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Hello All. I am currently reviewing the new G4 version of the ST130. I've casually glanced through the last page of comments on screens and seen lots of questions about the difference between a ST130 and ST100. The main difference visually is the lack of any coating signature on the image. Because the ST130 is a gain screen, there is the texture and artifacts associated with the coating. This results in some static texture that is typically visible in bright portions of the screen when the image is panning (more visible with a vertical pan typically). I see a lot of ST130 owners that say they never see the texture and sparkle, which is great (don't go looking for it!), but it is ALWAYS there. If you were to compare a tensioned ST100 to it, the difference is quite noticeable, especially with bright content (The Art of Flight is a perfect test case). I am pretty sensitive to it as I've used a ST100 for years now, but the ST130 is still miles better in this regard than most screens I see at shows or at client's homes for calibrations.

The G4 is Stewart's latest version and looks to reduce the "texture/signature" of the coating to help with clarity and visual artifacts now that we've moved to 4K and brighter images. I'll have a review here in the next couple months that compares it to my ST100 and my experiences with the previous G3 version (which I also own and have used before).

As for brightness differences between the ST130 and ST100, you will typically see somewhere around 20-25%. It usually doesn't hit 30% because of the angles in use (for ceiling mounted projectors). The ST130 has gain applied so its brightness uniformity across the screen will not be as consistent. The ST100 maintains its brightness uniformity much better (but remember, not all projectors have great uniformity so this could play into it as well). The ST100 should only be considered in a bat-cave like environment with extreme care for not only ambient light but the reflection of light in the room back to the screen. Think velvet lined with no light colored surfaces. Care still needs to be taken with the ST130, but not to the same extreme.
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I'll have a review here in the next couple months that compares it to my ST100 and my experiences with the previous G3 version (which I also own and have used before).
Looking forward to that!
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The G4 is Stewart's latest version and looks to reduce the "texture/signature" of the coating to help with clarity and visual artifacts now that we've moved to 4K and brighter images. I'll have a review here in the next couple months that compares it to my ST100 and my experiences with the previous G3 version (which I also own and have used before).


Thank you! I look forward to it ... I am torn between ST130 and Neve and ST100 and cant make up my mind.
Part of me says go with ST100 to get a great no compromise picture ... because with Dynamic Tone mapping I can get by with lower gain. I might even go with a smaller screen and move my sofa closer to the screen.

Compromise compromise!


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Hello All. I am currently reviewing the new G4 version of the ST130.
Any idea when it goes on sale? Or is it available already? (I don't see it on the website)
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Any idea when it goes on sale? Or is it available already? (I don't see it on the website)

They are shipping G4 now. I just received my new ST130 yesterday and it says G4 on the tube.

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They are shipping G4 now. I just received my new ST130 yesterday and it says G4 on the tube.
I have a sample. It really doesn't look any different than my G3 screen.

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What is the best Stewart screen in the 120" range in a 100% light controlled room but also has the ability to watch with some lights on?
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What is the best Stewart screen in the 120" range in a 100% light controlled room but also has the ability to watch with some lights on?
I've watched stuff on my Cima Neve with the recessed can lights with dimmers in our theater. It looks fine for sports / HDTV. Dark movies obviously look better in the dark .

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Decided to pay for Internet onboard Majesty Of The Seas and come to find out my 125" ST100 Balon 2.40 screen is scheduled for delivery on Monday! Same day I return home from our cruise. What a way to end a vacation!!!!

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I'm interested in purchasing a 123" fixed frame 16:9 screen with Studiotek130 screen material. I expect to keep the screen a long time since it is essentially the reference standard for a screen with a small amount of gain. Thus, I'm wondering how to go about packing the screen if I move in the future (no plans currently, just wondering). Can the screen material be rolled up in its original packaging? As for assembly, are there any videos of the process (I think it'll be a WallScreen Deluxe with the EZMount system, but I'll verify prior to purchase). I found written instructions here: https://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/Fi...n%20Deluxe.pdf.

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Question ST130 with short throw?

Im considering the ST130 with a 100" screen and 10' throw. Right at the edge of the 1.3 times screen width Requirement. Small screen sample didn't really tell me much, so wondering - anyone use the ST130 with a short throw?



Whats your experience with hot-spotting or sparkles? Any opinions would be great. Thanks!

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The Official Stewart Film Screen thread.

What a way to end a cruise and come home to this!!! It will be a loooong night for me tonight!

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The ST100 maintains its brightness uniformity much better (but remember, not all projectors have great uniformity so this could play into it as well). The ST100 should only be considered in a bat-cave like environment with extreme care for not only ambient light but the reflection of light in the room back to the screen. Think velvet lined with no light colored surfaces. Care still needs to be taken with the ST130, but not to the same extreme.
I was actually quite worried by this notion of having a blacked out bat cave prerequisite for the ST100, however after experiencing it with piano black speakers on either side and below my screen, and having a dark grey room - far from blacked out, my ST100 appears to work very well. I can even watch sports with the cove lights on with satisfaction on the image quality. I dont have any other screens to compare to but coming from a Pio Kuro plasma, the projected screen looks very good in my theatre. I agree though to get the absolute most performance out of the screen a blacked out light controlled environment will always work best but wanted to provide my experience that one close enough works very well too.
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The Official Stewart Film Screen thread.

Let me start off by saying that this screen (ST100 material on Balon frame) has impressed me from the packaging, throughout the entire assembly and even up to the point where I finally hung the screen on the wall with the material all installed and done. The attention to detail and craftsmanship has by far been the best I have ever experienced. It definitely feels like a professional piece of equipment and well worth the premium price.

But being the unlucky fella that I always am, I have an issue with the final product. I don't know if it's just that the screen material is a tad too small but all 4 corners are showing the edge of the screen material.

The worst being the bottom right corner, which shows an almost 1/2" square. =(

I meticulously followed the instructions and made sure the frame was smack center of the screen material. I was jumping all over the place, aligning it and making sure it was centered before I started snapping the screen material to the frame.

I went from the top left corner and worked my way around it, as per the instructions.

All button snaps were done and it all looked great. I installed the frame bezels, they all snapped into place and I secured them with the supplied springs.

When I hung the screen, this is how all 4 corners look like:

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This is my first Stewart screen and I don't know what I can do to fix this, if it was an error on my part. Like I said, the frame was perfectly squared inside the screen material and all button snaps were snapped into place.

Any advice?

I'm sort of bummed out because up until the point of hanging the screen all assembled and noticing this issue, I was extremely excited. The screen is amazing and the NX7's image is now jaw dropping! But those corners though. =(

Can anyone help me, please?


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Let me start off by saying that this screen (ST100 material on Balon frame) has impressed me from the packaging up, throughout the entire assembly and even up to the point where I finally hung the screen in the wall with the material all installed and done. The attention to detail and craftsmanship has by far the best I have experienced.

But being the unlucky fella that I always am, I have an issue with the final product. I don't know if it's just that the screen material is a tad too small but all 4 corners are showing the edge of the screen material.

The worst being the bottom right corner, which shows an almost 1/2" square. =(

I meticulously followed the instructions, made sure the frame was smack center of the screen material. I was jumping all over the place, aligning it and making sure it was centered before I started snapping the material to the frame.

I went from the top left corner and worked my way around it, as per the instructions.

All button snaps were done and it all looked great. I installed the frame bezels, they all snapped into place and I secured them with the supplied springs.

When I hung the screen, this is how all 4 corners look like:

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This is my first Stewart screen and I don't know what I can do to fix this, if it was an error on my part. Like I said, the frame was perfectly squared inside the screen material and all button snaps were snapped into place.

Any advice?

I sort of bummed out because up until the point of hanging the screen all assembled and noticing this issue, I was extremely excited. The screen is amazing and the NX7's image is now jaw dropping! But those corners though. =(

Can anyone help me, please?


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Contact your dealer and have them contact Stewart.


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Uh oh, that doesn't sound good. =( I will contact my dealer right away.


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Let me start off by saying that this screen (ST100 material on Balon frame) has impressed me from the packaging, throughout the entire assembly and even up to the point where I finally hung the screen on the wall with the material all installed and done. The attention to detail and craftsmanship has by far been the best I have ever experienced. It definitely feels like a professional piece of equipment and well worth the premium price.

But being the unlucky fella that I always am, I have an issue with the final product. I don't know if it's just that the screen material is a tad too small but all 4 corners are showing the edge of the screen material.

The worst being the bottom right corner, which shows an almost 1/2" square. =(

I meticulously followed the instructions and made sure the frame was smack center of the screen material. I was jumping all over the place, aligning it and making sure it was centered before I started snapping the screen material to the frame.

I went from the top left corner and worked my way around it, as per the instructions.

All button snaps were done and it all looked great. I installed the frame bezels, they all snapped into place and I secured them with the supplied springs.

When I hung the screen, this is how all 4 corners look like:

Attachment 2639924

Attachment 2639922

Attachment 2639920

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This is my first Stewart screen and I don't know what I can do to fix this, if it was an error on my part. Like I said, the frame was perfectly squared inside the screen material and all button snaps were snapped into place.

Any advice?

I'm sort of bummed out because up until the point of hanging the screen all assembled and noticing this issue, I was extremely excited. The screen is amazing and the NX7's image is now jaw dropping! But those corners though. =(

Can anyone help me, please?


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Here you go, fixed that for ya!

You should expect Stewart to take care of this for you right away, they are the best.
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Here you go, fixed that for ya!



You should expect Stewart to take care of this for you right away, they are the best.

LMFAO!!!! Stewart should make these in ST100 material!! LOL

Guys, I reached out to my vendor @ProjectionHead and as always, I will be taken care of. Stewart will be reaching out to me very soon and help me get squared away.

Like stated earlier, the build quality is amazing and I already see Stewart's customer service already coming through.

Kudos to both ProjectionScreen and Stewart.

BTW, the image thrown by the NX7 on the ST100 is jaw dropping!!! Best image I have ever seen from a projector/screen combo. Simply beautiful.


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Hello All. I am currently reviewing the new G4 version of the ST130. I've casually glanced through the last page of comments on screens and seen lots of questions about the difference between a ST130 and ST100. The main difference visually is the lack of any coating signature on the image. Because the ST130 is a gain screen, there is the texture and artifacts associated with the coating. This results in some static texture that is typically visible in bright portions of the screen when the image is panning (more visible with a vertical pan typically). I see a lot of ST130 owners that say they never see the texture and sparkle, which is great (don't go looking for it!), but it is ALWAYS there. If you were to compare a tensioned ST100 to it, the difference is quite noticeable, especially with bright content (The Art of Flight is a perfect test case). I am pretty sensitive to it as I've used a ST100 for years now, but the ST130 is still miles better in this regard than most screens I see at shows or at client's homes for calibrations.

The G4 is Stewart's latest version and looks to reduce the "texture/signature" of the coating to help with clarity and visual artifacts now that we've moved to 4K and brighter images. I'll have a review here in the next couple months that compares it to my ST100 and my experiences with the previous G3 version (which I also own and have used before).

As for brightness differences between the ST130 and ST100, you will typically see somewhere around 20-25%. It usually doesn't hit 30% because of the angles in use (for ceiling mounted projectors). The ST130 has gain applied so its brightness uniformity across the screen will not be as consistent. The ST100 maintains its brightness uniformity much better (but remember, not all projectors have great uniformity so this could play into it as well). The ST100 should only be considered in a bat-cave like environment with extreme care for not only ambient light but the reflection of light in the room back to the screen. Think velvet lined with no light colored surfaces. Care still needs to be taken with the ST130, but not to the same extreme.
Please petition them to take these same steps with ST100 to remove what remaining sparkle is there as well It is close but not perfect.
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The ST100’s coating is for color accuracy. The texture is so subtle you really have to look for it specifically and usually very closely. It is hardly an issue worth complaining about.
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Cima electric drop down question

I’m trying to adjust the screen drop on my Cima Neve to raise it about an inch from the bottom position...the problem is the end of my screen Casing is about 4 inches from the side wall. I removed the white Dust cover and am using a Mirror and a flashlight to locate the “pod” (because I cannot fit my head in the 4” space) which I need to turn clockwise...

The manual says to use “an electricians style screwdriver” what ever that is or a .4 cm hex...I’ve tried everything and no luck so I just want to make sure I am trying to adjust the proper pod...it says it’s a white “switch” but says to use a hex...with my flashlight and mirror I see a hex pod which looks silver to me...the problem is the hex does not seem to be “cut out” to allow the insertion of the hex wrench...is someone able to locate the pod and see if a hex will fit it or something will fit it? just wanna make sure I’m trying to adjust the right “pod/switch”...

Edit: I see the big mother yellow UP switch, not touching that one...where is the white switch in relation to the yellow switch?

Edit 2: I don’t think the silver pod I’m seeing is an adjustment pod, it’s seems to just be part of the interior housing

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I have a different model, but the manual has detailed drawings as to the location of these. SJ

Just looked and your manual doesn’t have this.

They turn really easy on mine.

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The Official Stewart Film Screen thread.

Quick update:

Stewart came through and now my screen is FLAWLESS!!! I am in AWE with the level of customer service I have experienced with Stewart.

They overnighted a new screen material AND flew a field tech to my house in order to assemble the new screen material on my frame! Talk about taking care of their customers and making sure we are completely satisfied with our purchase.

The new screen material fit like a glove and all corners are perfect.

A huge shout out to Mike Walley from Stewart Screens for assembling my new screen and doing an amazing job.

They say you get what you pay for and in this case, it couldn't be any more true. You pay a premium for their screens but you are treated like royalty when it comes to standing by their products.

If you are thinking about buying a projector screen, Stewart Screens should be on top of your list.


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Quick update:

Stewart came through and now my screen is FLAWLESS!!! I am in AWE with the level of customer service I have experienced with Stewart.

They overnighted a new screen material AND flew a field tech to my house in order to assemble the new screen material on my frame! Talk about taking care of their customers and making sure we are completely satisfied with our purchase.

The new screen material fit like a glove and all corners are perfect.

A huge shout out to Mike Walley from Stewart Screens for assembling my new screen and doing an amazing job.

They say you get what you pay for and in this case, it couldn't be any more true. You pay a premium for their screens but you are treated like royalty when it comes to standing by their products.

If you are thinking about buying a projector screen, Stewart Screens should be on top of your list.


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Great to hear everything got all sorted out. Now just sit back and enjoy the beautiful screen.

I can also echo the amazing customer service from Stewart. Had a few hiccups with my purchase, but Stewart came through and went above and beyond in the end, which is what really matters.
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Quick update:

.........They say you get what you pay for and in this case, it couldn't be any more true. You pay a premium for their screens but you are treated like royalty when it comes to standing by their products.

If you are thinking about buying a projector screen, Stewart Screens should be on top of your list.


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Agree 100%.

It's why I have purchased 2 of their screens and won't consider another brand for my next screen. Quality and CS is top notch.

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I've had my Stewart Filmscreen Luxus Electriscreen with StudioTek 130 G3 material for over 6 1/2 years now ( bought March 2013 ). No wrinkles, or other problems. As good now as day one ! I love this screen !
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I've had my Stewart Filmscreen Luxus Electriscreen with StudioTek 130 G3 material for over 6 1/2 years now ( bought March 2013 ). No wrinkles, or other problems. As good now as day one ! I love this screen !


Nice screen! I can definitely see me using my new screen for years to come. The build quality on it is top notch. The new material wraps around the corners so well now, that I could have easily left the frame off and use it as a borderless screen if I wanted to. That's how good the fit is now. Stewart really did a good job rectifying this issue.

I will take a few shots of my screen this evening so you guys can check it out.


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