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A family so on the same page about the image quality...brings a tear to my eye. FULL ROSCO. That needs to become a term for anyone who paints the whole room in TV Black.

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Nice. Ender's Game. Great book . Underrated movie. Loved Harrison Ford's performance.

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I used the Benjamin Moore paint line called Fine Paints of Europe, in flat black. You can literally mark the wall up, and it wipes perfectly clean with a damp towel. It's very pricey, but worth the money if you're worried about standard flat black which leaves marks all over the place if you rub against it.

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I used the Benjamin Moore paint line called Fine Paints of Europe, in flat black. You can literally mark the wall up, and it wipes perfectly clean with a damp towel. It's very pricey, but worth the money if you're worried about standard flat black which leaves marks all over the place if you rub against it.

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Any pics of how it handles reflection?
How would I go about doing that? Just take a pic of the wall with my phone, with the flash on, in the dark room?

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How would I go about doing that? Just take a pic of the wall with my phone, with the flash on, in the dark room?

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I think manual mode, high ISO and no flash, should work well. That's what I did to take this picture: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post58665912

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I think manual mode, high ISO and no flash, should work well. That's what I did to take this picture: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post58665912
Looking at your picture, I have the same, or less reflection on my back wall and ceiling, when the 5050 is on. My side walls, and the first 5 feet of my ceiling, are covered in black velvet.

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I used the Benjamin Moore paint line called Fine Paints of Europe, in flat black. You can literally mark the wall up, and it wipes perfectly clean with a damp towel. It's very pricey, but worth the money if you're worried about standard flat black which leaves marks all over the place if you rub against it.

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FYI...Fine Paints of Europe isn't a Benjamin Moore product line. You may have bought it from a Benjamin Moore independent dealer though.

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FYI...Fine Paints of Europe isn't a Benjamin Moore product line. You may have bought it from a Benjamin Moore independent dealer though.
Ah, my bad. I thought it was their line, because I bought it at Benjamin Moore.

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Ah, my bad. I thought it was their line, because I bought it at Benjamin Moore.

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I like that movie a lot. Time to watch it again !
Oh yeah. I went out and bought the UHD DISC. The Atmos track really delivers.

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For everyone going with paint, why? I mean why are you not doing velvet instead? Waf? Cost? Project time?

It seems like most who do black paint eventually come to the realization that they should have skipped the paint and gone straight to velvet.

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For everyone going with paint, why? I mean why are you not doing velvet instead? Waf? Cost? Project time?

It seems like most who do black paint eventually come to the realization that they should have skipped the paint and gone straight to velvet.

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I would imagine WAF and the difficulty with how to attach the velvet. I went black velvet and would never go back but it was not easy attaching black velvet to ceiling tiles or masking off the grid with protostar flocking tape. 3 days to do the project properly and still some sag of the velvet on the ceiling tiles where the adhesive spray just didn't do its job. Then living with the spray smell for about a week. My wife is very understanding. Not all are that understanding. She also made the velvet curtains for my side walls 14 ft back on each side. That was about another day for cutting and sewing for her.

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For everyone going with paint, why? I mean why are you not doing velvet instead? Waf? Cost? Project time?

It seems like most who do black paint eventually come to the realization that they should have skipped the paint and gone straight to velvet.

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I find paint ( Rosco ) is black enough for my room, and way easier to cover a drywall soffit with than velvet. And it might depend on the room. My ceiling is a peaked ceiling at 11' tall - with black carpet hardly any light even reaches it.

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This video paint is ridiculous. I painted the ceiling straight out of the can and I poured 6 cups of their clear acrylic recommended by rosco to avoid scuff.. the results are absolutely amazing.. I've ever seen a paint so dark in my life

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This video paint is ridiculous. I painted the ceiling straight out of the can and I poured 6 cups of their clear acrylic recommended by rosco to avoid acuff.. the results are absolutely amazing.. I've ever seen a paint so dark in my life

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This video paint is ridiculous. I painted the ceiling straight out of the can and I poured 6 cups of their clear acrylic recommended by rosco to avoid acuff.. the results are absolutely amazing.. I've ever seen a paint so dark in my life

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Hmmmm ... does the clear acrylic make it more reflective ? I painted my walls with the Rosco Video Paint - TV Black as well and it is amazing if you keep hands off the wall.


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Hmmmm ... does the clear acrylic make it more reflective ? I painted my walls with the Rosco Video Paint - TV Black as well and it is amazing if you keep hands off the wall.


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Just got to my kids practice.. really quick..
I don't see any added reflection I'm sure if add more and more u will get some but that's what they recommended.

I will try to scuff it tomorrow and let u know but I know it scuffs less than straight out of the can.. it also feels a little different than straight put of can..

I put 6 cups per gallon..

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Hmmmm ... does the clear acrylic make it more reflective ? I painted my walls with the Rosco Video Paint - TV Black as well and it is amazing if you keep hands off the wall.


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I asked the same question. Jorge said for the ceiling and first 4 feet on the sidewalls he would not be mixing in the acrylic but for the rest of the room the scuff marks would drive him crazy. This was his livable solution.

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I asked the same question. Jorge said for the ceiling and first 4 feet on the sidewalls he would not be mixing in the acrylic but for the rest of the room the scuff marks would drive him crazy. This was his livable solution.

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With this mix I ended up painting the wall behind the screen which never gets touched and I went full blown and painted both side walls completely.. this paint is ridiculous..Black black and black..

From my quick overview today and I say quick.. it does scuff but much much less.. straight from the can u just touch it and it scuffs.. now you have to press and move your fingers up and down to scuff it. Touching and pressing to get it to scuff is two completely different things..

One thing I noticed.. straight from the can you can't even use a wet rag and blot it as it will leave a mark of the wet towel.. NOW YOU CAN

Had I added 8 cups per gallon would had been even better and I can probably guarantee you the tone wouldn't had changed..

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With this mix I ended up painting the wall behind the screen which never gets touched and I went full blown and painted both side walls completely.. this paint is ridiculous..Black black and black..

From my quick overview today and I say quick.. it does scuff but much much less.. straight from the can u just touch it and it scuffs.. now you have to press and move your fingers up and down against the pain to scuff it. Touching and pressing to get it to scuff is two completely different things..

One thing I noticed.. straight from the can you can't even use a wet rag and blot it as it will leave a mark of the wet towel.. NOW YOU CAN

Had I added 8 cups per gallon would had been even better and I can probably guarantee you the tone wouldn't had changed..

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Impressive @jorgebetancourt, looking forward to your review once your painting is complete. Looks good and dark!
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For everyone going with paint, why? I mean why are you not doing velvet instead? Waf? Cost? Project time?

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If the entire room is velvet it does make it a bit of a scary, less inviting place to enter, especially for kids.

I have painted with the Rosco Video Paint - TV Black and I think it is a good compromise as the room is still ultra dark...

But I do plan to make some velvet panels for about 6’ of wall and I plan to cover the cabinet top that is just under my screen with velvet panels. Velvet certainly beats any paint by a wide margin for absorbing light.


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Well said @farsider3000. My wife hates the black velvet half of the room, but the teenage daughters think its cool.....They do appreciate the black velvet for watching flicks.
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Ok I tested it today. There is definitely a layer of protection on it.. still scuffs but nothing like straight out of the can. U can blot out the scuff with light damp cloth by pressing gently against it. Without the flat acrylic it scuffs just by looking at it..

I don't see any difference with light reflecting. It's just way too dark and flat to see any difference. I could had easily done 8 cups per gallon of flat acrylic and gotten away with it..

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Ok I tested it today. There is definitely a layer of protection on it.. still scuffs but nothing like straight out of the can. U can blot out the scuff with light damp cloth by pressing gently against it. Without the flat acrylic it scuffs just by looking at it..

I don't see any difference with light reflecting. It's just way too dark and flat to see any difference. I could had easily done 8 cups per gallon of flat acrylic and gotten away with it..

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That's great to know. Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if you can add that clear acrylic to the Velour Black paint ( since I still have some ) ?
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That's great to know. Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if you can add that clear acrylic to the Velour Black paint ( since I still have some ) ?
My understanding is made for all rosco stage paints.. I can give u the email to the sales guy I spoke to.. I tell you straight from the can you couldn't even look at it without scuffing..

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