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has anyone used McMaster-Carr velvet sheets with the sticky back? It's similar to protostar but a little cheaper.
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has anyone used McMaster-Carr velvet sheets with the sticky back? It's similar to protostar but a little cheaper.
I have some I have started to use to wrap around some pipes that run through my theater. It is very black. I have been having a minor problem in that the adhesive does not stick well to the velvet, so when I wrap it around the pipe, any overlap will not stick, no matter how many times I press it in place. I plan to just trim off the excess. It is about half the price of the protostar if I remember correctly.
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Thanks for the info. If I was to put it on my screen wall do you think it would stick well to painted drywall?
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Charcoal sides and back and black ceiling and front wall.
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I would like to do my front wall screen all black velvet. I have silver ticket screen and I want something similiar to the velvet frame that blocks light leakage. Rather than paint it black I would like to maybe simplify my life by hanging black velvet curtains behind the screen since it would be easy to attach curtain rods and take down when I move. My question is, does it matter what brand or kind of black velvet curtains to go with? Here is front of my room which I want to do whole wall behind the screen in black from top of ceiling to floor. What other options are easiest to do besides hanging few Black velvet curtains?
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Cool dude! You should definitely aim to make your screen wall surrounds out of black velvet. Use 'Double Velvet' from Spotlight, its brilliant.

Also if I were you , I would be also using velvet on the ceiling at least 10ft into the room. and on the side walls. Possibly even do it on the floor too, and build a mini stepped stage there. You will have the best imaginable image then.

Black paint isnt enough to stop reflections at all. Ive seen it happen. But its a start!

p/s you rebuilding your marty into sealed subs?
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Cool dude! You should definitely aim to make your screen wall surrounds out of black velvet. Use 'Double Velvet' from Spotlight, its brilliant.

Also if I were you , I would be also using velvet on the ceiling at least 10ft into the room. and on the side walls. Possibly even do it on the floor too, and build a mini stepped stage there. You will have the best imaginable image then.

Black paint isnt enough to stop reflections at all. Ive seen it happen. But its a start!

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Yeah lots of velvet to be done. Think this room is going to be slow burn to the final version. The builder could only go so far with it. I thought I had the double velvet ordered from spotlight but it got stuffed up on spotlights end. Anyeays there will be another sale soon and I will get a ton. Just looking forward to moving in this week hopefully!
Im going to try sealed and the mini marty too!

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Yeah lots of velvet to be done. Think this room is going to be slow burn to the final version. The builder could only go so far with it. I thought I had the double velvet ordered from spotlight but it got stuffed up on spotlights end. Anyeays there will be another sale soon and I will get a ton. Just looking forward to moving in this week hopefully!
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Cool man, I cant wait to build my own house, still a bit of a dream at this point.

Not easy to integrate sealed and ported subs in the same room, but whatever floats your boat brother, OT here.
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Cool man, I cant wait to build my own house, still a bit of a dream at this point.

Not easy to integrate sealed and ported subs in the same room, but whatever floats your boat brother, OT here.
The price of mdf and some glue doesnt bother me its just the time to build them but my full marty was only ever a tester.

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The price of mdf and some glue doesnt bother me its just the time to build them but my full marty was only ever a tester.

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Makes total sense mate... im just trying to work out which direction I am going to go... Think I might just build 4 VBSS subs and see how that works, maybe add two ultimax if I feel like I am missing sub-sonic, doubt I will need it tho.

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The svs pb16u is great! Its a shame about the price!!!
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Thanks for the info. If I was to put it on my screen wall do you think it would stick well to painted drywall?
Yes, absolutely. If you butt it up to itself, you may want to do a double cut like you would use for wallpaper (google it if you don't know what that is) so it doesn't overlap itself. Next to some Royalty 3 Velvet from Joanne's, it becomes invisible.
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Hey folks...I started researching room blackening on this forum...it's starting to feel like work!! Quite simply I have 2 side walls and the ceiling...I want to cover them 6-10 feet back velvet...I "think" my only question is what the easiest way to attach the fabric to the walls and ceiling, that looks professional ? I want it to have a tight edge and not sag...is there an EASY way to do this? Thanks folks.

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Hey folks...I started researching room blackening on this forum...it's starting to feel like work!! Quite simply I have 2 side walls and the ceiling...I want to cover them 6-10 feet back velvet...I "think" my only question is what the easiest way to attach the fabric to the walls and ceiling, that looks professional ? I want it to have a tight edge and not sag...is there an EASY way to do this? Thanks folks.
Not as black, but Protostar is excellent and easy to put on.
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Not as black, but Protostar is excellent and easy to put on.
Thanks, in your opinion, is it say 80 percent as effective as velvet? 90%? 70%? It looks like black wallpaper?

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Thanks, in your opinion, is it say 80 percent as effective as velvet? 90%? 70%? It looks like black wallpaper?
I would say at least. It's just not as black, yet it's very effective. If you want that "floating image" look, you cannot beat velvet but for sheer light absorption Protostar is excellent and looks very nice on the wall.

Now, for my front speakers and subs beneath my screen I have them covered in Royalty 3 velvet because I wanted maximum black out.
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Hey folks...I started researching room blackening on this forum...it's starting to feel like work!! Quite simply I have 2 side walls and the ceiling...I want to cover them 6-10 feet back velvet...I "think" my only question is what the easiest way to attach the fabric to the walls and ceiling, that looks professional ? I want it to have a tight edge and not sag...is there an EASY way to do this? Thanks folks.


I used Black Thumbtacks,worked great for me. I did the entire ceiling,screen wall,I used black velvet curtains for the sidewalls,gives it that olschool movie theater feel,black carpet also. Alot of people don't do their entire ceiling,but at least do up to the projector,this way there is no light bouncing off of the ceiling by the projector either.


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I used Black Thumbtacks,worked great for me. I did the entire ceiling,screen wall,I used black velvet curtains for the sidewalls,gives it that olschool movie theater feel,black carpet also. Alot of people don't do their entire ceiling,but at least do up to the projector,this way there is no light bouncing off of the ceiling by the projector either.


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Thanks...Do the thumbtacks show any reflectivity? Wow, my pj is 13 feet back an d the ceiling is 12 feet wide...what would u suggest the minimum distance back to do for walls and ceiling? 6 feet? 8 feet?

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Thanks...Do the thumbtacks show any reflectivity? Wow, my pj is 13 feet back an d the ceiling is 12 feet wide...what would u suggest the minimum distance back to do for walls and ceiling? 6 feet? 8 feet?


If you want total immersion than walls should be back to the seating position,Ceiling should be all the way back to projector,but that to depends how close your projector is mounted to the ceiling. I wanted total immersion in my room,I feel it's kinda dumb to buy a projector and than don't do what is needed to fully take advantage of it,but that's my opinion. My movies float in space!


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I would like to do my front wall screen all black velvet. I have silver ticket screen and I want something similiar to the velvet frame that blocks light leakage. Rather than paint it black I would like to maybe simplify my life by hanging black velvet curtains behind the screen since it would be easy to attach curtain rods and take down when I move. My question is, does it matter what brand or kind of black velvet curtains to go with? Here is front of my room which I want to do whole wall behind the screen in black from top of ceiling to floor. What other options are easiest to do besides hanging few Black velvet curtains?
I'm using a mix of Royalty 3 and Syfabrics triple black velvet in my room. I'm using black thumb tacks to hold it in place. Admittedly with the lights on my theater is ugly, it has a certain function over form look that had worsened with time. However once the lights shut off my room is incredibly dark.

My method was quick, easy, and effective If you're okay with it not being the most beautiful setup it isn't a terrible way to go.

Just a warning. I started just planning on black velvet on the front screen wall. I now have it almost all the way back behind my seats plus a good amount of the ceiling done (it's a work in progress). That doesn't include the velvet "jackets" for my speakers or the masking for my screen.

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I am planning on getting a 110 inch 16:9 screen, and putting it on a wall that is 13ft wide x 8 ft tall. I want to cover the wall around the screen with either JoAnn Black Velvet or JoAnn Black Blizzard Fleece. What would be the best way to do this, so that there are no seams visible on the wall where the fabric cuts meet? Thanks!
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A few posts ago I mentioned my black out project not being pretty but getting the job done. I figured I would come back with a picture to show the results thus far. Interesting thing I've noticed, the further this project gets the more difficult it is to get a good picture in my theater.


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A few posts ago I mentioned my black out project not being pretty but getting the job done. I figured I would come back with a picture to show the results thus far. Interesting thing I've noticed, the further this project gets the more difficult it is to get a good picture in my theater.

Nice,

What projector have you got now? The problem/reality of treating a room properly, low contrast projectors will now stick out like a sore thumb!

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What projector have you got now? The problem/reality of treating a room properly, low contrast projectors will now stick out like a sore thumb!
I have a JVC RS400. Blacking the room out has been great so far, it makes me feel that I'm actually able to properly use the contrast that the JVC gives me. Especially considering that the light tan walls in the room are horribly reflective.
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Further down the rabbit hole...

Just took delivery of a 12' X 12' black area carpet to lay over the lighter carpet in the basement. Just waiting for it to thaw.

Also, we're just finishing painting the walls a few different shades of grey, it was cork before!

So let's see, black screen wall... check. Black carpet... check. Total light control... almost. Black ceiling tiles and black grid with newly painted black surrounds on the lights... check. Darker side and back walls... check.

Now, I've bought quite a few yards of the Royalty velvet and trying to decide what to do with it.
Thinking of making a velvet curtain on the side of the room that leads to the stairs and the only potential source of light.

The wonderful thing is, my family agrees with the changes! Who knew???
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Further down the rabbit hole...

Just took delivery of a 12' X 12' black area carpet to lay over the lighter carpet in the basement. Just waiting for it to thaw.

Also, we're just finishing painting the walls a few different shades of grey, it was cork before!

So let's see, black screen wall... check. Black carpet... check. Total light control... almost. Black ceiling tiles and black grid with newly painted black surrounds on the lights... check. Darker side and back walls... check.

Now, I've bought quite a few yards of the Royalty velvet and trying to decide what to do with it.
Thinking of making a velvet curtain on the side of the room that leads to the stairs and the only potential source of light.

The wonderful thing is, my family agrees with the changes! Who knew???
I would love to know where you found such a large black area rug. My carpet is one of the things in my theater that is still super reflective. I would love to fix that problem.

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Now, I've bought quite a few yards of the Royalty velvet and trying to decide what to do with it.
Thinking of making a velvet curtain on the side of the room that leads to the stairs and the only potential source of light.

The wonderful thing is, my family agrees with the changes! Who knew???
It's easy to make curtains from the royalty 3. be careful once you start it's impossible to stop.

There is nothing like watching a good 3D movie with total immersion, no reflections to be seen in the room.





even the 18" subs get the Royalty 3 treatment

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I searched for quite a while to find a suitable black carpet for a reasonable price and finally settled on the following...

Masland Carpet Collection
Style - Hemingway
Pattern - 9426
Colour - 899 Deep Sea (black)

I ordered 12' X 12' and paid to have it bound on all 4 sides.

Here area couple of pictures with the carpet rolled out.
Should have the baseboards finished tomorrow, hopefully in time to demo my JVC X35 so I can upgrade to the new X570.

And yes I agree... Velvet curtains are definitely next! I also love the velvet on your sub. Time to wrap the MFW 15's!
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the room looks great, nice progress! We have similar carpet from Masland, it makes a huge difference in the room.

I also have the RS46 (X35) and the RS600. As the room gets darker you'll appreciate the low APL scenes more with the JVC's.

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It's easy to make curtains from the royalty 3. be careful once you start it's impossible to stop.

There is nothing like watching a good 3D movie with total immersion, no reflections to be seen in the room.





even the 18" subs get the Royalty 3 treatment

Looking good. Got pics showing how you made curtains out of the fabric? Did you use curtain rods? Got pics of the room with lights on?......wait thats impossible right cause its too black! LOL

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