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Cheers Jonny. Sounds encouraging! Did you get a chance to measure gain on any of these?

I do not have that equipment, I trust Seymour's reported numbers are accurate.
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The Glacier White PS will end up measuring about the same gain as the previous version Jeff tested. I think he's had a sample to test, as I know I sent him the Enlightor-Neo when it was developed. It would compare well with the ST100, as it doesn't have the high-gain elements that the ST130 has on it.
Interesting, so that means Glacier White PS will have a gain of 1.05 on axis.
But how does it compere to the ST100 on visible texture(not from sitting position) ? And how accurate does it track D65 ?
And also, how thick is the screen, can you see light on the backside ?

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I will be doing a new build in a few months and with all my research, I came to the conclusion that I want a Stewart screen. Do they sell them in Canada?

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I will be doing a new build in a few months and with all my research, I came to the conclusion that I want a Stewart screen. Do they sell them in Canada?
This is the SeymourAV thread, so you'll need to post your question in the Stewart thread.

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This is the SeymourAV thread, so you'll need to post your question in the Stewart thread.
Sorry I meant Seymour, don't know why I had Stewart on the brain.

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I will be doing a new build in a few months and with all my research, I came to the conclusion that I want a Stewart screen. Do they sell them in Canada?


Did you notice the the title of this thread and it is unfortunate that you would want to pay such a higher price for minimum amount of different. Of course the sell them in Canada but agin at crazy pricing from an authorized dealer.


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Did you notice the the title of this thread and it is unfortunate that you would want to pay such a higher price for minimum amount of different. Of course the sell them in Canada but agin at crazy pricing from an authorized dealer.


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Well if you would of read to the end of this thread you would of seen that I made a mistake when mentioning the name.
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I will be doing a new build in a few months and with all my research, I came to the conclusion that I want a Seymour screen. Do they sell them in Canada?
Yes, we sell into Canada no problem. Simply contact us for what you're interested in and we'll figure out shipping costs.

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Just wanted to say received my premiere 16x9 fixed frame 120" Glacier White screen w/ masking panels. The frame itself is very high quality and the install was very easy.

The masking panels are a great addition and make such a difference when watching content with bars. I was on the fence about ordering them but they look great. The panels are so easy to attach and remove and are very high quality. I got the single piece panels which I would also highly recommend.

Just wanted to post my impressions for anyone thinking about using Seymour for their screen.
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Just wanted to say received my premiere 16x9 fixed frame 120" Glacier White screen w/ masking panels. The frame itself is very high quality and the install was very easy.

The masking panels are a great addition and make such a difference when watching content with bars. I was on the fence about ordering them but they look great. The panels are so easy to attach and remove and are very high quality. I got the single piece panels which I would also highly recommend.

Just wanted to post my impressions for anyone thinking about using Seymour for their screen.

I'm thinking this exact combination (GW 16x9 120" wide with masking to scope). I was thinking of two piece panels, since 10' wide panels seem rather cumbersome to move around. Do you find the one piece panels easy to maneuver?
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I'm thinking this exact combination (GW 16x9 120" wide with masking to scope). I was thinking of two piece panels, since 10' wide panels seem rather cumbersome to move around. Do you find the one piece panels easy to maneuver?
I do not find the panels hard to move around. The panels are much easier to put in place than I had pictured in my mind before I purchased. I was on the fence also about the single panel but it looks amazing when attached and you would be hard pressed to tell the screen didn't come like that. The magnets just let you pop them right in place and the fit is great. I didn't want the noticeable split you can see with the 4 piece panels. I would say the single panel is the way to go at 120" if you are going panels, which I highly recommend once I started watching scope with panels I cant go back to bars.

For reference I am using a Epson 6050UB @16ft

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Just wanted to say received my premiere 16x9 fixed frame 120" Glacier White screen w/ masking panels. The frame itself is very high quality and the install was very easy.



The masking panels are a great addition and make such a difference when watching content with bars. I was on the fence about ordering them but they look great. The panels are so easy to attach and remove and are very high quality. I got the single piece panels which I would also highly recommend.



Just wanted to post my impressions for anyone thinking about using Seymour for their screen.


Did you go 120” diagonal or 120” wide? Jut wanted to clarify if they make that single panel 10’ wide or wider that’s all. I would like the masking panel to be 1 piece as well.

I am hoping Chris could answer what is the widest masking panel you could make?


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Did you go 120” diagonal or 120” wide? Jut wanted to clarify if they make that single panel 10’ wide or wider that’s all. I would like the masking panel to be 1 piece as well.

I am hoping Chris could answer what is the widest masking panel you could make?


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I have a 16x9 screen so the masking panels are on the top and bottom of the screen for scope content. My panels are almost 9' long.
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I do not find the panels hard to move around. The panels are much easier to put in place than I had pictured in my mind before I purchased. I was on the fence also about the single panel but it looks amazing when attached and you would be hard pressed to tell the screen didn't come like that. The magnets just let you pop them right in place and the fit is great. I didn't want the noticeable split you can see with the 4 piece panels. I would say the single panel is the way to go at 120" if you are going panels, which I highly recommend once I started watching scope with panels I cant go back to bars.

For reference I am using a Epson 6050UB @16ft

If you have any other questions I would be glad to answer them.

Thanks for the input! I am going to see if I can create space right under the floating screen to store them when not in use (I play a lot of PS4 in 16x9). If so, I'll definitely do the one piece panels.
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I think we did some around 20ft long. The reason we split the top/bottom into halves as standard is so that you're not swinging around a 10-12' long panel. But, if you think you can swing it (ha!), we'll make about anything you want.

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I think we did some around 20ft long. The reason we split the top/bottom into halves as standard is so that you're not swinging around a 10-12' long panel. But, if you think you can swing it (ha!), we'll make about anything you want.



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Thanks Chris for the info much appreciated and yes I think I can swing it (ha ha!)


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Polarization

Going to be ordering the Seymour matinee silver 2.0 or ambient visionaire 2.1

Just had a question regarding the screens polarization properties. Do these screen have polarization? Need to know since I’m getting a jvc rs2000 and read something about matching the correct 3D glasses with projector/screen.

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Going to be ordering the Seymour matinee silver 2.0 or ambient visionaire 2.1

Just had a question regarding the screens polarization properties. Do these screen have polarization? Need to know since I’m getting a jvc rs2000 and read something about matching the correct 3D glasses with projector/screen.

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They do retain polarity, so you can use them with polarized 3D systems (passive, or JVC, etc) The Ambient-Visionaire 1.3 is wide angle enough that it's polarity retention is borderline. The scatter screens (white, gray) do not retain polarity.

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After 3 years with my 12ft wide 16:9 SeymourAV Centerstage XD screen, I decided to FINALLY apply my magnetic 2.35 masking last night, just to switch it up. I love the look, and while I’m on the fence as to whether or not I”ll keep it like this, I encourage anybody here to go with 16:9 screen WITH scope masking so you have the option for either-or. It’s a great feeling knowing I can switch back and forth at will.


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After 3 years with my 12ft wide 16:9 SeymourAV Centerstage XD screen, I decided to FINALLY apply my magnetic 2.35 masking last night, just to switch it up. I love the look, and while I’m on the fence as to whether or not I”ll keep it like this, I encourage anybody here to go with 16:9 screen WITH scope masking so you have the option for either-or. It’s a great feeling knowing I can switch back and forth at will.


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...or a 2.35:1/2.40:1 screen with side masks. Either way, you are absolutely correct and the masks are a really nice visual upgrade, even with a high contrast projector.

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...or a 2.35:1/2.40:1 screen with side masks. Either way, you are absolutely correct and the masks are a really nice visual upgrade, even with a high contrast projector.



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True, true!!! Side masks work too!! And thank you!

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Man this CinemaScope masking is growing on me. I'm starting not to miss the 16:9 floor to ceiling image... Don't tell anybody though. Shhhh.

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Ya, but when watching sports the big 16:9 is nice I bet.

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I'm sure you hear this all the time but I'm looking to buy a screen and the options, opinions and information are overwhelming. I was hoping you could recommend a screen for me? My room in 16' 4" long x 14' 2" wide. It is a dedicated theater room with no windows and a large double door opening in the back right corner. The ceiling slopes back to front from 12' to 8' so the average height is about 10' high. Anyway, I only plan on having one row of seating. It can be anywhere in the room but I'm thinking the back of the seats will be about 3' off of the back wall. That puts my head 13' from the screen. I also will be using an epson 5040ub projector. The walls are dark gray and the ceiling and screen wall are black. I can completely control the light in the room but it would be nice to be able to leave some lights on, or at least dimmed during the sporting events, etc. So with that being said, which screen do you recommend? I really would like to have 120" diagonal 16:9 with masking panels for 2.4.
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I'm sure you hear this all the time but I'm looking to buy a screen and the options, opinions and information are overwhelming. I was hoping you could recommend a screen for me? My room in 16' 4" long x 14' 2" wide. It is a dedicated theater room with no windows and a large double door opening in the back right corner. The ceiling slopes back to front from 12' to 8' so the average height is about 10' high. Anyway, I only plan on having one row of seating. It can be anywhere in the room but I'm thinking the back of the seats will be about 3' off of the back wall. That puts my head 13' from the screen. I also will be using an epson 5040ub projector. The walls are dark gray and the ceiling and screen wall are black. I can completely control the light in the room but it would be nice to be able to leave some lights on, or at least dimmed during the sporting events, etc. So with that being said, which screen do you recommend? I really would like to have 120" diagonal 16:9 with masking panels for 2.4.
Sitting 13' back from a 105"w/120"d screen would be a bit small at 37 degree wide viewing. If you can scoot your seating forward or entertain a bit larger screen, the guidelines would vote for you getting up to around 40 degrees. Of course personal preferences reign and often room constraints are just that.

Kudos on the darker colors. Are you looking for acoustically transparent or non-AT?

For masking panels, we'll narrow it to the Premier frame (3.3"w) or the Metro (1.5"w).

Keep in mind that we make every screen custom to the 0.1" resolution, so let's make sure we get it perfect for you. As they say, you date the projector and marry the screen.

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Thanks for the reply. I could definitely go with a larger screen. I need to see how much vertical space I have above my media console. I don’t need an AT screen. I was in a local store that had an epson 5050 with a Da Lite Parallax that I thought looked really good. That made me think that maybe I wanted a ALR screen but if I can leave a few cans on (and dimmed) and still get a better picture with the projector I have then I’m up for that too. I was reading about the two glacier materials trying to decide if one of those might be a better option.

For reference, the room has:
-four cans on a dimmer that wash the screen.
-four overhead cans on a separate dimmer
-two cans in a soffit on each side of the room that are wall washers, on their own dimmer.
-led up lights in the soffit on their own dimmer
-led floor lights that go around the room built into the baseboards on their own dimmer

I would like the option to not have to be in a cave and still be able to have a watchable screen for sports, etc.
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First time seeing this phrasing...many thanks for the reminder as my room is close to screenwall phase.
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Thanks for the reply. I could definitely go with a larger screen. I need to see how much vertical space I have above my media console. I don’t need an AT screen. I was in a local store that had an epson 5050 with a Da Lite Parallax that I thought looked really good. That made me think that maybe I wanted a ALR screen but if I can leave a few cans on (and dimmed) and still get a better picture with the projector I have then I’m up for that too. I was reading about the two glacier materials trying to decide if one of those might be a better option.

For reference, the room has:
-four cans on a dimmer that wash the screen.
-four overhead cans on a separate dimmer
-two cans in a soffit on each side of the room that are wall washers, on their own dimmer.
-led up lights in the soffit on their own dimmer
-led floor lights that go around the room built into the baseboards on their own dimmer

I would like the option to not have to be in a cave and still be able to have a watchable screen for sports, etc.
The Glacier screens are still Lambertian, or scatter type screens, so they don't offer ambient light rejection. They're still intended for as perfectly dark a room as possible. The benefit, however, is that they offer a perfectly smooth, uniform image. The more aggressive you incorporate ambient light fighting features, the further you move away from reference. It can still look very good, and we always seek to marry the perfect type of screen to the room, but like in acoustics, starting with a better room is always better. To continue the analogy in acoustics, you can go with narrow dispersion horn drivers to reduce the ambient effects (just like ALR screens), and they can sound great, but take on a character of their own.

Make sure all the lights are as spot/narrow focus as possible. Wide or flood light angles wash more light on the screen, reducing image quality. You can get a surprising amount of audience lighting without degrading the image much, if your bulb angles are narrow enough.

If you stuck with the smaller 105"w/120"d then I think the Glacier Gray would be a good choice since an Epson would have plenty of power and could benefit from having its black level improved by 20% (and a theoretical room splash contamination resistance of 36%).

If you went larger - tougher to do with a non-AT screen - then that'd start to vote for the Glacier White to keep the luminance levels up. With either screen, sports and some lights would be fine, as you can kick the Epson up to a higher output picture mode and shadow details aren't as important.

If you want to talk specs and pricing, I'd email Jon at [email protected] or hit us up through the contact us template.

Cheers,
Chris
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