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Question for those of you who wrapped plywood with velvet for the ceiling. Did you velvet sag at all over time? I stretched mine over frames on the walls and it definitely loosened a little bit over time. Curious about the ceiling because I don't want it to sag down off the ceiling.

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Question for those of you who wrapped plywood with velvet for the ceiling. Did you velvet sag at all over time? I stretched mine over frames on the walls and it definitely loosened a little bit over time. Curious about the ceiling because I don't want it to sag down off the ceiling.

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If it sags on the ceiling you won't notice it. You can also use spray adhesive when you mount it to the wood but when I did that, I still had wrinkles. But one of the velvets supposedly doesn't sag at all.
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If it sags on the ceiling you won't notice it. You can also use spray adhesive when you mount it to the wood but when I did that, I still had wrinkles. But one of the velvets supposedly doesn't sag at all.
Yeah i am using the joann fabrics velvet and it definitely loosened and left wrinkles/waves in it after time. Its not noticeable unless you get up on it. I was more afraid on the ceiling because of gravity coming more into play.
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Question for those of you who wrapped plywood with velvet for the ceiling. Did you velvet sag at all over time? I stretched mine over frames on the walls and it definitely loosened a little bit over time. Curious about the ceiling because I don't want it to sag down off the ceiling.

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I sprayed 3M 77 adhesive on the plywood and the back of the velvet before wrapping. No sag
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I sprayed 3M 77 adhesive on the plywood and the back of the velvet before wrapping. No sag
Seems like that is the way to go, thanks for the replies!
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Seems like that is the way to go, thanks for the replies!
FWIW, I recommend that you do this with at least two people. The chances of wrinkles being in the final product are much higher if you try to do this by yourself. That was recommend by someone else on this thread and I highly recommend it as well.

On the other hand, if you can find the non-stretch version of black velvet, then you can do it without adhesive and just use staples on the back side to hold it in place and end up with a much smoother end product.
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FWIW, I recommend that you do this with at least two people. The chances of wrinkles being in the final product are much higher if you try to do this by yourself. That was recommend by someone else on this thread and I highly recommend it as well.

On the other hand, if you can find the non-stretch version of black velvet, then you can do it without adhesive and just use staples on the back side to hold it in place and end up with a much smoother end product.
Yeha I did most of my panels with my wife helping. How can you tell which is non stretch? I would probably go with the same Joanne stuff though anyways just to make sure it matches. I would like to do a square shape that ends in a half circle to make it look a little nicer but I dont know how hard that would be to stretch out evenly.
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Yeha I did most of my panels with my wife helping. How can you tell which is non stretch? I would probably go with the same Joanne stuff though anyways just to make sure it matches. I would like to do a square shape that ends in a half circle to make it look a little nicer but I dont know how hard that would be to stretch out evenly.
This is another very popular velvet choice and it's cheaper than Joanns. http://www.syfabrics.com/View.aspx/s...e-Velvet/681/0
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This is another very popular velvet choice and it's cheaper than Joanns. http://www.syfabrics.com/View.aspx/s...e-Velvet/681/0
THAT'S the one that states it is NO STRETCH and what I would now use instead of JoAnnes or any other for making panels.
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THAT'S the one that states it is NO STRETCH and what I would now use instead of JoAnnes or any other for making panels.
I thought it was no stretch but couldn't remember. It will be covering most of my walls as soon as I can talk myself into parting with the money.
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THAT'S the one that states it is NO STRETCH and what I would now use instead of JoAnnes or any other for making panels.
How well do you think it would match the Joann Royalty Velvet 3, that's what my walls are in currently.
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How well do you think it would match the Joann Royalty Velvet 3, that's what my walls are in currently.
I have no clue but others may know. My guess would be that with the lights off, little to no difference.
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I have no clue but others may know. My guess would be that with the lights off, little to no difference.
Just remembered that I cant run a board on the ceiling, was going to remove some spotlight that are up there to do it but they have actually been useful. Have to rethink what I want to do :O
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Just remembered that I cant run a board on the ceiling, was going to remove some spotlight that are up there to do it but they have actually been useful. Have to rethink what I want to do :O
Why not? Just cut a hole in the panel and place the trim ring for the light, over the panel.
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Kinda looses the spirit of the thread. Almost everything in this thread is about finding the blackest material that will absorb the most light.


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Kinda looses the spirit of the thread. Almost everything in this thread is about finding the blackest material that will absorb the most light.


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so what would you suggest?
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Kinda looses the spirit of the thread. Almost everything in this thread is about finding the blackest material that will absorb the most light.
Agreed. Someone must have decided the original title was politically incorrect. But the new one is way too long. Something like: "The Blacker The Theater, The Better The Image", while still too long, is more descriptive !!
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so what would you suggest?
How about a contest and the winner gets a new $35,000 JVC projector ........... or not !
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so what would you suggest?
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"The Blacker The Theater, The Better The Image"
I really like this one, and can't think of something better at the moment.
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I don't want this to be a elongated process.....(trying to carry on with my daily life too )....so hit me up with something that makes sense and I'll make this a one-off change. ....then we can all move on with our lives.
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How about a contest and the winner gets a new $35,000 JVC projector ........... or not !
I like this idea even more lol. Maybe we should leave it open to suggestions for a bit.
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Why not? Just cut a hole in the panel and place the trim ring for the light, over the panel.
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They aren't just hole lights, they have like 18" rails they slide down and are pretty large, I may still try something similiar with velvet, but I need to paint the lights and rails as well. I still need to decide on side walls and floor, so trying to prioritize which one I will do first hehe.
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I don't want this to be a elongated process.....(trying to carry on with my daily life too )....so hit me up with something that makes sense and I'll make this a one-off change. ....then we can all move on with our lives.

The original didn't need changing but.... this will do.

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They aren't just hole lights, they have like 18" rails they slide down and are pretty large, I may still try something similiar with velvet, but I need to paint the lights and rails as well. I still need to decide on side walls and floor, so trying to prioritize which one I will do first hehe.
Okay. You have track lights. That is even easier. Take the track light down. Drill small hole in panel for electrical wiring. Pull wire through hole and secure panel. Then install track lighting.
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The original didn't need changing but.... this will do.

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I put the syfabrics onto my drop ceiling tiles using staples. While the fabric doesnt stretch, it is very very hard to get it super tight in this case. So I still ended up with some small amount of loose fabric. Depending on how picky you are and how low your ceiling is you may be ok. Also plywood has less give than a ceiling tile, so you could pull it harder. But I do remember pulling quite firmly and still ended up with some sagging on the biggest tiles (2X4) I remember pulling hard enough that I would lose staples on the other side sometimes. But again drop ceilings are softer than plywood.
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I have been eying those for some of the same reasons ! How does it do on all that black fabric now ? My only concern with shelling out 150-200 bucks for high end one was performance on the black fabric.
When the lights are off you most certainly can see the dots (stars ????) on the black material, including black velvet. The "clouds" is a different story !!
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