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Question Will it blend? AT screen format and size feedback

I'm nearing completion of my upstairs theater and have backed myself into a corner with screen format, something I should have started with as a base requirement.

The room measures 13' wide by 16' deep with a Sony VPL-VW695ES at a 7-8ft elevation and 14' throw. One row of seating is planned with a viewing distance of 11'.

The screen wall (pictured) is fairly fixed with a vaulted ceiling pitching at 6.5'. The in-wall L/C/Rs are Definitive Tech UIW RLS II arrays and to the far right corner, a SVS PC2000. A second PC2000 exists in the far back left corner of the room. The distance between the Left and Right speaker frames measures 105".

I'm investigating two AT screen formats:

16:9, approximate 95" width, mounted over the center channel but leaving the left and right in-walls exposed. Depending on source and construction, the frame of the screen will border the speakers with a gap ranging between 1" - 3".

Cinemascope (2.40:1) at 120" width, covering the L/C/R in-walls with only about 18" of wall space to spare on the sides. Most of my content is in 16:9, so I'll use AT masking panels to fit over the left and right channels. Seymour caters to this application well but I don't know if the weave of the Center Stage XD will bother me or if the UF compromises on gain too much.

The room may not be wide enough and projector throw not long enough to accommodate a 120" 2.40:1 format at a throw of 14'. Theoretically, the Sony 695ES will get there, but I don't have enough experience to go into this decision with confidence.


So, what would you do?
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I'm nearing completion of my upstairs theater and have backed myself into a corner with screen format, something I should have started with as a base requirement.



The room measures 13' wide by 16' deep with a Sony VPL-VW695ES at a 7-8ft elevation and 14' throw. One row of seating is planned with a viewing distance of 11'.



The screen wall (pictured) is fairly fixed with a vaulted ceiling pitching at 6.5'. The in-wall L/C/Rs are Definitive Tech UIW RLS II arrays and to the far right corner, a SVS PC2000. A second PC2000 exists in the far back left corner of the room. The distance between the Left and Right speaker frames measures 105".



I'm investigating two AT screen formats:



16:9, approximate 95" width, mounted over the center channel but leaving the left and right in-walls exposed. Depending on source and construction, the frame of the screen will border the speakers with a gap ranging between 1" - 3".



Cinemascope at 120" width, covering the L/C/R in-walls with only about 18" of wall space to spare. Most of my content is in 16:9, so I'll use AT masking panels to fit over the left and right channels. Seymour caters to this application well but I don't know if the weave of the Center Stage XD will bother me or if the UF compromises on gain too much.



The room may not be wide enough and projector throw not long enough to accommodate a 120" 2.35:1 format at a throw of 14'. Theoretically, the Sony 695ES will get there, but I don't have enough experience to go into this decision with confidence.





So, what would you do?
Hang the projector and watch some content and see what size image feels right and work from there

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I have never noticed any problem with the weave on the XD screens.
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What are the outer measurements for Left to Right- maybe you can go 16:9 just over the edge of those- guessing 115-120”? If the Sony lets you.

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I sit 12' back from a 12' wide screen and it is just right - I would suggest going 120" screen for sure - you can always make the image smaller if you don't like it but very hard to make it bigger if your screen is too small.


I would also do a 16:9 format screen - if you do 21:9 then 16:9 images will be too small IMO. My screen is 21:9 and 16:9 images shrunk to fit is too small, so much so that I project 16:9 full width and live with the top and bottom of the image being chopped off.


Have you looked at using a DIY spandex screen - then you can make it exactly the size you want - will work really well in what looks like a light controlled theatre.
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What are the outer measurements for Left to Right- maybe you can go 16:9 just over the edge of those- guessing 115-120”? If the Sony lets you.
That's right, 120" for the outer edge to just cover the left and right in-walls with an AT frame. Unfortunately I don't have the elevation to work with at 16:9 with that vaulted ceiling limiting the frame height to 6'6".
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That's right, 120" for the outer edge to just cover the left and right in-walls with an AT frame. Unfortunately I don't have the elevation to work with at 16:9 with that vaulted ceiling limiting the frame height to 6'6".


Then CIH it is then.

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try to adjust you projector lens and see whether the size of the content is projected properly. If not adjust your projector screen.
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That's right, 120" for the outer edge to just cover the left and right in-walls with an AT frame. Unfortunately I don't have the elevation to work with at 16:9 with that vaulted ceiling limiting the frame height to 6'6".

120" wide 16:9 screen is 5' 7 1/2" high. Depending on how high your seating is (assume 2' 6") that size screen should be just about ideal mounted with the top at 6'6", putting your eyes at 1/3rd screen level.
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120" wide 16:9 screen is 5' 7 1/2" high. Depending on how high your seating is (assume 2' 6") that size screen should be just about ideal mounted with the top at 6'6", putting your eyes at 1/3rd screen level.
I figured that elevation is so low that if I kick up the recliner and lean back a bit in the chair, my feet will be blocking a portion of the lower image.
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Have you looked at using a DIY spandex screen - then you can make it exactly the size you want - will work really well in what looks like a light controlled theatre.
I only briefly considered it until I saw the magnetic masking system from Seymour, at a fairly attractive price for their CenterStage XD weave. I have to imagine your options are a bit more limited and quite a bit more expensive in WA!

I lived and worked in QLD for about 9 months from 2017-2018 and would probably be back there now if it weren't for my house and job change here in Texas. I can't wait to get back to see some old friends and hit the Great Ocean Road.
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I only briefly considered it until I saw the magnetic masking system from Seymour, at a fairly attractive price for their CenterStage XD weave. I have to imagine your options are a bit more limited and quite a bit more expensive in WA!

I lived and worked in QLD for about 9 months from 2017-2018 and would probably be back there now if it weren't for my house and job change here in Texas. I can't wait to get back to see some old friends and hit the Great Ocean Road.

I am in remote country WA so it is even more limited and expensive. Heading to Qld to work for a couple of months - maybe I can pick up some stuff a bit cheaper while I am there - first time in Brisbane for me



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I figured that elevation is so low that if I kick up the recliner and lean back a bit in the chair, my feet will be blocking a portion of the lower image.

Then don't recline or get smaller feet


From all my research and reading it appears that almost every setup has to be compromised in some way - its up to you to decide which compromises you can live with and which you can't.
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