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Is it the right time to upgrade?

Hello all:

Coming to this thread after a long while, and hoping y'all had a happy Thanksgiving.

I've been on the lookout for a replacement for my Epson 6030UB - been really happy with its black level and 3D performance, but wanting to upgrade to 4K. So, have been eyeing the JVC NX-5 for a while now, given its relatively "reasonable" price vs. performance.

Was wondering if: 1) it is a substantially better performer and a worthy upgrade than the Epson, both in PQ/black levels as well as in 3D? 2) have there been substantial drops in the street prices for these, given the time on the market and any Black Friday deals? and 3) is there any news of a replacement in the next 2-3 months that would be worth holding out for?

Any responses and guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!

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Hello all:

Coming to this thread after a long while, and hoping y'all had a happy Thanksgiving.

I've been on the lookout for a replacement for my Epson 6030UB - been really happy with its black level and 3D performance, but wanting to upgrade to 4K. So, have been eyeing the JVC NX-5 for a while now, given its relatively "reasonable" price vs. performance.

Was wondering if: 1) it is a substantially better performer and a worthy upgrade than the Epson, both in PQ/black levels as well as in 3D? 2) have there been substantial drops in the street prices for these, given the time on the market and any Black Friday deals? and 3) is there any news of a replacement in the next 2-3 months that would be worth holding out for?

Any responses and guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!
The RS1000 / NX5 is an excellent 4K projector. I've had it in my theater and it looked excellent - even compared to my RS4500. Go for it. There will be no replacement projector until this time next year at the earliest.
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Also be sure to pick up a Panasonic UB420, UB820 or UB9000. The UB9000 has specific modes for NX projectors, but it's really expensive. The UB420/820 are otherwise excellent as well since they also have a built in HDR Optimizer.
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Also be sure to pick up a Panasonic UB420, UB820 or UB9000. The UB9000 has specific modes for NX projectors, but it's really expensive. The UB420/820 are otherwise excellent as well since they also have a built in HDR Optimizer.
Well...with the new firmware tone mapping, you really don't use these features anymore.
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Well...with the new firmware tone mapping, you really don't use these features anymore.
So the big deal that Panasonic & JVC made over the UB9000 specific JVC/NX mode is now pointless?
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So the big deal that Panasonic & JVC made over the UB9000 specific JVC/NX mode is now pointless?
the latest update means N series dont need tone mapping by the player anymore. now its dynamic tone mapping frame by frame or scene by scene done by the projector. so hence nothing is needed from the player any more

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Hello all:

Coming to this thread after a long while, and hoping y'all had a happy Thanksgiving.

I've been on the lookout for a replacement for my Epson 6030UB - been really happy with its black level and 3D performance, but wanting to upgrade to 4K. So, have been eyeing the JVC NX-5 for a while now, given its relatively "reasonable" price vs. performance.

Was wondering if: 1) it is a substantially better performer and a worthy upgrade than the Epson, both in PQ/black levels as well as in 3D? 2) have there been substantial drops in the street prices for these, given the time on the market and any Black Friday deals? and 3) is there any news of a replacement in the next 2-3 months that would be worth holding out for?

Any responses and guidance will be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!
the current epson are good budget and affordable machines. but if can afford the jvc n series definitely go for it. be no looking back can assure you. am a prior epson and jvc (previous gen) owner

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Thank you all so much for your input. I think I should be ready to pull the plug on the NX-5 very soon. Need to test out the 3D performance now. Guess I'll head to a local Best Buy with a couple of 3D movies, my XPAND emitter and universal glasses - excited!
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Also be sure to pick up a Panasonic UB420, UB820 or UB9000. The UB9000 has specific modes for NX projectors, but it's really expensive. The UB420/820 are otherwise excellent as well since they also have a built in HDR Optimizer.
Yes, already have the UB820, but as David mentioned....oh well.
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the current epson are good budget and affordable machines. but if can afford the jvc n series definitely go for it. be no looking back can assure you. am a prior epson and jvc (previous gen) owner
I'm sure you're right, sir. Have been interested in JVCs for a while now, but price was a little out of range, plus 3D wasn't as strong as on the Epson in previous models. Both issues are now non-issues....touch wood! ;-)

The only thing that would've made it perfect is the addition of Dolby Vision on the JVC, considering the amount of titles and 4K player(s) I own that support it. Judging by all of your comments on this forum, though, I figure that's not a major miss?

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I'm sure you're right, sir. Have been interested in JVCs for a while now, but price was a little out of range, plus 3D wasn't as strong as on the Epson in previous models. Both issues are now non-issues....touch wood! ;-)

The only thing that would've made it perfect is the addition of Dolby Vision on the JVC, considering the amount of titles and 4K player(s) I own that support it. Judging by all of your comments on this forum, though, I figure that's not a major miss?

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hi rokker, can assure you 3D while not upto epson in jvc x35 it took some 20 min to warm up its panels and then was good. this wasnt the case from x7000 (previous gen) jvc. I couldn't fault 3D on that and most definitely the n series continue to be very good in 3D

re dolby vision... non event... the way dynamic tone mapping works really doesnt bother me in the least projectors cant do dolby vision. the whole dolby vision thing i have a feeling is turning into a bit of a fail overall. when see how god the current gen jvc do uhd uhdr I think will know what I mean

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... re dolby vision... non event... the way dynamic tone mapping works really doesnt bother me in the least projectors cant do dolby vision. the whole dolby vision thing i have a feeling is turning into a bit of a fail overall. when see how god the current gen jvc do uhd uhdr I think will know what I mean
I would not rule out Dolby Vision just yet. There has been interesting exploration of the Player LED Dolby Vision processing, which can be made to work with any HDR10 capable display or projector.

Sony and Dolby arrived at the DV Profile 5 Layer (DV LLDV), specifically used with Sony displays which have no internal DV processing, in which case a DV LLDV capable player will handle all of the DV processing, sending the result to the display as an DV mapped HDR10 signal with a PQ curve.

The interesting thing, is by using certain HDFury devices, the DV LLDV capable player can be spoofed into thinking it is connected to one of the Sony displays (A1 OLED), when it is actually connected to my JVC X990. The results have been a very interesting tone mapping solution for those of us who do not own a newer JVC, a Lumagen or run a configuration of MadVR.

Please follow the link in my thread for about 12 pages of discussion and examples of application of this hack.
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