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Yes. Where do you think I should put the rod to make it look good on this.
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I'm not seeing the whole wall, but I would probably make it like this (see attached image), with the rod supports installed on the oblique section of the ceiling. This way, the rod won't interfere much visually with the columns and lights (you can even look for a rod with a color similar to the gray of the ceiling), and the curtain can open half for each side.
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Thanks. I get what you suggest. I will attempt to try that as soon as I get my hands on 30 yards of velvet that I ordered off amazon.
I want to keep the room simple with velvet curtain tied when not watching movie and when we do, just untie it to cover the whole wall without much work.
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I built some velvet covered panels for the sides of my speakers but, like the rest of the velvet I used, it has stretched (a bunch) and now looks quite unsightly. I would like to find some velvet that has NO stretch and, it does not need to be acoustically transparent.
Any recommendations? Was it Sy Fabrics?

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I built some velvet covered panels for the sides of my speakers but, like the rest of the velvet I used, it has stretched (a bunch) and now looks quite unsightly. I would like to find some velvet that has NO stretch and, it does not need to be acoustically transparent.
Any recommendations? Was it Sy Fabrics?
Would Triple Black Velvet work? I don’t think it is stretchy and works better then anything that I have seen for absorbing light.
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I built some velvet covered panels for the sides of my speakers but, like the rest of the velvet I used, it has stretched (a bunch) and now looks quite unsightly. I would like to find some velvet that has NO stretch and, it does not need to be acoustically transparent.
Any recommendations? Was it Sy Fabrics?
I use triple black velvet from Hobby Lobby, the non stretch kind and works great. Make sure you go to website and print the 40% off coupon before going there!

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I use triple black velvet from Hobby Lobby, the non stretch kind and works great. Make sure you go to website and print the 40% off coupon before going there!
Do they have triple black that is stretch and non stretch?
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Do they have triple black that is stretch and non stretch?
The black triple velvet is non stretch which is 45 inches wide (which I use to drape over speakers like you do). They do have stretch black velvet but not sure of the exact name. There are few diff types of black velvet at the store last time I was there.

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The black triple velvet is non stretch which is 45 inches wide (which I use to drape over speakers like you do). They do have stretch black velvet but not sure of the exact name. There are few diff types of black velvet at the store last time I was there.
Thanks. I actually don't drape it over the speakers. I cut some wood panels the exact size of the size of the side of the speakers and attached with some "sticky stuff" that won't mar the finish of the speaker.

I will go online and buy some of that fabric and thanks again.
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Thanks. I actually don't drape it over the speakers. I cut some wood panels the exact size of the size of the side of the speakers and attached with some "sticky stuff" that won't mar the finish of the speaker.

I will go online and buy some of that fabric and thanks again.
Depending on how much you need you may get a better deal buying in 30 yard bolts from Amazon. Vendor "Fabric Bravo - Better Service!"
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Thanks. I get what you suggest. I will attempt to try that as soon as I get my hands on 30 yards of velvet that I ordered off amazon.
I want to keep the room simple with velvet curtain tied when not watching movie and when we do, just untie it to cover the whole wall without much work.
If it were my room I would not cover up the columns. I would build fabric panels between the columns and if you want to reduce the glare of the columns, wrap them too, perhaps in a complementary color for some contrast.
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Depending on how much you need you may get a better deal buying in 30 yard bolts from Amazon. Vendor "Fabric Bravo - Better Service!"
Thanks but I need very little. While the velvet on the ceiling has stretch a bunch, it is not noticeable. I just need a couple of yards for the two front speakers.

@ereed . Is THIS the non stretch velvet you used?

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I have done a lot of searches on this thread to try to get definitive answers to my concerns, but still feel the need to post!

I want to wrap my room in the equivalent of triple black velvet (double black in Australia). That means ceiling, some parts of the side walls and rear wall in velvet-wrapped panels, and most of the side walls in velvet curtains (because that's an easy way to cover some doors and cupboards).

I'm wondering how this will affect acoustics in the room. I do have an Anthem AV receiver, so can run some EQ. But would, say, acoustic panels at first reflection point still be a good idea, and if so, would they be OK behind the curtains? There are currently some panels on the rear wall (pic attached). Those outside diffuser panels, according to a flashlight test, throw way too much light back on to the screen. The rectangular peaks are quite reflective. So should I just get rid of those panels altogether, or just build a frame around them covered in velvet? The seats will be replaced with new black ones.

Secondly, I'd like to double check the best way to install velvet with regard to sheen. Is the idea, with the projector displaying something bright, to install the velvet so that I can't see sheen from the seating position? Presumably that means that if I stand at the screen looking back towards the seating position, I will see the sheen, meaning that some light will be reflecting back on to the screen. Which way is best?

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I bit off topic...do you like your HT seats with the "love seat" in the middle?

My HT room isn't super wide, and to go 4 seats and have some room I think that's the option I"ll have to go (I have 3 seats now). Thanks!

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I bit off topic...do you like your HT seats with the "love seat" in the middle?



My HT room isn't super wide, and to go 4 seats and have some room I think that's the option I"ll have to go (I have 3 seats now). Thanks!

I have four seats but I shifted the seats against the right wall so that the second seat from the left is directly centered on my screen. Steps down to the first row area are on the left side of the room and my room really isn’t wide enough for four seats as the rightmost seat is slammed against the wall.

I would not want to have four seats if no seat is in the exact center listening / viewing position.


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I have four seats but I shifted the seats against the right wall so that the second seat from the left is directly centered on my screen. Steps down to the first row area are on the left side of the room and my room really isn’t wide enough for four seats as the rightmost seat is slammed against the wall.

I would not want to have four seats if no seat is in the exact center listening / viewing position.


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It's funny. I have my 2nd seat dead center, but I find myself now sitting on the end. Only time I have to be in the middle is when gaming.

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I bit off topic...do you like your HT seats with the "love seat" in the middle?



My HT room isn't super wide, and to go 4 seats and have some room I think that's the option I"ll have to go (I have 3 seats now). Thanks!

I have four seats but I shifted the seats against the right wall so that the second seat from the left is directly centered on my screen. Steps down to the first row area are on the left side of the room and my room really isn’️t wide enough for four seats as the rightmost seat is slammed against the wall.

I would not want to have four seats if no seat is in the exact center listening / viewing position.


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That’s why I went with a 3 seater.
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That’s why I went with a 3 seater.
Dude...I love that. Do you have a front shot of your room?
I'm guessing my room is slightly wider than yours, but not much.
But again, if I have the "love seat" in the middle of the row of four.

I love that black paint.

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That’s why I went with a 3 seater.
Mine setup is a bit different as it's a sports room too (the bottom TV int he middle does not stay, the 2 on each side of my projector are mounted, but covered during movie times with black curtains)

But yeah, I am gonna take the tiles down and drywall, and go all black now I think.
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That’️s why I went with a 3 seater.
Dude...I love that. Do you have a front shot of your room?
I'm guessing my room is slightly wider than yours, but not much.
But again, if I have the "love seat" in the middle of the row of four.

I love that black paint.
Thanks! It’s nothing fancy but works great.
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Nice. I have that same star wars poster in my HT room.

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Nice. I have that same star wars poster in my HT room.
Good eye. I have a Back to the Future poster as well. Two great movies!

This is the outside of my theatre.
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I would not want to have four seats if no seat is in the exact center listening / viewing position.
Mine is the same way (shifted left). NO ONE should be allowed to post on AVS if there is not a seat in the sweet spot!
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Good eye. I have a Back to the Future poster as well. Two great movies!

This is the outside of my theatre.
Dude...nice. Is that a Pioneer Plasma?

I have a BttF Poster as well, but I rotate mine out. It's currently covered up by "The Watchmen"

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This is the outside of my theatre.
Dude...nice. Is that a Pioneer Plasma?

I have a BttF Poster as well, but I rotate mine out. It's currently covered up by "The Watchmen"
That is a pioneer plasma.
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You should try moving that sub to the corner. I'd be willing to bet it will hit harder in the corner.

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Thanks but I need very little. While the velvet on the ceiling has stretch a bunch, it is not noticeable. I just need a couple of yards for the two front speakers.

@ereed . Is THIS the non stretch velvet you used?
Your link doesn't take me to direct product. Here is the item. https://www.hobbylobby.com/Fabric-Se...Fabric/p/45441

I also attached the product info that came with my velvet.
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I bit off topic...do you like your HT seats with the "love seat" in the middle?

My HT room isn't super wide, and to go 4 seats and have some room I think that's the option I"ll have to go (I have 3 seats now). Thanks!
Yes, I do like it. Like you, it’s the only way I can get 4 seats across the room. Yes, it means you can’t sit right in the middle, but it doesn’t bother me.
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Despite his claims of 30 years experience.....He didn't even bother reading the instructions in the can.....and didn't dilute the paint at all. I see some of you are diluting up to 1:1. Instructions call for up to 10% water. He went all in with a spray gun .

Don't get me wrong....the ceiling looks fantastic. But it seems like this was the equivalent of 3 coats if he had rolled it... Had to order 3 more gallons just in case.....For 535 SF, we are going to go through 5 Gallons of paint.....is it just me or this seems a little ridiculous?

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If it were my room I would not cover up the columns. I would build fabric panels between the columns and if you want to reduce the glare of the columns, wrap them too, perhaps in a complementary color for some contrast.
That could look nice, and for contrast on the columns the velvet could be placed in the opposite direction so it would reflect a different shade of gray. But covering the walls and wrapping the columns is a lot of hard work and you really need to do it skillfully to avoid having it look like an amateur's work. With curtains, you get evenly black walls with much less effort and you can leave the walls untouched to use the room for other purposes.

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I have both GOM FR701 and Velvet in my current build but will be switching to Whaley's Devore which was tested by @ARROW-AV to be very transparent and just as dark as the best velvets. See his product link here:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post58469010

GOM is nice and sturdy but looks like an office cubicle wall... high end burlap. Spandex is AT but will not be attractive on its own and may be too shiny even if in matte finish.

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