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The scary thing about most RAID is if one drive goes down and another drive hiccups with something as simple as a bad sector during rebuild it can take down the whole array.

I looked into unraid but realized real quickly the only reasonable back up would be a second identical unraid server and have them mirror.

I went from RAID10 to RAID5 back to a bunch of single disks with backups. None of it is elegant, and what is elegant is expensive.
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The scary thing about most RAID is if one drive goes down and another drive hiccups with something as simple as a bad sector during rebuild it can take down the whole array.
That's why I use 2 redundant parity drives in my unRAID tower. So 3 drives have to fail at the same time to bring the array down. And in the unlikely event that 3 disks fail at the same time, at least the healthy disks still have their content intact.
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I know a lot of you guys use the panasonic Blu-ray players with the jvcs. Have you ever used them for Netflix streaming?? I have the ub900 and the problem is it's outputting all Netflix content at 60 hz refresh rate which causes problems with stuttering and bandwidth glitches. No problems with discs at all. Have any of you encountered this and perhaps have a solution?

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There was a discussion on BR forum on this topic. Panasonic stated that Netflix is responsible for the 60hz refresh request in their app. The Roku is also stuck @ 60hz as well.

I was watching Lost in Space HDR last night and it looked great. I didn't see any issues with stuttering or glitches, it was quite smooth. I do have high speed Verizon FIOS fiber though. Which ISP do you have?
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I have a 100 Mb connection, measured at around 80. However I suspect it's something in the hdmi chain that is pressed to maximum capacity giving occasional glitches of white noise in the image. I can set the Panny to 50/60hz 4:4:4, but it gives me the glitches, 4:2:2 and they are still there. However, dropping to 4:2:0 and they go away. But now the image is 8 bit and HDR can't be selected anymore. UHD discs play fine without issues even when the setting is 4:4:4 but I figure that's due to the 24 hz frame rate and accompanying reduction in bandwidth requirement.
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That's why I use 2 redundant parity drives in my unRAID tower. So 3 drives have to fail at the same time to bring the array down. And in the unlikely event that 3 disks fail at the same time, at least the healthy disks still have their content intact.
Yup and with unraid if the hardware fails (e.g. motherboard etc) you can just put the harddrives and USB stick in a new computer and you're good again. Nothing to rebuild.
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Thanks for all the replies!

I have a 100 Mb connection, measured at around 80. However I suspect it's something in the hdmi chain that is pressed to maximum capacity giving occasional glitches of white noise in the image. I can set the Panny to 50/60hz 4:4:4, but it gives me the glitches, 4:2:2 and they are still there. However, dropping to 4:2:0 and they go away. But now the image is 8 bit and HDR can't be selected anymore. UHD discs play fine without issues even when the setting is 4:4:4 but I figure that's due to the 24 hz frame rate and accompanying reduction in bandwidth requirement.
Sounds like a cable issue if you're getting white noise/snow in the image at 60Hz, but its fine at 24Hz. Also if you set the Panny to 50/60Hz 4:4:4, that will be 8bit to remain within the 18Ghz limit, so keep it at 4:2:2 for 10/12Bit.
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The scary thing about most RAID is if one drive goes down and another drive hiccups with something as simple as a bad sector during rebuild it can take down the whole array.

I looked into unraid but realized real quickly the only reasonable back up would be a second identical unraid server and have them mirror.

I went from RAID10 to RAID5 back to a bunch of single disks with backups. None of it is elegant, and what is elegant is expensive.
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I think the Dune needs the next firmware update to be at parity with the Zidoo. it currently has no BD menu support. overall playback though appears fine in comparison. I still use my Dune Solo for 3D BD ISO since it has excellent BD menu support, better than the Zidoo currently.

I also have the Synology 1817+, it's been running non-stop for over a year with no problems. it's packed with UHD HDR + 3D BD ISO content and still have tons of room. great product!
I have a question regarding your experience with the Zidoo.

I did some testing and the Zidoo does play the forced subtitles that i placed in the mkv after I determined the correct subtitle to use with VLC... but ....

The Zidoo is having a heck of a time getting cover art downloaded for a lot of my movies I have ripped. I have not had this problem with the Dune 4k Pro or the Zapitti. Is this normal?

In other news I have determined that the Dune will play the forced subtitles just fine but I have to manually turn on subtitles. I have requested a fix for this from Dune.

The Dune 4k Pro seems superior to the Zidoo for three things:
1.) Movie cover art is automatic and works perfectly
2.) fast forward and rewind (the dune can do 2x, 4x, 16x, 32x and maybe more)
3.) Alphabetizing titles that start with "The" correctly by ignoring the word "The"... Anyone know how to get the Zidoo to ignore the "The" ?

Update: I figured out how to manually search for cover art on the Zidoo and this has worked and allowed me to have cover art for all movies... but it still does not work as well as the Dune 4k Pro.

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The Dune 4k Pro seems superior to the Zidoo for three things:
1.) Movie cover art is automatic and works perfectly
2.) fast forward and rewind (the dune can do 2x, 4x, 16x, 32x and maybe more)
3.) Alphabetizing titles that start with "The" correctly by ignoring the word "The"... Anyone know how to get the Zidoo to ignore the "The" ?

Update: I figured out how to manually search for cover art on the Zidoo and this has worked and allowed me to have cover art for all movies... but it still does not work as well as the Dune 4k Pro.
Are you using KODI? None of those are issues with that.

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Are you using KODI? None of those are issues with that.
Javs thanks for the recommendation. I will try Kodi on the Zidoo but I could not get it to access my Synology NAS with the Dune. I will try this morning and report back.

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Since you have the same NAS as me I hope you can help me figure out why Kodi can’t access my NAS through SMB. All other boxes can access it. Though I can see my western digital NAS with Kodi.

Update: I figured it out. I added the Synology as a server and it allowed me to type in the user id and password so all is working now!

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Since you have the same NAS as me I hope you can help me figure out why Kodi can’t access my NAS through SMB. All other boxes can access it. Though I can see my western digital NAS with Kodi.

Update: I figured it out. I added the Synology as a server and it allowed me to type in the user id and password so all is working now!

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You might want to try ZDMC which is the Zidoo fork of Kodi 17.6.1

https://github.com/zidootech/ZDMC/releases/tag/17.6.1

My understanding is it has better bitstreaming support.

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You might want to try ZDMC which is the Zidoo fork of Kodi 17.6.1

https://github.com/zidootech/ZDMC/releases/tag/17.6.1

My understanding is it has better bitstreaming support.

You don’t use bitstream ?


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Yes I do

But my zidoo is not connected to my projector.

If you use a zidoo and want Kodi you really should use zdmc.
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so... @zombie10k is there likely a projector refresh here will this thread shortly return to some projector shoot outs .... or you still content running the ole Xx000 jvc....

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so... @zombie10k is there likely a projector refresh here will this thread shortly return to some projector shoot outs .... or you still content running the ole Xx000 jvc....
Hi, I'm going to pick up the N7/RS2000 as soon as it's available. i've been patiently waiting for this. I recently calibrated a VW385, it's a nice projector but I think the RS2000 represents a better value than the 385's replacement at 2K more MSRP vs. the JVC.

I'm not sure what they are thinking at that $9,999 MSRP. They probably didn't expect this kind of release from JVC at a lower price point. The VW695 adds the higher output lamp, the 18GB HDMI and the 4K motion flow which are features that should have been released last year and now charging a 2K premium for it. Also no real changes in the Sony HDR tone mapping, the JVC auto tone mapping could be a huge feature for folks that don't want to run custom curves, an expensive lumagen, or a player like the Panasonic 820.

I am still keeping the RS600, this is a remarkable sample for panel uniformity & edge to edge lens focus, etc and only has ~1400 hours. So hopefully some good comparisons between the 2 to give folks an idea if it's time to let go of the previous gen.
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Hi, I'm going to pick up the N7/RS2000 as soon as it's available. i've been patiently waiting for this. I recently calibrated a VW385, it's a nice projector but I think the RS2000 represents a better value than the 385's replacement at 2K more MSRP vs. the JVC.

I'm not sure what they are thinking at that $9,999 MSRP. They probably didn't expect this kind of release from JVC at a lower price point. The VW695 adds the higher output lamp, the 18GB HDMI and the 4K motion flow which are features that should have been released last year and now charging a 2K premium for it. Also no real changes in the Sony HDR tone mapping, the JVC auto tone mapping could be a huge feature for folks that don't want to run custom curves, an expensive lumagen, or a player like the Panasonic 820.

I am still keeping the RS600, this is a remarkable sample for panel uniformity & edge to edge lens focus, etc and only has ~1400 hours. So hopefully some good comparisons between the 2 to give folks an idea if it's time to let go of the previous gen.

I am kind of wanting to wait until you did a comparison. Hopefully you get yours before November.
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I am kind of wanting to wait until you did a comparison. Hopefully you get yours before November.
I'll order it as soon as they are available, it will probably take a few days after cedia to get the pre-order pricing and US availability. In UK they were stating end of October which seems early but maybe we'll get lucky this year with an early release.

I wasn't sure what they were going to do this year, this is much more than I was expecting. better native on the panels (vs. RS4500 first gen), hopefully better ANSI as they stated, 100%+ full P3, Auto-Tone mapping, faster sync times, USB firmware updates, etc. It was good to hear JVC is reading the forums and taking feedback from their customers.
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I'll order it as soon as they are available, it will probably take a few days after cedia to get the pre-order pricing and US availability. In UK they were stating end of October which seems early but maybe we'll get lucky this year with an early release.

I wasn't sure what they were going to do this year, this is much more than I was expecting. better native on the panels (vs. RS4500 first gen), hopefully better ANSI as they stated, 100%+ full P3, Auto-Tone mapping, faster sync times, USB firmware updates, etc. It was good to hear JVC is reading the forums and taking feedback from their customers.
The tone mapping in the new JVCs can be great if done properly. I dont want to give up my oppo 203 until someone else bring out another player with inputs. I prefer less clutter. I kind of figured JVC was reading the forum because they provided the updates to the next JVCs. We just need to continue to help them improve their product. Some around here need to be compensated.
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I'll order it as soon as they are available, it will probably take a few days after cedia to get the pre-order pricing and US availability. In UK they were stating end of October which seems early but maybe we'll get lucky this year with an early release.

I wasn't sure what they were going to do this year, this is much more than I was expecting. better native on the panels (vs. RS4500 first gen), hopefully better ANSI as they stated, 100%+ full P3, Auto-Tone mapping, faster sync times, USB firmware updates, etc. It was good to hear JVC is reading the forums and taking feedback from their customers.

Were you thinking about the RS3000 at all?

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I am Definitely interested in the Rs2000. I'll sell my RS600 for whatever I can get after they come out.

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Were you thinking about the RS3000 at all?
if it were a crack or two over 5 figures I would have thought about it. I think the RS2000 is going to sell like crazy once released.

2K MSRP less than the VW695 with better native and the auto tone mapping will be big selling features.

Which projector(s) are you currently running?
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Hi, I'm going to pick up the N7/RS2000 as soon as it's available. i've been patiently waiting for this. I recently calibrated a VW385, it's a nice projector but I think the RS2000 represents a better value than the 385's replacement at 2K more MSRP vs. the JVC.

I'm not sure what they are thinking at that $9,999 MSRP. They probably didn't expect this kind of release from JVC at a lower price point. The VW695 adds the higher output lamp, the 18GB HDMI and the 4K motion flow which are features that should have been released last year and now charging a 2K premium for it. Also no real changes in the Sony HDR tone mapping, the JVC auto tone mapping could be a huge feature for folks that don't want to run custom curves, an expensive lumagen, or a player like the Panasonic 820.

I am still keeping the RS600, this is a remarkable sample for panel uniformity & edge to edge lens focus, etc and only has ~1400 hours. So hopefully some good comparisons between the 2 to give folks an idea if it's time to let go of the previous gen.
great to hear zombie ! look forward to your comparisons.... I remember last time around by some fluke we down under ended up wiht ours before yourselves. this time around i hope and wish you receive yours first up so can give a go. look forward to how find it vs your rs600

intersting on your thoughts on the sony, should post more wiht regards that, am sure many would appreciate. sony doesnt seem to get much airing these days, I suspect most perhaps dont quite see the value and looks like they just keep pricing them selves out of the running
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I guessed $9k MSRP for the N7. I wonder what actual selling prices will be. I'm finally at a place where I'm happy with my projector so I'm curious how long until the N7 replacement. If it's only a year like the RSx00 -> RSx20 I'll definitely wait, but if its 2 years, maybe I should buy...
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Can anybody tell me the actual reason(s) for JVC to have two variations of the same projectors, ie RS540 versus X790 or X7900 in Europe ?

I understand that the RS models are to be distributed only via authorized pro dealers and the others not, but is this enough to justify two seperate models for every one ?
And I do not mean only one having a gold lens bezel ....

RS meaning Reference Series, what is precisely meant by "reference" ?

Also here in Europe they both are European models and have the same warranty duration = 2 years.

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Can anybody tell me the actual reason(s) for JVC to have two variations of the same projectors, ie RS540 versus X790 or X7900 in Europe ?

I understand that the RS models are to be distributed only via authorized pro dealers and the others not, but is this enough to justify two seperate models for every one ?
And I do not mean only one having a gold lens bezel ....

RS meaning Reference Series, what is precisely meant by "reference" ?

Also here in Europe they both are European models and have the same warranty duration = 2 years.
Used to be two separate divisions. Some of the Reference Series projectors got extra perks, like included accessories. Some models got extra warranty and extra inspections. Now days, they are the same, though there is talk of bringing back the differences for the Reference Series line.
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Reason I asked is that we start seing X7900 and RS540 being sold now second hand and usually the RS are a little more expensive ... must be the golden bezel
Mind you I have a RS56 and I do like the bezel's color, but as I plan to move it to the service room just behind (because the noise in high lamp and the heat) it does no longer matter may even be white ......
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Ok I keep saying I am waiting to replace my X500 with a laser-based JVC that is sub $10Gs, but maybe this is rash. I have to think that the direct replacement can be had for around 4Gs? Likely going to be a big improvement in brightness, which is my only complaint with the X500, even in my velvet pit it lacks pop. After 1000 hrs it gets dull, I have a low gain reference screen. 500 more Lumens and I would be good for another 5 years.

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Anyone know how the Clear Motion Drive in the JVC NX7 compares with the Motionflow tech in the Sony 695? Do they both work in 2D and 3D?

It might be heresy, but my family and I usually like to watch films with the motion processing set to Low.

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