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aeon cinegrey 3D will be available in late August , and from what I saw here http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...ecting-screens

cinegrey 3D it is different from cinegrey 5D
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I am on the verge of ordering a TE125C-E20 screen from Elite. This is, of course, the 125" diagonal, 2.35:1 aspect ratio Cinetension 2 screen. I will be using it with an Epson 8350 projector. I'm replacing an Elite 100" diagonal original Cinetension screen in the 16:9 aspect ratio. Before actually ordering, though, I'm making one last check that with a 2.35:1 screen, 2.35:1 aspect ratio movies will fill the screen, but I'll have the black bars on the sides when watching a movie filmed in 1.78:1, or watching HD TV in 16:9. Correct?
I have that exact same screen (same size & aspect ratio). Just remember yes when projecting a 2.35 movie you will project black bars above and below your screen on the wall, but if your projector and walls are dark enough you won't see the bars at all. Also, when watching something in 1.78 you will have to re-zoom your image to a smaller size and refocus, so a projector like the 8350 won't be good to be paired with this screen unless you can reach the projector each time you want to watch something in 1.78/2.35. Also yes, watching 1.78 you will have black bars on the sides of the image projected. I would recommend getting a Panasonic AE8000u or a JVC projector with lens memory, you then will be able to change aspect ratios and zoom with a push of a button on the remote.

If you don't mind re-zooming and focusing each time you watch a movie in different aspect ratios compared to 1.78 tv/games, then you are fine using this screen and your projector you chose. If the projector will be ceiling mounted away from you, then you will need to choose a different screen aspect ratio 1.78 or a different projector with lens memory with motorized zoom/focus.

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aeon cinegrey 3D will be available in late August , and from what I saw here http://www.elitescreens.com/index.ph...ecting-screens

cinegrey 3D it is different from cinegrey 5D
Aeon screens with Cinegrey 3D are showing for sale now at focused technology.com

http://m.focusedtechnology.com/elite-ar120dhd3.html?utm_source=pricegrabber&utm_medium= ppc
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I have that exact same screen (same size & aspect ratio). Just remember yes when projecting a 2.35 movie you will project black bars above and below your screen on the wall, but if your projector and walls are dark enough you won't see the bars at all. Also, when watching something in 1.78 you will have to re-zoom your image to a smaller size and refocus, so a projector like the 8350 won't be good to be paired with this screen unless you can reach the projector each time you want to watch something in 1.78/2.35. Also yes, watching 1.78 you will have black bars on the sides of the image projected. I would recommend getting a Panasonic AE8000u or a JVC projector with lens memory, you then will be able to change aspect ratios and zoom with a push of a button on the remote.

If you don't mind re-zooming and focusing each time you watch a movie in different aspect ratios compared to 1.78 tv/games, then you are fine using this screen and your projector you chose. If the projector will be ceiling mounted away from you, then you will need to choose a different screen aspect ratio 1.78 or a different projector with lens memory with motorized zoom/focus.
Thanks, dmoneyman. You mentioned one thing, though, that is the thing that has me confused. You said that when watching a 2.35 movie, I'll have black bars above and below the screen. I was under the impression that the black bars that I now have, watching a 2.35 movie on my 16:9 screen do not contain any encoded video information. That is, the black bars represent the absence of an image. So, for instance, when I enlarge the height of the 2.35 image on the 16:9 screen, the black bars "disappear" rather than just get extended beyond the screen. I hope I'm explaining this in a way that makes sense. But this is exactly what has me confused. Thanks again.
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Thanks, dmoneyman. You mentioned one thing, though, that is the thing that has me confused. You said that when watching a 2.35 movie, I'll have black bars above and below the screen. I was under the impression that the black bars that I now have, watching a 2.35 movie on my 16:9 screen do not contain any encoded video information. That is, the black bars represent the absence of an image. So, for instance, when I enlarge the height of the 2.35 image on the 16:9 screen, the black bars "disappear" rather than just get extended beyond the screen. I hope I'm explaining this in a way that makes sense. But this is exactly what has me confused. Thanks again.
The black bars that you see when watching a 2.35 movie on a 16:9 screen don't represent absence of image...it's actual black video as part of the picture information. I would say 99% of the time you won't have anything in that area, but there are some weird exceptions (Life of Pi, e.g.).


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The black bars that you see when watching a 2.35 movie on a 16:9 screen don't represent absence of image...it's actual black video as part of the picture information. I would say 99% of the time you won't have anything in that area, but there are some weird exceptions (Life of Pi, e.g.).
Correct, so when you project an image (movie) in 2.35 format, it's really a 16:9 image that is projector but there are black bars on top and below the movie image so you projector will really be overshooting the 2.35 screen above and below when watching a movie. That's why you will need to re-zoom and re-focus everytime you change between 16:9 and 2.35:1.

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Got it, thank you. That is where my confusion was coming from. I've read info from so many different sources and, in a couple, it said that the black bars were not part of the image but were actually the absence of an image. Looks like I'll be sticking with my current screen or if I do decide to go with a new screen, sticking with a 16:9. Thanks, guys.
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Where does everyone buy their screens? From Elite directly, Amazon or else.

I see the screen I want M120UWH2 at different price points. Elite: $260,Amazon via wayfair $201 and TigerDirect $151. All prices are to the door. I just wanna make sure I'm not gettin a B stock item from TD/Amazon.
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I found the opposite, elite has the 135 inch aeon for 599 and amazon and other places have it for 650 or so.

They have a rebate for a free led kit right now and I asked the customer service if I could just get a code and order it all at once from them and they said no....

kind of stupid for a customer to buy direct from a company then have to fill out rebate form and sent to same company... but oh well.

But I am sure amazon is selling regular stock screens.
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I've been searching for a customer pic of the Aeon screen but no one has posted one. Also every mfr pic shows the screen with a thin velvet border. I want to know what it looks like without the velvet tape attached.

This screen could be epic for it's price point but there appears to be zero excitement for it online.
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Hi all - looking for a bit of advice please.
I'm adding a screen / projector to my lounge on a budget and have got a BenQ w1070 so looking for an electric screen.

I've spotted an Elite Screens Saker Tab Tension 110"
Had otherwise been considering a non tab screen, like a Sapphire / Grandview Cyber, which get good reviews at this price range.

It's got their Max White Fibreglass backing and a synchronous motor

I'm in the Uk and there doesn't seen to be too much info on Elite screens over here.

So, do you guys think this screen be a good choice?

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I have an Elite Screens 92" Cinetension2 screen I can't seem to unload and I need to make room for the new Saker 135" coming Thursday.
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I found the opposite, elite has the 135 inch aeon for 599 and amazon and other places have it for 650 or so.

They have a rebate for a free led kit right now and I asked the customer service if I could just get a code and order it all at once from them and they said no....

kind of stupid for a customer to buy direct from a company then have to fill out rebate form and sent to same company... but oh well.

But I am sure amazon is selling regular stock screens.
LED strips on eBay are much cheaper. They appear to be the same minus the markup. I'm going to go ahead and purchase a LED strip from ebay instead.
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Has anyone had experience with the Elite CineTension2 2:35 electrics?
I did a search, but got mixed reviews on Amazon.
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I'm trying to bump this along and make up my mind about going with the Elite CineTension2 in a 2.35:1.
It costs about 1/3 as much as a tensioned DaLite. However, the reviews are so mixed...Some people love them, some not so much. How about here at AVS? Has anyone had one for a while? Would you buy it again or just bite the bullet and go with DaLite or Draper?
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I'm trying to bump this along and make up my mind about going with the Elite CineTension2 in a 2.35:1.
It costs about 1/3 as much as a tensioned DaLite. However, the reviews are so mixed...Some people love them, some not so much. How about here at AVS? Has anyone had one for a while? Would you buy it again or just bite the bullet and go with DaLite or Draper?
I've had an Elite Screens Cinetension2 screen for around 2 years. First paired with an Epson and now a JVC projector. I've been happy with it and didn't feel that spending the extra money was worth it. I'm now upgrading to another Elite screen model, Saker tab tensioned acousticPro ultra HD screen material.

I don't doubt that there's something to the Da-lite, Draper, Seymour, etc screen materials, especially when it comes to being acoustically transparent, but IMO Elite presents a lot of bang for your buck and I have no problem recommending them.
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I've had an Elite Screens Cinetension2 screen for around 2 years. First paired with an Epson and now a JVC projector. I've been happy with it and didn't feel that spending the extra money was worth it. I'm now upgrading to another Elite screen model, Saker tab tensioned acousticPro ultra HD screen material.

I don't doubt that there's something to the Da-lite, Draper, Seymour, etc screen materials, especially when it comes to being acoustically transparent, but IMO Elite presents a lot of bang for your buck and I have no problem recommending them.
I can understand the appeal of the acoustically transparent material. FWIW, I use twin center speakers (above and below).
Do you have the CineWhite screen material? Any issues with the mechanisms or the surface?
Thanks.
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anyone know difference in VMAX2 and Saker?

It's not showing on the comparison and hard for me to tell other than white/black casing. Looking at 135" electric.

Update:
I've since found that Saker has synchronous motor vs tubular on VMAX2 for 135"
It also says aluminum white housing Saker vs steel black or white. Floating brackets incl Saker vs. No for VMAX2.

So which motor is better?
What's good/bad about floating brackets?
What type brackets for VMAX2?
Flush Wall/Ceiling mount for both, but suspended for VMAX2...what is suspended?

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I can understand the appeal of the acoustically transparent material. FWIW, I use twin center speakers (above and below).
Do you have the CineWhite screen material? Any issues with the mechanisms or the surface?
Thanks.
I have the powergain. No issues with mechanisms or screen material. Been a great screen, just going with a bigger size.
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Anybody purchase one of the Aeon series screens yet? I'm thinking about buying one but want to see other people opinions on the quality and would also like to see some actual user pictures of the unit installed.

If you have a Aeon can you please post a couple of images, I'm thinking about this screen and the more expensive Black Diamond but I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a gaming room screen setup.

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Anybody purchase one of the Aeon series screens yet? I'm thinking about buying one but want to see other people opinions on the quality and would also like to see some actual user pictures of the unit installed.

If you have a Aeon can you please post a couple of images, I'm thinking about this screen and the more expensive Black Diamond but I really don't want to spend that kind of money for a gaming room screen setup.
I've tried asking this question on Amazon with no response given. Trying to find any info, reviews, or even one customer pic for the Aeon screen is like pulling teeth with no painkillers. I just don't understand why there is absolutely zero talk of these screens anywhere. I just want a 110" with Cinegrey 3D. I was told by a rep at Elite Screen that this size will not be offered. Lo and behold the next day it was added to their product chart under the Aeon listing. I swear their customer service truly sucks and they suck at meeting production deadlines.
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Anybody offer opinions on VMAX2 vs newer SAKER line?
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Anybody offer opinions on VMAX2 vs newer SAKER line?
I can't say anything about the Vmax2, but I just got the Saker with the AcousticPro UHD screen material. The screen material has exceeded my expectations in terms of picture quality. I'm still getting everything set up to evaluate the acoustic properties of the screen.

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what size screen is that?
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what size screen is that?
135"
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How did you get a Saker with black casing? I talked to customer service and they were basically identical screens except Saker was only white.

I went with VMax2. Waiting for arrival.
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I can't say anything about the Vmax2, but I just got the Saker with the AcousticPro UHD screen material. The screen material has exceeded my expectations in terms of picture quality. I'm still getting everything set up to evaluate the acoustic properties of the screen.

Is the Saker available in 2.35:1 ?
It looks as if the only Elite electric screen available in 2.35:1 is the Cinetension2. Are there any others?
I found a reference to a model Peregrine Tension 235, but could not see where to purchase one:
http://epvscreens.com/products/elect...e-tension.html
Does anyone have any information on them?
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How did you get a Saker with black casing? I talked to customer service and they were basically identical screens except Saker was only white.

I went with VMax2. Waiting for arrival.
Just ordered from Amazon.

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Nope.
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I'm enjoying reading the descriptions. I'm trying to decide whether to go with the vmax 2 or a tensioned screen. Either way it would be 135" electric for my game room and Benq 1075. The screen will have to be hung from either 6" or 10" extensions to drop over the "daytime" TV that is on a stand right now but may be wall hung. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions or gotchas?


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I'm enjoying reading the descriptions. I'm trying to decide whether to go with the vmax 2 or a tensioned screen. Either way it would be 135" electric for my game room and Benq 1075. The screen will have to be hung from either 6" or 10" extensions to drop over the "daytime" TV that is on a stand right now but may be wall hung. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions or gotchas?


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I've had both tensioned and non tensioned and I think it makes a big difference. 135" is the size I have right now and the Saker has a 12" drop which I think is awesome and it hangs from the ceiling using carbiners which makes adding additional drop even easier.
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Has anyone had experience with the Elite CineTension2 2:35 electrics?
I did a search, but got mixed reviews on Amazon.
Thanks
Second Bump...
I read this entire thread and could not get a consistent read on the CineTension2 screens...It seems like some like them and some have terrible issues...
Is there anyone with recent experience with one?

I'm seriously considering:
Elite Screens TE125C-E20 CineTension2 Series Projector Screen - 2.35:1 - 125" Diagonal (115.2"W x 49.0"H) - CineWhite Screen Material

After seeing samples of the Cinewhite, it seems to "bleed" slightly more than the DaLite HP Progressive materials. I wonder if this is to disperse the image to a wider field of view.
Any thoughts? I could use some AVS feedback.
Thanks

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