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I am looking for advice from the collective group. I am really struggling to get a good result from my velvet project. I purchased 30 yards from the Amazon vendor. I used the 3M adhesive to wrap the fabric around 4x8 panels of foamboard insulation. The results when applying were perfect. I go to hang the board and it looks perfect for the first day or so. Then it either starts to bubble or sags. This material seems to defy physics and continuously produce sag no matter how many times I pull and pin the edges. I am just at a loss. I have put 40+ hours into it and the results look terrible. Is there a fabric out there that doesn't sag? Any other suggestions?


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I've used commando cloth, which is used as black out material in live theater. It's more of a cotton material and not as effective as velvet but easier to work with. In fact, I made my panels today. I used underlayment board wrapped in the commando cloth in 2 x 4 panels. I haven't attached them to the ceiling yet, but will do so this weekend. I used the same cloth in my previous theater. I never had any sagging issues. Just a tight pull and staples when covering the boards.

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Thank you Sorny for your insight. I certainly respect your philosophy and appreciate a different viewpoint. My wife and I took down a panel today and stripped off the velvet and re pinned it really taught with no adhesive. Hung it back up and we will see the results in the next 24 hours!

PS: Massive upgrade with the velvet in your room. Strong work!
Good luck with your quest for no bubbling/sag. Sy triple black is claimed to be "no stretch", but I can't say for certain that is the case; I don't know if the Amazon stuff is the same or not. I notice no sag in mine except where I didn't pull it super tight to start with, but I'm also not going for the last quarter of a percent of perfection. I can say that any wrinkle, sag, or whatnot will have no detrimental impact to the actual function of the velvet in use though, and may actually work better as uneven surfaces will absorb more reflections (velvet's "nap" or weave is what makes it work; wrinkles and sagging on large amounts of it does the same thing).

I agree the velvet and black rug picture quality improvement was beyond massive. And, for being in one of the expensive forums, this is one of the cheapest things I've done in the home theater. The $ per improvement quotient is off the scale for adding velvet when it comes to how little money it is compared to the gains in contrast/black levels.

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I was wondering if anyone has any good pics or opinions comparing black velvet to other dark colored fabrics like spandex, commando cloth, or others. Seen lots of paints compared, but not so much fabrics. I like the idea of an all velvet room, but I really enjoy the room ambience more when its dark, but not black. Anyone use a dark colored velevet instead of black?
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I was wondering if anyone has any good pics or opinions comparing black velvet to other dark colored fabrics like spandex, commando cloth, or others. Seen lots of paints compared, but not so much fabrics. I like the idea of an all velvet room, but I really enjoy the room ambience more when its dark, but not black. Anyone use a dark colored velevet instead of black?
hi, this might help provide some perspective. I've seen many of the different materials in my HT, imo there is the triple black velvet and everything else takes a distant second. Even the Protostar materials which is used to line telescopes is multiple shades lighter than the TBV.

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hi, this might help provide some perspective. I've seen many of the different materials in my HT, imo there is the triple black velvet and everything else takes a distant second. Even the Protostar materials which is used to line telescopes is multiple shades lighter than the TBV.

http://projectiondream.com/en/protos...evore/bild3-2/

100% Agree with this post. Triple Black Velvet is unmatched for reducing light reflections. I used the protostar flocking tape on my actual grid and wrapped my panels in TBV. You can really see the difference in bright scenes on screen.

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Thank you all for the thoughts so far. It is not noticeable at all while watching a movie. I am just a perfectionist and I want it to look professional. I do have the lights on occasionally for watching games etc and I would like it to look as good as possible.

The first pic is just the theater.

Pic #2 shows what the panels looked like 2 days after hanging.

Pic #3 is what the panels look like after taking the material back off and re-pinning several times to get rid of the sag but as you can see the sag continues to occur.

I guess I can live with the #3 pic but I don't like it. I would rather go back to painted walls if the velvet is gonna look like #2 pic.
My lord, I just assumed that this stuff would be dead easy to work with but it looks to be difficult enough. Anyway who cares when the lights are off and anyhow the odd wrinkle doesn’t affect its effectiveness.
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Good luck with your quest for no bubbling/sag. Sy triple black is claimed to be "no stretch", but I can't say for certain that is the case; I don't know if the Amazon stuff is the same or not. I notice no sag in mine except where I didn't pull it super tight to start with, but I'm also not going for the last quarter of a percent of perfection. I can say that any wrinkle, sag, or whatnot will have no detrimental impact to the actual function of the velvet in use though, and may actually work better as uneven surfaces will absorb more reflections (velvet's "nap" or weave is what makes it work; wrinkles and sagging on large amounts of it does the same thing).

I agree the velvet and black rug picture quality improvement was beyond massive. And, for being in one of the expensive forums, this is one of the cheapest things I've done in the home theater. The $ per improvement quotient is off the scale for adding velvet when it comes to how little money it is compared to the gains in contrast/black levels.
On the subject of rug, I originally was looking for as dark a black one as I could find until someone told be to go for a long shag pile rug in black rather than a tight pile one and I have to admit he was right, the multiple directions of the long pile seems to kill the reflections dead in the water. Might be doable to mount of the walls but the ceiling..... that’s another matter. LOL

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100% Agree with this post. Triple Black Velvet is unmatched for reducing light reflections. I used the protostar flocking tape on my actual grid and wrapped my panels in TBV. You can really see the difference in bright scenes on screen.

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Looking at that picture it would seem that any little wrinkle would lower TBV's effectiveness quite markedly.

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Looking at that picture it would seem that any little wrinkle would lower TBV's effectiveness quite markedly.
Wrinkles only have an impact on one's OCD or ego when the lights are on

Once the lights are off you cannot see any wrinkles nor does it decrease the effectiveness of reducing reflections.

I am curious as to the scientific explanation that wrinkling velvet reduces its anti-reflective properties.

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Wrinkles only have an impact on one's OCD or ego when the lights are on

Once the lights are off you cannot see any wrinkles nor does it decrease the effectiveness of reducing reflections.

I am curious as to the scientific explanation that wrinkling velvet reduces its anti-reflective properties.

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Looking at the picture, the wrinkles in the TBV are reflecting more light, hence their visibility. If it was flat the whole thing would appear uniformly black, not black with areas that are 'less black'.

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Looking at the picture, the wrinkles in the TBV are reflecting more light, hence their visibility. If it was flat the whole thing would appear uniformly black, not black with areas that are 'less black'.
So no basis in scientific fact to support the reduced anti-reflective of wrinkled velvet. Your opinion is based upon a personal preference. I understand you don't like the way it looks.

It would bother you when the lights are on and I can understand that. It would probably bother you when the lights are off, not because you could see it, but because you know it is there. It is a personal preference.

I have both wrinkled and flat TBV ceiling tiles in my theater. From MLP with lights off watching a film you nor anyone else could tell which tiles are wrinkled and which are flat. I guarantee it. You would not see any difference in the anti-reflective properties.

Do you have any wrinkled TBV in your theater? Do you have any TBV with no wrinkles in your theater? Are you basing your opinion on any personal experience that I would find valuable?

Honestly not trying to argue with you. Your opinion is based upon the way wrinkled velvet makes you feel rather than an objective understanding of how wrinkled velvet reduces reflections. Wrinkles actual create more surface area for light reflections to dissipate so wrinkled velvet is actually more effective in reducing reflections. Think of it as a prism designed to bounce light but the wrinkled velvet works in the reverse to reduce reflections. That is the science behind it. If the velvet were a reflective surface the wrinkles would increase reflectivity, just like the prism.

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So no basis in scientific fact to support the reduced anti-reflective of wrinkled velvet. Your opinion is based upon a personal preference. I understand you don't like the way it looks.

It would bother you when the lights are on and I can understand that. It would probably bother you when the lights are off, not because you could see it, but because you know it is there. It is a personal preference.

I have both wrinkled and flat TBV ceiling tiles in my theater. From MLP with lights off watching a film you nor anyone else could tell which tiles are wrinkled and which are flat. I guarantee it. You would not see any difference in the anti-reflective properties.

Do you have any wrinkled TBV in your theater? Do you have any TBV with no wrinkles in your theater? Are you basing your opinion on any personal experience that I would find valuable?

Honestly not trying to argue with you. Your opinion is based upon the way wrinkled velvet makes you feel rather than an objective understanding of how wrinkled velvet reduces reflections. Wrinkles actual create more surface area for light reflections to dissipate so wrinkled velvet is actually more effective in reducing reflections. Think of it as a prism designed to bounce light but the wrinkled velvet works in the reverse to reduce reflections. That is the science behind it. If the velvet were a reflective surface the wrinkles would increase reflectivity, just like the prism.

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Wow! So you came up with that entire post about what you have determined I perceive and like and do not like, after a single comment about a single photograph?
Good work!
I actually couldn't give a stuff either way beyond that photo.
I am just pointing out, that in said photo, you can see reflections in the material in the wrinkles themselves, meaning it is not light absorbing or indeed reflection-less.
My interest ends there. Not sure why you think it goes any further than that or that I should explain myself to you in any way..

You seem to have taken a lone comment about a single photograph, incredibly personally.

Genuinely confused at your defensiveness.

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Wow! So you came up with that entire post about what you have determined I perceive and like and do not like, after a single comment about a single photograph?

Good work!

I actually couldn't give a stuff either way beyond that photo.

I am just pointing out, that in said photo, you can see reflections in the material in the wrinkles themselves, meaning it is not light absorbing or indeed reflection-less.

My interest ends there. Not sure why you think it goes any further than that or that I should explain myself to you in any way..



You seem to have taken a lone comment about a single photograph, incredibly personally.



Genuinely confused at your defensiveness.



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I was a little pushed back at first about LED lights around the screen, but it really doesn't effect the image. However, some people find it to be a little over the top. But what can I say....I have a fish tank in the back of my room so that fits my persona.
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Thank you all for the advice on my velvet panels. I think I have made some progress. I am cautiously optimistic. I will post back later in the week with progress pics.
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I was a little pushed back at first about LED lights around the screen, but it really doesn't effect the image. However, some people find it to be a little over the top. But what can I say....I have a fish tank in the back of my room so that fits my persona.
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Wrinkles only have an impact on one's OCD or ego when the lights are on
That’s the beauty of the stuff I used, you put it on like wallpaper so zero wrinkles.... not that I’m OCD or anything.
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And to you my friend, I say; Puff and bluster!

I can only assume your original, now heavily edited post, is based on a visit you must have had from one of your 'friends' who then made (obviously unwelcome) comments about your (I guess) wrinkly velvet.
Assassination of my character aside, it did make an entertaining read this morning for me and my wife.

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I was wondering if anyone has any good pics or opinions comparing black velvet to other dark colored fabrics like spandex, commando cloth, or others. Seen lots of paints compared, but not so much fabrics. I like the idea of an all velvet room, but I really enjoy the room ambience more when its dark, but not black. Anyone use a dark colored velevet instead of black?
I used spandex for my left and right panels and triple black velvet for top and bottom and two narrow lines of triple black velvet on left and right between spandex and screen so that it creates a box of black velvet. The following pictures show the screen as well as how it looks when the light is off. It is dark but not black. I have also attached some pics when light is on.
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I can only assume your original, now heavily edited post, is based on a visit you must have had from one of your 'friends' who then made (obviously unwelcome) comments about your (I guess) wrinkly velvet.

Assassination of my character aside, it did make an entertaining read this morning for me and my wife.



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I used spandex for my left and right panels and triple black velvet for top and bottom and two narrow lines of triple black velvet on left and right between spandex and screen so that it creates a box of black velvet. The following pictures show the screen as well as how it looks when the light is off. It is dark but not black. I have also attached some pics when light is on.
Looks very professional and works great together on the screen wall. I wonder would it be more noticeable the transition from TBV to spandex and back again if used to conceal speakers on a side wall?
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I could post the original text of your post up here to show that it is in fact you that was 'braying' as you so eloquently put it, but I won't. Because I like you.

Just to make it clear to you, I wasn't referring to you, or your room, or your preferences for your décor in your room.
I just happened upon a picture of a small square triple black velvet (which I have read many times is the best thing for around the screen and often thought of using in actual fact) and noted that I was surprised that you could even see any wrinkles in it.

That's it really.


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Looks very professional and works great together on the screen wall. I wonder would it be more noticeable the transition from TBV to spandex and back again if used to conceal speakers on a side wall?
Triple velvet spandex (can you even get such a thing?) would hug everything and would be an ideal solution would it not?

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They do make stretchy black velvet - I'm not sure if it's as dark as TBV or not, but I imagine someone on here has tried it. Even if it's not as dark, the strechiness may outweigh the shade for some applications.

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Triple velvet spandex (can you even get such a thing?) would hug everything and would be an ideal solution would it not?
I’m sure there’s a market opportunity in there somewhere, especially for woman’s tights.
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They do make stretchy black velvet - I'm not sure if it's as dark as TBV or not, but I imagine someone on here has tried it. Even if it's not as dark, the strechiness may outweigh the shade for some applications.
Thinking on a ceiling it might be a nice option to just frame out the covered area and stretch it over. Would be a lot easier to work with than velvet and you wouldn't have any sag. For me, my room is 12' wide. So I could buy four yards and cover the width and go five or six feet deep with it. Could run some sort of trim piece across to make it look nice and neat.

Joann's has 60% off right now and it's 11.99 a yard at regular price. Cheapest on Amazon is 8.99/yd I believe.

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That would be perfect.

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I’m sure there’s a market opportunity in there somewhere, especially for woman’s tights.
I can imagine there would be many sparks if you made tights out of them.

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They make stretch velvet, I still have a small sample. If you stretch it too much though, you create voids between the threads that let light through. So you would likely have to wrap every panel twice with the fabric being stretched in a different direction on each layer.

If you pull normal velvet tight and staple it in place, you will not get any bubbles, it will stay perfectly flat and smooth. Adhesive tape will not hold velvet very taught.
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