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I tried shorter cables, i think the shortest i tried between receiver and projector was about 10 ft though. The projector is ceiling mounted so i'd have to take it down to try 6ft or less. What could the denon receiver be doing to the signal that the blu ray player and DVR don't do??? I've tried converting the signal to every possible resolution, i've tried pass through mode with the receiver power off, the projector just won't work with the receiver.

Today i ordered these and cat 6 patch cable, and i'll try that between the receiver and the projector.
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Epson responded to my query about the V112 firmware. The only change from V111 was to update one of the service menus available to authorized service providers - no other modifications or image enhancements/improvements ...
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For those of you using a 92" screen (or thereabouts), are you shooting for 16 ftL when calibrating brightness? I'll be watching mainly in the dark, and probably using THX mode.
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hey guys iam going to pull the trigger on this projector, my question is, this projector was first shipped out in 2013, its now recently 2016.. is there a newer model of this projector out? is there one planned for 2016?
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hey guys iam going to pull the trigger on this projector, my question is, this projector was first shipped out in 2013, its now recently 2016.. is there a newer model of this projector out? is there one planned for 2016?
No newer model, and I haven't seen any announced replacement for 2016.
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Epson responded to my query about the V112 firmware. The only change from V111 was to update one of the service menus available to authorized service providers - no other modifications or image enhancements/improvements ...
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What's a good setting for super resolution? Default is 3. Also, any other settings I should change from the THX defaults? I just got my projector today, and it is awesome so far. The Elite Screens (tripod screen) I ordered is a piece of crap, so I'm sending it back. For now, I'm just throwing the image on a wall, and it's halfway decent.

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Great deal on 3D glasses

Panasonic RF -


are only 17.95 over at Amazon right now. Just tried them they work fine little smaller than the Epsons but still fit over my R/X glasses OK . These are rechargeable and used to cost 79.95 !

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Panasonic RF -


are only 17.95 over at Amazon right now. Just tried them they work fine little smaller than the Epsons but still fit over my R/X glasses OK . These are rechargeable and used to cost 79.95 !
.com or .ca? Link? I found a couple on .com but for $49 and $99...

Ok found them now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007EH...kTL&ref=plSrch

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I second that recommendation.
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Hi guys,

Is anyone here running a 5030 (or even 5020 or 5010) with a first row viewing distance of 1.0x the screen diagonal and, if so, can you comment on picture quality?
I am contemplating a first row with eye balls 12 feet (cannot be moved back) from a 140 inch diagonal screen and wondering if pixellation will be so bad that I will want a 4k projector for such a close viewing distance.
Any advice or experiences would be welcome.

Thanks.
I'm at about 11' from a 110"screen. I see no screen door unless I get within 5' or so. I had an early Panasonic LCD pj (pre HDMI) and it was an issue back then. Not now. The PQ is better than my neighborhood cinema - which could use some re-calbration.
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Should 'superwhite' be left on (default in THX)?
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Should 'superwhite' be left on (default in THX)?
Yes. Superwhite allows you to see whiter than white content. However, Superwhite does force you to 16-235 rather than 0-255 color space. This is only important if you a good reason to use the 0-255 color space.
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Yes. Superwhite allows you to see whiter than white content. However, Superwhite does force you to 16-235 rather than 0-255 color space. This is only important if you a good reason to use the 0-255 color space.
Thanks. I think this has been the way my setups have been in the past (I've always seen above white on the test patterns).
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One more quick noobie question...what's the diff between THX and cinema modes? The manual says THX is best for projecting in a dark room, while cinema is best for projecting movies in a dark room
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Colors in cinema are over saturated and the gamma curve is more aggressive than in THX. Colors in THX are slightly undersaturated, but gamma tracks very well by default. @Kilgore had great success calibrating Cinema by pulling the over saturated colors into the 709 spec. While I could get the colors right in Cinema, I could never get gamma to track properly. In THX I was able to nail gamma, and get colors almost perfect.

If you're not planning on calibrating with a meter, stick with THX. If you're calibrating, I'd recommend trying out both modes, and going with whatever gets you the best results.
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Without calibration I just find Cinema mode rhe more attractive mode.
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That's not surprising. The colors in Cinema are over saturated, but not absurdly so. The result is that, things have more pop without looking fake. While not quite technically as accurate, it's very pleasing. In the next week or two I'm going to take a pass at calibrating Cinema mode again.
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Interesting. I'll have to take a look at both modes. I'm pretty impressed with the image on my crappy, yellowish white wall, so I am hoping it looks even better on my screen. I ended up ordering a Da-lite Picture King. I tried an Elite Screens first, but it was really poor quality.

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Not sure if this was covered somewhere else, but what's the best way to focus the projector? I've used the built-in pattern with good success, but since I have to manually focus, I can't get close to the image (which is on the other side of the room).
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Not sure if this was covered somewhere else, but what's the best way to focus the projector? I've used the built-in pattern with good success, but since I have to manually focus, I can't get close to the image (which is on the other side of the room).
If you have another person to help, have them focus while you stand near the screen.

If not, try binoculars.
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Ha, I was actually going to make a joke about using binocs, but I may just try it
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I just did the back and forth method: Focus...walk to the screen...walk back...refocus...walk to the screen...walk back...etc...

It didn't take too long for me. I like the AVS HD 709 convergence pattern for focusing. It gives you a lot more material on the screen to look at to determine focus.
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I just did the back and forth method: Focus...walk to the screen...walk back...refocus...walk to the screen...walk back...etc...

It didn't take too long for me. I like the AVS HD 709 convergence pattern for focusing. It gives you a lot more material on the screen to look at to determine focus.
Thanks, I'll give that pattern a try. Also, do you use super resolution? I had that AVS pattern up, and super res at any setting (even 1) added artifact to the image. I normally disable all the picture "enhancing" features. In this case, I made an exception for auto iris, as I've read it really helps the black levels.
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Thanks, I'll give that pattern a try. Also, do you use super resolution? I had that AVS pattern up, and super res at any setting (even 1) added artifact to the image. I normally disable all the picture "enhancing" features. In this case, I made an exception for auto iris, as I've read it really helps the black levels.
I find the picture really soft without super-res. I put it at 1 or 2.
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It does look a little soft to me, too, after going from 'on' to 'off', but I think some of it could just be my eyes playing tricks on me, kind of like how the colors look dull and yellowish when looking at a calibrated picture immediately after viewing one that's too blue. I guess super res can make the image look sharper, but it's artificial.
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Thanks, I'll give that pattern a try. Also, do you use super resolution? I had that AVS pattern up, and super res at any setting (even 1) added artifact to the image. I normally disable all the picture "enhancing" features. In this case, I made an exception for auto iris, as I've read it really helps the black levels.
Super resolution makes test patterns as well as fine text on a computer look off. I struggled with that for quite a while, considering how obvious it was when I was looking at a test pattern. In the end I had to come to terms with the fact that I don't watch test patterns. I watch content, and when watching content, I feel it looks quite a bit better with SR enabled. I vary it between 1 and 3, depending on what I'm doing. When I'm using my HTPC for anything other than watching video, I set it at 1. When I'm watching blu rays, I'll bump it as high as 3. When I stream, I usually keep it at 2.
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Super resolution makes test patterns as well as fine text on a computer look off. I struggled with that for quite a while, considering how obvious it was when I was looking at a test pattern. In the end I had to come to terms with the fact that I don't watch test patterns. I watch content, and when watching content, I feel it looks quite a bit better with SR enabled. I vary it between 1 and 3, depending on what I'm doing. When I'm using my HTPC for anything other than watching video, I set it at 1. When I'm watching blu rays, I'll bump it as high as 3. When I stream, I usually keep it at 2.
Good to know, thanks!
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5030 owner, watched Jurassic World 3D last night, I noticed if I moved the 3D Depth setting higher than zero black letterbox bars appeared at the SIDES of the image getting wider as the number went higher so I left it at zero so the image filled the screen horizontally. Is this behavior per design? I cannot imagine anyone using that setting based on what it does to the width of the image.
Jurassic World is an unusual aspect ratio. It is 2.00:1 compared with the more normal Scope format of 2.39:1.
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I wasn't sure abour SR until I watched the first scene of Gravity (space shuttle with the Earth behind). The Earth wasn't sharp enough for my taste. At 1 or 2, I haven't noticed artifacts.
I'm no expert though! Just playing with a projector (and having great fun!).
Watched BBC Africa yesterday : impressive! I'll try to rewatch it with SR = 0.
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