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Hi Jason,
Glad to hear that you are still a Sharp guy (DLP humor).
I got the impression that the the improved 3D on the latest JVCs meant that you had moved on.
What is your general impression of the 4K DLP projector market? Do you see any additions in 2017 to threaten JVC and Sony?
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Hi William,
It's all good. We still enjoy the Z30K, almost every night. The combination of the Darbee and the HP screen make the picture "pop" with that DLP "Sharpness". I have little desire to upgrade. When there is more 4K content available , perhaps.
+1 on your Z30K sports take. It's like having a 110" plasma display.
I'm glad that you are still enjoying yours.
The one for sale for $1700 seems like a great buy. Hard to believe that no one has stepped up. I believe that this PJ was one of the all time "under the radar" values.
Perhaps high rez DLP technology is not cost effective to manufacture. It depends on inherent sharpness, without the software tweaks that JVC and Sony use. However staying with DLP in the 4K+ resolution means having to use a very expensive lens. My $.02.
The companies saw OLED as the wave of the future. The new Benq 4K seems like a possibility. I continue to hold out hope...
If I wasn't projecting a ~150" 16:9 in a poorly light controlled sunny Florida living room, I'd keep it. I just need sheer brightness. But this projector is definitely the dark horse that won.

Don't care too much about native 4K. The Wobulation thingy with a 4K input would likely suffice. Don't think they need that much of a better lens for that.

I'm more interested in WCG/10 bit. And maybe HDR once projectors get bright enough with lasers. But I read you need a bat cave for that as any ambient light negates the benefits.

I'm still hoping the DLP camp is working on some major advancements. Maybe the whole dual DMD thing will materialize. Or something else will come about that can put them back in the game.

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I've been using the 30K a lot lately, still on my first lamp and I have FIVE extras!! this is my version of cheap laser/led since those lamps were practically free.

I'm going to check out Star Wars 3D tonight on it. Sharp G20 glasses are still the best 3D glasses on planet earth. very comfortable
Are you going to compare it to the JVC/Sony's?

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Hi Jason,
Glad to hear that you are still a Sharp guy (DLP humor).
I got the impression that the the improved 3D on the latest JVCs meant that you had moved on.
What is your general impression of the 4K DLP projector market? Do you see any additions in 2017 to threaten JVC and Sony?
I'm sure Jason will chime in, and while I haven't been tracking the new offerings too much, I don't remember seeing much talked about that could be considered all that great. Too high a MSRP, lack of specs, or poor performance, etc.
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I would imagine the only great looking unit announced so far is the one coming from Sim2. From what I hear they spent quite a bit of effort in extracting as much contrast from this new DMD as possible. That still probably only means 2000-3000:1 native contrast. Then factor in that they're using a lens that has "bragging rights", combined with their usually excellent custom video processing and I would imagine the image quality to be generally excellent. How it stacks up against current JVC and Sony offerings is hard to say going off of what we know so far but I suspect that it will be similar in overall image quality that we see from other high end 3 chip 1080p DLP units.
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I would imagine the only great looking unit announced so far is the one coming from Sim2. From what I hear they spent quite a bit of effort in extracting as much contrast from this new DMD as possible. That still probably only means 2000-3000:1 native contrast. Then factor in that they're using a lens that has "bragging rights", combined with their usually excellent custom video processing and I would imagine the image quality to be generally excellent. How it stacks up against current JVC and Sony offerings is hard to say going off of what we know so far but I suspect that it will be similar in overall image quality that we see from other high end 3 chip 1080p DLP units.
What model is that? Is that using the new "Wobulation" technique? WCG/10bit/HDR/4K input, etc?

And isn't Sim2 usually >$10K? I was hoping for something in the $5K range to compete with the likes of JVC even if it didn't get all the way there with contrast.
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What model is that? Is that using the new "Wobulation" technique? WCG/10bit/HDR/4K input, etc?

And isn't Sim2 usually >$10K? I was hoping for something in the $5K range to compete with the likes of JVC even if it didn't get all the way there with contrast.
None of the new DLP units using the new wobulation DMDs are priced anywhere near $5000 unfortunately. The Sim2 unit is $30000. I dont k ow what it supports in terms of UHD BD features. It won't be for a few years till we see one reach $5000 in my opinion. Same goes for a JVC or Sony 4K unit.
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None of the new DLP units using the new wobulation DMDs are priced anywhere near $5000 unfortunately. The Sim2 unit is $30000. I dont k ow what it supports in terms of UHD BD features. It won't be for a few years till we see one reach $5000 in my opinion. Same goes for a JVC or Sony 4K unit.
By the time we have a 4K DLP for $5K, there will be 100" roll up OLED displays

Seegs, didn't you get off the DLP bandwagon? I have not been carefully following Jason's thread, but I seem to recall that you went to the dark side (JVC).

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By the time we have a 4K DLP for $5K, there will be 100" roll up OLED displays

Seegs, didn't you get off the DLP bandwagon? I have not been carefully following Jason's thread, but I seem to recall that you went to the dark side (JVC).
I still have a soft spot for a good DLP projector. In fact, I always have at least one DLP projector on hand. Right now I have an InFocus IN82 which is an excellent single chip DLP projector that uses the big .95" DMD. As far as the smaller .65" units go, and I've said this many times before, the Z30K is by far the most well rounded unit I've had here. I just wish TI kept up on upgrading the performance aspect of DLP in general. It's a shame really because DLP really is the highest performance projection technology out there with one exception and that's why I've turned to "the dark side' as you put it. What can I say? My current JVC DLA-RS500 is spectacular. It's extremely sharp, very high in brightness, state of the art as far as on/off contrast goes, decent in terms of motion handling with 24p content, has the most well rounded 3D image I've yet seen (though the Z30K will be a tad cleaner in terms of crosstalk), and is semi-future proof from a UHD BD standpoint. There's just a lot to like about it and is, in my opinion, the best value out there in front projection today.
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None of the new DLP units using the new wobulation DMDs are priced anywhere near $5000 unfortunately. The Sim2 unit is $30000. I dont k ow what it supports in terms of UHD BD features. It won't be for a few years till we see one reach $5000 in my opinion. Same goes for a JVC or Sony 4K unit.
I fear the DLP has rested on it's laurels too long. They might be so far behind in the game and not having something close to $5K now that they're just furthering themselves out of the market sooner then later.

I think the 4K E-Shift is fine for myself (and most). It's the other features that JVC provides around this price point and below that matter more.



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Seegs, didn't you get off the DLP bandwagon? I have not been carefully following Jason's thread, but I seem to recall that you went to the dark side (JVC).
OLED has a long way to go still. I've seen burn in on some screen but don't know the model numbers. But roll up panels would be cool. Not a factor for me as I'm not worried about aesthetics. With a flat screen like that you need matching speakers that are flat and not many that are like that sound great and can get to reference.

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I still have a soft spot for a good DLP projector. In fact, I always have at least one DLP projector on hand. Right now I have an InFocus IN82 which is an excellent single chip DLP projector that uses the big .95" DMD. As far as the smaller .65" units go, and I've said this many times before, the Z30K is by far the most well rounded unit I've had here. I just wish TI kept up on upgrading the performance aspect of DLP in general. It's a shame really because DLP really is the highest performance projection technology out there with one exception and that's why I've turned to "the dark side' as you put it. What can I say? My current JVC DLA-RS500 is spectacular. It's extremely sharp, very high in brightness, state of the art as far as on/off contrast goes, decent in terms of motion handling with 24p content, has the most well rounded 3D image I've yet seen (though the Z30K will be a tad cleaner in terms of crosstalk), and is semi-future proof from a UHD BD standpoint. There's just a lot to like about it and is, in my opinion, the best value out there in front projection today.
The RS500 is great. I own one. But it does have it's downsides as well. Black field uniformity, lens streaking, etc.
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Are you going to compare it to the JVC/Sony's?

I'm sure Jason will chime in, and while I haven't been tracking the new offerings too much, I don't remember seeing much talked about that could be considered all that great. Too high a MSRP, lack of specs, or poor performance, etc.
not sure what future the new DLP projectors hold, the contrast so far has been terrible, missing current 2016 features like HDR and WCG and very expensive. Curious who their target audience is, it's definitely not me..

I still have the .95 DC4 Planar for gaming, Sharp 30K for TV general use and 3D and the RS600 for 2D / 3D BD + UHD. I'm good for at least another year as I finish up my audio upgrades then time to enjoy for a while.

The Sharp is still one of my favorite .65 3D DLP's made and plan on keeping it and using it for several years.
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I fear the DLP has rested on it's laurels too long. They might be so far behind in the game and not having something close to $5K now that they're just furthering themselves out of the market sooner then later.

I think the 4K E-Shift is fine for myself (and most). It's the other features that JVC provides around this price point and below that matter more.





OLED has a long way to go still. I've seen burn in on some screen but don't know the model numbers. But roll up panels would be cool. Not a factor for me as I'm not worried about aesthetics. With a flat screen like that you need matching speakers that are flat and not many that are like that sound great and can get to reference.



The RS500 is great. I own one. But it does have it's downsides as well. Black field uniformity, lens streaking, etc.
The streaking I only see if there's white text on an all black background (rare) and I don't personally ever see the bright corners because currently I'm zooming to fill my 120" 2.35:1 screen so the letterbox bars where the corners are get soaked up by the black velvet masking around my screen. Very rarely do I watch a 16/9 or 1.85:1 movie and an instance where an all black image on screen occurs is quite rare too which would be the only time I'd notice them anyways. For me these are very forgiving drawbacks compared to mediocre contrast performance 100% of the time even on the best DLP projectors.
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not sure what future the new DLP projectors hold, the contrast so far has been terrible, missing current 2016 features like HDR and WCG and very expensive. Curious who their target audience is, it's definitely not me..

I still have the .95 DC4 Planar for gaming, Sharp 30K for TV general use and 3D and the RS600 for 2D / 3D BD + UHD. I'm good for at least another year as I finish up my audio upgrades then time to enjoy for a while.

The Sharp is still one of my favorite .65 3D DLP's made and plan on keeping it and using it for several years.
Do you use the Planar because it has low input lag? Or because it has better sharpness with it's .95 chip and mixes better with processed digital games?

How do you like the 3D on the Sharp vs the JVC? I haven't had time to do much 3D on the JVC but I want to.

What audio upgrades are you planning? Speakers or subs or treatment?

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The streaking I only see if there's white text on an all black background (rare) and I don't personally ever see the bright corners because currently I'm zooming to fill my 120" 2.35:1 screen so the letterbox bars where the corners are get soaked up by the black velvet masking around my screen. Very rarely do I watch a 16/9 or 1.85:1 movie and an instance where an all black image on screen occurs is quite rare too which would be the only time I'd notice them anyways. For me these are very forgiving drawbacks compared to mediocre contrast performance 100% of the time even on the best DLP projectors.
I'm able to see the streaking on a lot of opening and closing credits. Even see it on subtitles sometimes.

I, and many others, are not running scope screens. My roommates are too technologically illiterate to be handle an A-Lens and pushing a couple extra buttons on the remote. So the bright corners do show up at night when watching low APL scenes.

But, I agree. They are not as bad as overall lack of performance and specs with current DLP's in 2016. If TI and the like don't do something by next CEDIA, I'd probably say DLP is dead and cannot come back from that in the <$5k price range.

And while I wouldn't say they are forgiving drawbacks, they are manageable. My old Oppo 103 was able to move the subtitles. Hopefully the new 203 will too when I get it next month. And the bright corners do dim some commensurate with the lamp.
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Greyscale and CMS

Any insight into dialing in greyscale on this unit with the lack of a proper CMS? I have never seen the type of "eye dropper" management system that this unit has (and only two values to boot).

Zombie or others- any input? I still love my machine, but am thinking of going to the JVC and I have a friend interested in one of my Sharps, but I would like to see how well I can make it work first.

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Any insight into dialing in greyscale on this unit with the lack of a proper CMS?
Greyscale isn't dialled-in with CMS (Color Management System). I had no problem with dialing-in greyscale with on-board PJ controls.

It's inaccurate color that is an undefeatable problem with this projector. I wasn't able to fix either wrong green hue/saturation or red luminance by using hardware controls or software.
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Any insight into dialing in greyscale on this unit with the lack of a proper CMS? I have never seen the type of "eye dropper" management system that this unit has (and only two values to boot).

Zombie or others- any input? I still love my machine, but am thinking of going to the JVC and I have a friend interested in one of my Sharps, but I would like to see how well I can make it work first.
Hi, you would need a calibrated meter to properly adjust the greyscale.

What is your room setup like? it is light treated to take advantage of the JVC's high native contrast?
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Hi, you would need a calibrated meter to properly adjust the greyscale.

What is your room setup like? it is light treated to take advantage of the JVC's high native contrast?
Thanks for the replies.

I have a basic Spyder III meter and HCFR software and have done basic greyscale calibration on my previous projectors with full color management systems so I am not quite a newbie (surely not like you, Elix and others using much more sophisticated software and meters). However with this PJ I don't really understand the red and blue controls- I assume this is merely saturation? Then, the CMS eye dropper system brings up the correct controls but literally makes me pick a color- two total. Do I pick solid red and blue from a calibration disc pattern (I have the AVS disc as well as HD basics) and use the grey patterns to try to dial it in as best as I can since I understand green push is less problematic- and what does that do for the previous red and green values, or do I leave them alone?

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There's 2 of these on ebay for a great price

member here at AVS, hardly used:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharp-XVZ300...-/112287742061

this one is a steal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SharpVision-...-/182445499895

These are better than the budget DLP's and have a very good DI for 2D and 3D. Fully motorized lens, best 3D glasses on market, etc. I still use mine all the time for TV and 3D on occasional as well. I still have 5 spare lamps for it and plan to use it till it breaks.

very fast boot up / shut down times.
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Wish I would have seen that while I was in the US the last few weeks. The BenQ HT2050 I planned to take back home got returned. Wasn't even in the same league as the Delta I got from Seegs.
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Hi zombie10k,

Would you take the Sharp xvz3000 over the Sony 45es?

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Would you take the Sharp xvz3000 over the Sony 45es?
Hi, it depends on your setup and overall use. it's not as bright as the 45ES if you need high lumen output,it's around 1200-1300.

overall it's more naturally sharp (better lens) and has better 3D. no low lag mode if using for gaming. Fully motorized lens is a great feature.

I run it next to my RS600 for TV use and extended 3D viewing since it's very easy on the eyes in 3D.

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I'm using a Benq W1070 in a family room setting, so it Looks like the 45es would be better.

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There's 2 of these on ebay for a great price

member here at AVS, hardly used:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharp-XVZ300...-/112287742061

this one is a steal:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SharpVision-...-/182445499895

These are better than the budget DLP's and have a very good DI for 2D and 3D. Fully motorized lens, best 3D glasses on market, etc. I still use mine all the time for TV and 3D on occasional as well. I still have 5 spare lamps for it and plan to use it till it breaks.

very fast boot up / shut down times.
Jason, The one for $1K is no longer showing current. Bummer.
If I had seen it in time, I might have followed up on it. At that price, you could have a spare. I can not imagine a better PJ for <$1K. Unbelievable buy...
We still enjoy our Z30K. Great PJ.
I keep hoping that Benq or one of the other DLP people will step up to the 4K plate. There seems to be some progress on that front, but we need powered lens controls. Probably still a few years off.
Nice to see some action on this thread. Anybody else out there still Sharp guys, besides Zombie and I?
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I am enjoying my Z17K - got at a throw away price
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Jason, The one for $1K is no longer showing current. Bummer.
If I had seen it in time, I might have followed up on it. At that price, you could have a spare. I can not imagine a better PJ for <$1K. Unbelievable buy...
We still enjoy our Z30K. Great PJ.
I keep hoping that Benq or one of the other DLP people will step up to the 4K plate. There seems to be some progress on that front, but we need powered lens controls. Probably still a few years off.
Nice to see some action on this thread. Anybody else out there still Sharp guys, besides Zombie and I?
I am also still enjoy my Z30K for 3D and Sports TV (European football) and I'm very happy with it.
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I haven't checked this thread in a while, but I've been using my XV-Z30000 almost every night for TV watching. It appears that my lamp is about to need replacing. What's the best place to find a new lamp for this model these days? I checked a few lamp retailers and most don't even seem to carry this model.

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Are these eBay sellers reputable? I'm a little dubious of someone shipping from China.

The $80 price for the bare lamp is certainly appealing, but I'd be concerned that it won't be as good or last as long as an OEM part. That one would also take a couple weeks to get here, and I'm not sure I can wait that long.

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As I said, I use this projector almost every night for TV watching. In my opinion, the picture is still acceptably bright, though it is perhaps a tad dimmer than ideal. I still figured that I'd have a while left on this lamp. However, last night a "Change the Lamp" warning message starting flashing on my screen.

I checked the lamp hours in the menu and it said 1,945 hours / 5%. According to specs I've read, this lamp should be rated for 5,000 hours in Eco mode, which is what I thought I had the projector set for. Strangely, the menu says that Eco mode is Off. I tried switching Eco mode to On, and the projector just shut down on me!

I restarted the projector and it seemed OK for a few minutes. I switched back and forth between Eco mode On and Off and saw no difference in picture brightness on my screen (or any audible difference in fan noise). Then, a couple minutes later, the projector shut down on its own again.

I tried resetting the lamp counter using a combination of buttons on the side panel per the manual's instructions. The projector simply turned on again, and the counter still says 1,945 hours. At this point, I manually turned off the projector myself and went to bed.

This is obviously troubling. I'm not sure if the problem is the lamp or something wrong with the projector itself. It's possible that the lamp was overheating. I will try again tonight and see what happens.

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This projector is not playing nice tonight. I (successfully this time) reset the lamp counter, but it made no difference. The projector will only run for a few minutes before shutting itself off. After the third time, I gave up.

I really hope that this is just a lamp issue and that replacing the lamp will resolve the shutdown problem. After much deliberation earlier today, I ordered an OEM lamp from projectorlampgenie.com. It was their last one of this model in stock. It cost me more ($365 plus another $20 for overnight shipping), but I'll have it tomorrow. It also has the 90 day manufacturer warranty.

Fingers crossed that a new lamp gets the projector working again.

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Nothing but bad news here tonight, unfortunately. I received the replacement lamp, installed it, and turned on the projector. Although the projector seemed to turn on and I could see a small amount of light coming through the front lens, I had no picture on screen. Then I noticed a burning smell, which quickly got stronger.

I immediately turned off the projector, unplugged it and removed the lamp.

If nothing else, I guess I'm glad that I bought the lamp from a retailer where I can return it, rather some random eBay user. However, I'm still not sure at this point if the problem is a defective lamp or if the projector itself is crapping out on me. And I'm afraid to try it again, for obvious reasons. I certainly don't think I'll be putting this lamp back in.

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I put the old lamp back in. The projector successfully turned on and produced a picture, but then automatically turned itself off again after less than two minutes.

Interesting thing I noticed this time: While it was running, I shined a flashlight into all the vents. The fan on the righthand side of the projector (unit is table-mounted) wasn't spinning, whereas the one on the left was.

Could that be a big problem? Can someone who has this model please check theirs to see if both fans spin while it's in use?

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I decided to be brave. I put the new lamp back in and turned on the projector. This time, I kept the remote in hand and a fire extinguisher by my side.

No burning smell this time, which is an improvement. At first, it seemed that I still had no picture. However, when I turned off all the lights in the room, I realized that there was an incredibly dim image on the screen, barely visible at all. I turned off the projector, removed the lamp, and reseated it, then tried again. Same result. This lamp is clearly defective and will have to go back. Even with nearly 2,000 hours on it, the old lamp produces a much brighter picture for a couple minutes before the projector turns off.

I'm still curious about the fan question, if anyone's able to answer that.

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