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It will take 1 - 2 weeks to build and a week to ship, on average. Depends on how busy Stewart is at any particular time.


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I placed an order 2 weeks ago for a motorized ST130 G4, do you know if there are any delays due to material availability or the Covid 19 virus?
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I placed an order 2 weeks ago for a motorized ST130 G4, do you know if there are any delays due to material availability or the Covid 19 virus?
Electric screens can take longer - the previous question was for fixed screens. That said, your dealer should have an estimated ship date from Stewart sent to them after Stewart confirms the order in their system.
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I placed an order 2 weeks ago for a motorized ST130 G4, do you know if there are any delays due to material availability or the Covid 19 virus?
So far, no issues with the Corona Virus and our employees. (Knocking on wood here)

Myself, woke up with sniffles and a slight cough so I am staying home as I don't want freak out people around me.

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So far, no issues with the Corona Virus and our employees. (Knocking on wood here)

Myself, woke up with sniffles and a slight cough so I am staying home as I don't want freak out people around me.
Thanks Don. Hope you feel better soon. I'm just getting over a cold myself. But fortunately that's all it is.
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I've had a Firehawk G3 w microperf that was installed in 2012, 8ft wide native Cinecurve-V in a room where seating is 10 and 15 feet for movie and streamed content (no gaming, no sports)
Room is mostly light controlled with black ceiling and front, beige on sidewalls and some light color on carpet.
I have always been aware of moire-type artifact and want to move on from the screen (which just snaps onto the frame)

Projector is JVC-RS540.

Can I poll peoples opinion on Grayhawk vs ST100 vs ST130?

There is no off axis viewing. Also, I wonder how the screen curve interplays with gain values (if at all since it's relatively small screen)

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What is your room like? With screen being curved, ST130 would be a better option than ST100. ST100 has 180 degree half angle, so the reflected light hits your curved screen. ST130 has a reduced half angle, so less reflected light hits your screen. If you have dark walls and ceiling, I would go ST130. If walls and ceilings are not dark, I would consider making them dark.
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Thanks Craig. It's been 4 weeks since my order was placed. I've started to get concerned and had my dealer check on it today. Stewart gave no explanation, just stated it should ship in another week. So 5 weeks total before shipping. I'm guessing this is not normal.

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Thanks Craig. It's been 4 weeks since my order was placed. I've started to get concerned and had my dealer check on it today. Stewart gave no explanation, just stated it should ship in another week. So 5 weeks total before shipping. I'm guessing this is not normal.

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Thanks Craig. It's been 4 weeks since my order was placed. I've started to get concerned and had my dealer check on it today. Stewart gave no explanation, just stated it should ship in another week. So 5 weeks total before shipping. I'm guessing this is not normal.

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I'm sure the corona virus state lockdown in CA is slowing things quite a bit. You just might want to cut Stewart some slack right now. It's like being under house arrest without an ankle monitor here right now.
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I'm sure the corona virus state lockdown in CA is slowing things quite a bit. You just might want to cut Stewart some slack right now. It's like being under house arrest without an ankle monitor here right now.
My screen order problem had nothing to do with the lockdown - we found out today that someone at Stewart "dropped the ball" and my order was never sent to production, apparently misplaced or lost a month ago. No big deal, we all make mistakes, and there are far more important things that need my attention right now. We just had a friend die from this virus who was a single mother to 6 kids and only 42 years old Where I live many of us have already been on voluntary lockdown since Monday and apparently it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better - I was shocked yesterday when I saw the California governor say that based on their models "we project that roughly 56% of our state’s population – 25.5 million people – will be infected with the virus over an eight-week period”.

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Thanks Craig. It's been 4 weeks since my order was placed. I've started to get concerned and had my dealer check on it today. Stewart gave no explanation, just stated it should ship in another week. So 5 weeks total before shipping. I'm guessing this is not normal.

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My screen order problem had nothing to do with the lockdown - we found out today that someone at Stewart "dropped the ball" and my order was never sent to production, apparently misplaced or lost a month ago. No big deal, we all make mistakes, and there are far more important things that need my attention right now. We just had a friend die from this virus who was a single mother to 6 kids and only 42 years old Where I live many of us have already been on voluntary lockdown since Monday and apparently it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better - I was shocked yesterday when I saw the California governor say that based on their models "we project that roughly 56% of our state’s population – 25.5 million people – will be infected with the virus over an eight-week period”.

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And I'm right here in Northern California, locked down with everyone else. Sorry to hear about your friend.
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And I'm right here in Northern California, locked down with everyone else. Sorry to hear about your friend.
Thanks Craig, wishing you the absolute best through all this craziness!


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Ok, how cool is that when Don Stewart himself PM's to follow up on your order?! That makes me feel well taken care of - thanks @Don Stewart ! Email sent.

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Ordered my new screen on Feb.26th and was advised it was picked up for delivery to Canada last week. Should be here soon
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Ordered my new screen on Feb.26th and was advised it was picked up for delivery to Canada last week. Should be here soon
Nice! Let us know how you like the ST130 G4. I'm trying not to set my expectations too high but based on the sample I tested (of the previous G3) I think this material is going to be stunning.

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Nice! Let us know how you like the ST130 G4. I'm trying not to set my expectations too high but based on the sample I tested (of the previous G3) I think this material is going to be stunning.

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I'm being hesitant as well with my expectations so as not to be disappointed. In any event, it will be larger and brighter than what I have now. If the colours and blacks are better it's a real win.
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I'm being hesitant as well with my expectations so as not to be disappointed. In any event, it will be larger and brighter than what I have now. If the colours and blacks are better it's a real win.
I think you are going to be very pleased.
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I'm being hesitant as well with my expectations so as not to be disappointed. In any event, it will be larger and brighter than what I have now. If the colours and blacks are better it's a real win.
What have you been using?

I've been projecting on Silver Ticket white which has an actual gain of .99, and the ST130 tested by Accucal at 1.27, so brightness should be a fantastic improvement at least in the broad center area. When testing my sample against my current screen all colors were noticeably brighter and punchier on the Stewart, and flesh tones were more natural and appealing (the Silver Ticket has a blue bias and I have not yet had a pro calibration off the screen).

Where I am trying to keep my expectations in check is periphery brightness compared to center, and the possibility of seeing artifacts in bright scenes. I originally thought I'd go with ST100 which I had tested a sample of, but seeing Craig Peer's screenshots led me to looking closer at ST130 and it sure does have great pop and vibrancy.

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What have you been using?

I've been projecting on Silver Ticket white which has an actual gain of .99, and the ST130 tested by Accucal at 1.27, so brightness should be a fantastic improvement at least in the broad center area. When testing my sample against my current screen all colors were noticeably brighter and punchier on the Stewart, and flesh tones were more natural and appealing (the Silver Ticket has a blue bias and I have not yet had a pro calibration off the screen).

Where I am trying to keep my expectations in check is periphery brightness compared to center, and the possibility of seeing artifacts in bright scenes. I originally thought I'd go with ST100 which I had tested a sample of, but seeing Craig Peer's screenshots led me to looking closer at ST130 and it sure does have great pop and vibrancy.

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The only screen has been a Grandview 1.0 gain. No complaints, but they don't make any other gain, and I was looking for larger but didn't want to reduce brightness. After much research decided on what has been described as 'reference' quality. I'm sure it won't disappoint.
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Nice! Let us know how you like the ST130 G4. I'm trying not to set my expectations too high but based on the sample I tested (of the previous G3) I think this material is going to be stunning.

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I just got an ST130 G4 installed. It is fantastic. I went from a dalite da-mat to the stewart ST130 G4. I can see some sparkles very mild only on some super all white screens which don't happen very often. But the overall increase in brightness was fantastic. I was able to turn my projector iris down by 6 notches (which dramatically improves contrast). Picture never looked better. Doubt you'll be disappointed.

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I just got an ST130 G4 installed. It is fantastic. I went from a dalite da-mat to the stewart ST130 G4. I can see some sparkles very mild only on some super all white screens which don't happen very often. But the overall increase in brightness was fantastic. I was able to turn my projector iris down by 6 notches (which dramatically improves contrast). Picture never looked better. Doubt you'll be disappointed.
May-be a silly question, but did you have to adjust any of the settings on your projector due to the brighter screen?
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May-be a silly question, but did you have to adjust any of the settings on your projector due to the brighter screen?
It's good to re-calibrate a projector if changing screen materials.
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Damn Coronavirus - no chance of any calibration till it settles down. Good thing is that JVC colors pretty good without any calibration. My lamp has 600 hours now and I am thinking of doing at least a gamma adjustment with my Spider 5


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The only screen has been a Grandview 1.0 gain. No complaints, but they don't make any other gain, and I was looking for larger but didn't want to reduce brightness. After much research decided on what has been described as 'reference' quality. I'm sure it won't disappoint.
That was wise to go with the higher gain as you increased screen size. For me, I am actually stepping down in size (from 152" wide to 140" wide) while simultaneously increasing gain, in order to remain in the much quieter low lamp mode on my JVC even as the bulb ages.

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I just got an ST130 G4 installed. It is fantastic. I went from a dalite da-mat to the stewart ST130 G4. I can see some sparkles very mild only on some super all white screens which don't happen very often. But the overall increase in brightness was fantastic. I was able to turn my projector iris down by 6 notches (which dramatically improves contrast). Picture never looked better. Doubt you'll be disappointed.
Good report, thanks!

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Received my new screen and was super stoked to instal and enjoy. Regretfully it does not appear to have the Somfy RTS motor as ordered. Waiting to hear back from my rep. Guess there's not much I can do but wait. Maybe they sent the wrong control which is the wall switch, but I highly doubt it. Too bad it turns a special occasion into a disappointing one.
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Received my new screen and was super stoked to instal and enjoy. Regretfully it does not appear to have the Somfy RTS motor as ordered. Waiting to hear back from my rep. Guess there's not much I can do but wait. Maybe they sent the wrong control which is the wall switch, but I highly doubt it. Too bad it turns a special occasion into a disappointing one.
Man that is a bummer. Let us know how this works out.

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Will do. I'm thinking may-be the RTS motor, which is extra, doesn't come with a remote. That doesn't make sense, but...
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If I get a Stewart Wallscreen in one material, can I get a new material in a few years if I want to? I bought the ST130 but wonder that in a few years of I get a laser PJ with higher light output, can I change my screen and get ST100?


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If I get a Stewart Wallscreen in one material, can I get a new material in a few years if I want to? I bought the ST130 but wonder that in a few years of I get a laser PJ with higher light output, can I change my screen and get ST100?


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Yes. The fixed Wallscreen with snaps is easy to change material. You will just need to have your screens serial number to get it made.


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Will do. I'm thinking may-be the RTS motor, which is extra, doesn't come with a remote. That doesn't make sense, but...
Any update? Have you been able to watch anything on the ST130 G4 to see how you like the material?

My screen is likely to arrive this week.

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