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Black velvet fixes all....but once you start it’s hard to stop. Lol
Sooo true!
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Sooo true!
Were you able to get the velvet from Hobby Lobby?

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Not a bad idea, but it would be a challenge due to room layout (where projector is vs where my desks are, etc).

As far as that Justice League scene I mentioned, I just watched that part on my iphone, and it looks washed out there too (a bit), so I'm wondering if I'm focused on the "wrong" clip.

Is there a test pattern or certain scene in a film you all use to check to see if reflections are causing a washed-out image?

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With all the trouble on that film I would not be surprised if it was just poor quality raw footage.

There is a troublesome shot in La La Land that drove me nuts trying to figure out what was wrong with my system until I finally figured out it was the film itself. When the roommates are dancing in the street singing "someone in the crowd" the streetlights cause lens flares or something as they go out of the frame. I was sure my A-lens was messed up or my masking was causing reflections.

Others have already described the test you need to do, the flashlight test. If that test shows results on an empty screen then every image is likewise impacted. You would not be able to see it in particular projected image without actually changing your room with the image on screen, which would be almost impossible to A-B test unless someone is pulling curtains back and forth for you.

I suspect the image you would want to test with would be something REALLY extreme like The Revenant, not a mixed light/dark image.
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That carpet though - it needs to be black !
Had no idea what a difference a real black carpet would make....I will never go back to anything else.
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Had no idea what a difference a real black carpet would make....I will never go back to anything else.
Yup! Of course once I put it in the wife said I was in charge of vacuuming up any " popcorn storms " ( at least it can look like a popcorn storm hit with some friends ).
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Yup! Of course once I put it in the wife said I was in charge of vacuuming up any " popcorn storms " ( at least it can look like a popcorn storm hit with some friends ).
LOL!!! The only thing mine told me was "Have fun vacuuming that bad boy."
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Had no idea what a difference a real black carpet would make....I will never go back to anything else.
That looks great! black carpet changes the whole look of the room and completes the blackout experience. Velvet room, black carpet + high contrast projector = great viewing experience

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Were you able to get the velvet from Hobby Lobby?

I did. It arrived today. I started modifying the panels today (got rid of the super stretchy velvet) and will finish tomorrow. I have yet to take the velvet out of the shipping box but I will assume it is the non stretch version !!


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.


Update: finished the panels today. Works perfect.
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Just picked up 10yds of JF's Royal Black and a Brother sewing machine. Plan on sewing back those gold sides and making sheets with loops at each end to run furring strips through so they'll run from the ceiling to the bottom trim. Pop a few nails through the strips and hopefully be good to go.

For now the plan is to do one width sheets to the left and right of the screen. 135" screen and a 12' width wall. With the screen down, you'll see nothing but black. If that works, I'll do the same thing to the front of the side walls.

Definitely like the black carpet idea. Could do an 8x12 that would cover the room width and just reach the sofa. Would a dark maroon or navy work well too and provide a little color when the lights are on? Thinking with dark tan walls, some navy or maroon would compliment and still darken things up.

The Pic is before the new screen and putting the center channel on a stand, moving the little console off to the side. So the drop down screen goes another 3-4 inches lower meeting the center channel on its stand. That's a 120" screen and the drop down is 135".

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I have French Doors like you, so I bought the velvet, sliding curtain rod, and the fabric tape, to make a curtain to cover the doors. I seamed 3 sections of the velvet together to make one long curtain. I made a mistake with the tape, and had to pull apart 2 pieces of the curtain. That tape is so strong, the velvet ripped before the tape released. You're not going to find a better price on velvet, then you get from the link I posted. I had plenty of velvet left over to do the other side wall from the doors, and about 5 feet deep of my ceiling.


45" Black Triple Velvet-30 Yards Wholesale by the Bolt https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EEJSG90..._ak1TDbFSQZKWP


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Therm O Web PeelnStick Fabric Fuse Tape 5/8 Inch x 20 Feet (3346) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0018BVNIS..._ml1TDb4DTTXHT

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I ordered everything in your list and just finished watching the first movie in the theater with velvet. What a big difference it made. My wife was skeptical when I put up the rods but once she came in watching the movie when it's done, she loved it.

My question is I need some extra velvet and they don't seem to sell in smaller quantity. I wonder if you have something left over that I can get off your hand and pay the shipping?
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I did. It arrived today. I started modifying the panels today (got rid of the super stretchy velvet) and will finish tomorrow. I have yet to take the velvet out of the shipping box but I will assume it is the non stretch version !!


Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.


Update: finished the panels today. Works perfect.
Awesome! Glad it worked out!

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Now I'm wondering if I should return the sewing machine and get some of that fabric fuse.

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Now I'm wondering if I should return the sewing machine and get some of that fabric fuse.

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Definitely don't need a sewing machine. That fabric fuse is as good as sewing, trust me.

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I ordered everything in your list and just finished watching the first movie in the theater with velvet. What a big difference it made. My wife was skeptical when I put up the rods but once she came in watching the movie when it's done, she loved it.



My question is I need some extra velvet and they don't seem to sell in smaller quantity. I wonder if you have something left over that I can get off your hand and pay the shipping?
I do have some extra. How much are you looking for?

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I do have some extra. How much are you looking for?

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I just went to the theater and did some quick calculation and I'm looking at about half the roll that they sell. Maybe 18 yards.
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I just went to the theater and did some quick calculation and I'm looking at about half the roll that they sell. Maybe 18 yards.

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I'm not sure if I have that much. I'll check in the morning and let you know.

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Definitely don't need a sewing machine. That fabric fuse is as good as sewing, trust me.

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To the hobby lobby it is tomorrow.

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I'm currently trying to tack some velvet up on the ceiling but am struggling forming straight edges given the stretch of the fabric. Any ideas?
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You mean you’re tacking it on the ceiling directly? If that’s the case, I think the only way to do get straight edges is if you wrap the them around some straight thin material before you tack them. Better if you sew it to said material.


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I hung mine from the ceiling using cheap $2-3 curtain rods. I straightened the rod, no worries if it's not perfectly straight, glued the velvet to it and screwed it onto the ceiling.
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I hung mine from the ceiling using cheap $2-3 curtain rods. I straightened the rod, no worries if it's not perfectly straight, glued the velvet to it and screwed it onto the ceiling.

I think the OP was talking about covering the ceiling, not hanging it to cover the sides.




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Looking if someone has some devore fabric left over? Want to see the difference against triple black velvet in person and if enough cover my lcr speakers behind an acoustic screen.

Willing to pay retail price and shipping.
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I think the OP was talking about covering the ceiling, not hanging it to cover the sides.




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Ahh, I missed that, thanks. While I'm here, I see some of you are putting your speakers behind the velvet. I tried it and the sound is very muffled. How far behind the velvet are you getting good results?
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I'm looking to put black carpet on my HT room which is 14x17.
Anyone has any recommend for a plush, good black carpet?
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I just went to the theater and did some quick calculation and I'm looking at about half the roll that they sell. Maybe 18 yards.

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That's what I have left.

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That may work. still better than buying a full roll.
I'm in Houston, 77407. Let me know if we can work out some arrangement.
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That may work. still better than buying a full roll.

I'm in Houston, 77407. Let me know if we can work out some arrangement.

Thanks a lot.
Trying to ship that on the plastic spindle, might be tough. I'm not sure how the velvet handles being folded, but if I could get it off the roll and fold it, it would be easy to get it in a box for shipping.

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Has anyone tried black stick on carpet squares on their ceiling?

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Trying to ship that on the plastic spindle, might be tough. I'm not sure how the velvet handles being folded, but if I could get it off the roll and fold it, it would be easy to get it in a box for shipping.

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You can fold velvet, no problem at all. Mine has been folded and unfolded several times before I finally installed it.

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Trying to ship that on the plastic spindle, might be tough. I'm not sure how the velvet handles being folded, but if I could get it off the roll and fold it, it would be easy to get it in a box for shipping.

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Yeah, fold it up and put in an amazon box would be the easier way. I don't think it would take much space. I can provide a mailing label.
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Yeah, fold it up and put in an amazon box would be the easier way. I don't think it would take much space. I can provide a mailing label.
Let's move this chat to PM. I don't want to clog the thread with our personal conversation.

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I'm looking to put black carpet on my HT room which is 14x17.
Anyone has any recommend for a plush, good black carpet?
Just got a KANE Supernova Black....Oh my god....this has to be most comfortable carpet I have ever put my feet on.....Not cheap ($10-$11/sf through any dealer outside of Georgia)....but if you order from a dealer around Dalton, GA, even with shipping to your place it will end up being closer to $6.5/sf.
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