virtually no reviews outside of the forums so my fear was that this screen hasn’t seen enough testing yet. I eventually went with silver ticket.


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you can find a lot of reviews for XY Screen via Toutube.

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Hi everyone,This is Fiona from Telon factory.Phong Huynh,this man has defamed our alr screen without any evidence. MAKE NONSENCE!Telon screen has 0.35 gain,how do you know?Have you test it? I remebered that u have sent me a message on 22th Oct from Alibaba(as pic attached) and then I have quotated you the price with shipping fee.At that day,you came here and say XY SCREEN has 0.8 gain and Telon screen just have 0.35 lower gain.I suspected you are from XY company, deliberately slandering your peers.
How do you know him from XY Screen? Do you have any proof on it? If not, pls mind your words here.

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No offense but it’s not a review it it’s posted by an XY screen employee like the example you post above.
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No offense but it’s not a review it it’s posted by an XY screen employee like the example you post above.
hi, i accept your words. Thanks.

I just felt very unbelievable that I can see this kind of review(the one quoted by Fiona from Telon factory) at a professional AVS forum.
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