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fyi - you can get comparable models designed for the horizontal polarization for less cost here:

https://www.hi-shock.de/en/rf-pro-hi...-900-polarized
Cheers, I’m not that keen on the bulk, shape and gloss finish on those, also not sure how they may or may not fit over prescription specs, I have seen one of the hi shock models though which do look good but they are not horizontal polarised, I only have a basic 1.0 gain white screen but even a 5-10% increase in brightness is good!.

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I bought my JVC Emitter and glasses from eBay for about $170.

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I have thats RF Pro High Diamond | 3D glasses for JVC projectors | 90° polarize"


they works perfect...
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Ahh ok thanks, much the same cost as in the uk if you order a pair in. Reading back a few years they were super cheap and came with an emitter to!.

Which JVC projector and screen do you have? The glasses that came in that kit were the standard Xpand 105RF's that were not specifically designed for the e-shift JVC's horizontal polarization. Those are available today for ~$40

We have some evidence from several members that the new 4K lamp based JVC's have change the polarity and now the standard inexpensive glasses would work well even with screens that have high polarization retention.
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Which JVC projector and screen do you have? The glasses that came in that kit were the standard Xpand 105RF's that were not specifically designed for the e-shift JVC's horizontal polarization. Those are available today for ~$40

We have some evidence from several members that the new 4K lamp based JVC's have change the polarity and now the standard inexpensive glasses would work well even with screens that have high polarization retention.
I have the X7900, and my screen is Sapphire 106” 16:9. I do have many glasses from Samsung SSG3100 which are pretty good, the normal XpandVision X105 RF and a pair of specific vCard glasses with the correct polarisation. I can use them all ok on my screen but there’s a 5-10% increase in brightness with the JVC glasses. I thought if I could pick up a pair of the cheaper XpandVision X3 I would of done.

That’s interesting regarding the new native 4K jvcs, I haven’t been reading up very much about them as here in the UK nobody except a couple of dealers have the N5 or N7 as yet, what’s the early verdict on how 3D is on them ?.

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I have the X7900, and my screen is Sapphire 106” 16:9. I do have many glasses from Samsung SSG3100 which are pretty good, the normal XpandVision X105 RF and a pair of specific vCard glasses with the correct polarisation. I can use them all ok on my screen but there’s a 5-10% increase in brightness with the JVC glasses. I thought if I could pick up a pair of the cheaper XpandVision X3 I would of done.

That’s interesting regarding the new native 4K jvcs, I haven’t been reading up very much about them as here in the UK nobody except a couple of dealers have the N5 or N7 as yet, what’s the early verdict on how 3D is on them ?.

there isn't much info yet other than the topic of the polarization change. I have the RS2000 on order and should be here soon. I'll post info once I have a chance to look over the 3D.

I just picked up some titles recently. Smallfoot 3D & Incredibles 2 were excellent. Way more fun than their 2D counterparts. Thor was a lot of fun in 3D as well. Tonight i'm watching House of Wax, one of the few 3D titles I haven't seen yet. The case is lenticular and has a great 3D look to it.


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there isn't much info yet other than the topic of the polarization change. I have the RS2000 on order and should be here soon. I'll post info once I have a chance to look over the 3D.

I just picked up some titles recently. Smallfoot 3D & Incredibles 2 were excellent. Way more fun than their 2D counterparts. Thor was a lot of fun in 3D as well. Tonight i'm watching House of Wax, one of the few 3D titles I haven't seen yet. The case is lenticular and has a great 3D look to it.


That will be interesting, I shall keep an eye out for your feedback on the 3D performance, nobody’s interested in 3D in the uk anymore so getting early feedback from dealers is a no go. I have only just had my x7900 so swapping out isn’t an option for some time but I’m always interested in 3D performance. I had 3 previous x5900, the first had absolutely perfect 3D with zero ghosting but had a very loud noise like a hammering sound so was exchanged right away, the 2nd unit was quiet, had perfect gamma and 2D etc but terrible ghosting with 3D so that was e changed, the 3rd was acceptable as long as it was warmed up for 20 minutes before watching 3D but had a noisy eshift. A few months later I took a leap and went with the x7900 which s fine but does need 20-30 minutes warm up otherwise ghosting is evident.

I agree, incredibles 2 was very good, I wish we could have the first film in 3D to. Thor was great fun with some solid 3D, small foot is out in a couple of weeks here in the uk so I’m looking forward to that one. House of wax has some very taxing 3D so you may see a little ghosting but it’s a fantastic watch!.

I’m so pleased that The third how to train your dragon is now available for pre order, I love those.
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there isn't much info yet other than the topic of the polarization change. I have the RS2000 on order and should be here soon. I'll post info once I have a chance to look over the 3D.

I just picked up some titles recently. Smallfoot 3D & Incredibles 2 were excellent. Way more fun than their 2D counterparts. Thor was a lot of fun in 3D as well. Tonight i'm watching House of Wax, one of the few 3D titles I haven't seen yet. The case is lenticular and has a great 3D look to it.


Hi,
Did you manage to get your RS2000 yet ?, early tests on an N7 in the uk are saying 3D is Dimmer and requires high lamp, I’m not quite sure which screens are being used but apparently there’s no difference in brightness when tilting your head 90 degrees so it seems it’s not glasses incompatibility.

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Hey guys, I just got a new NX7, and I have 6 pairs of the Sony PS3 3D glasses that I used with my Panasonic AE8000U. Are those something that would work with an xpand 3D IR emitter on the JVC? Does Xpand only have one emitter? Not sure which one I'd need to get. Also I know there was a lot of talk about the polarity being different, has that been confirmed one way or the other?

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there isn't much info yet other than the topic of the polarization change. I have the RS2000 on order and should be here soon. I'll post info once I have a chance to look over the 3D.

I just picked up some titles recently. Smallfoot 3D & Incredibles 2 were excellent. Way more fun than their 2D counterparts. Thor was a lot of fun in 3D as well. Tonight i'm watching House of Wax, one of the few 3D titles I haven't seen yet. The case is lenticular and has a great 3D look to it.


Hi, Not sure if you received my pm’s but I’m wondering how your finding 3D on your RS2000 ?.

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I have the emitter from JVC. (Had it from a previous purchase). I now have the NX9 running it. The 3D of this projector is FANTASTIC!. I had 4 pairs of the original JVC glasses, and since the polarization is now vertical, I had to buy new glasses. I bought the Xpand ones on amazon. very cheap in price compared to the original JVC's.



They work perfectly and are actually lighter and fit better than the JVC's. you forget you're wearing them. They also fit well over my prescription glasses.

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Hi, Not sure if you received my pm’s but I’m wondering how your finding 3D on your RS2000 ?.
Hi, sorry for delay. The 3D is very good on the RS2000 and basically the same as the current e-shift projectors. Meaning the x-talk control is very good but for those sensitive to the 48hz per eye flicker, it's the same if not a bit more aggressive in this area.

All of the Sony projectors are the same for 3D flicker, only the Epson's escape this but have more x-talk. DLP's are rock solid in this area but don't have the native contrast of the other 3 manufacturers. for certain movies like bright animations, I prefer my Sharp 3D DLP projector and darker movies like Venom 3D I'll use the JVC.
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Hi, sorry for delay. The 3D is very good on the RS2000 and basically the same as the current e-shift projectors. Meaning the x-talk control is very good but for those sensitive to the 48hz per eye flicker, it's the same if not a bit more aggressive in this area.

All of the Sony projectors are the same for 3D flicker, only the Epson's escape this but have more x-talk. DLP's are rock solid in this area but don't have the native contrast of the other 3 manufacturers. for certain movies like bright animations, I prefer my Sharp 3D DLP projector and darker movies like Venom 3D I'll use the JVC.
Hi, cheers for that, I had a DLP myself and 3D was excellent and completely crosstalk free as you say but contrast wasn’t great. Have you measured any light output for 3D as a few reports have mentioned the N7 isn’t as bright for 3D as the eshift units were ?.

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Hi, cheers for that, I had a DLP myself and 3D was excellent and completely crosstalk free as you say but contrast wasn’t great. Have you measured any light output for 3D as a few reports have mentioned the N7 isn’t as bright for 3D as the eshift units were ?.
Hi, yes I did some quick measurements. It's about the same as the e-shift units. perhaps they had a screen that retains polarization and now the orientation of the panels has changed from horizontal to vertical, so maybe an issue with the specific glasses they were using. My 2.8HP retains none and it looked basically the same as the RS600.

one thing worth mentioning is that the native scaling from 1080P -> UHD isn't great on the new models so there is a bit of jaggies you can see on sharp angles when closer to the screen. it's not really noticeable from seating distance though. just an observation that others have mentioned with 1080P content on the new models. for BD's it's best to allow the player to scale to UHD but for 3D there isn't really any options since it has to stay at 1080P frame packed. Maybe something that can be improved in a firmware update somewhere down the line.
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Hi, yes I did some quick measurements. It's about the same as the e-shift units. perhaps they had a screen that retains polarization and now the orientation of the panels has changed from horizontal to vertical, so maybe an issue with the specific glasses they were using. My 2.8HP retains none and it looked basically the same as the RS600.

one thing worth mentioning is that the native scaling from 1080P -> UHD isn't great on the new models so there is a bit of jaggies you can see on sharp angles when closer to the screen. it's not really noticeable from seating distance though. just an observation that others have mentioned with 1080P content on the new models. for BD's it's best to allow the player to scale to UHD but for 3D there isn't really any options since it has to stay at 1080P frame packed. Maybe something that can be improved in a firmware update somewhere down the line.
Yes it could be the glasses I guess, even with a non polarised screen I find a 5-10% increase in brightness using JVC over xpand on my x7900 so it could be vice verse on the new models.

I would of thought there would be less jaggies with 4K panels, I find the X to display 1080p very nicely, infact I tend to swap on a film by film basis between the projector and the player upscaling 1080. On a side note my year old JVC glasses snicked last week in the usual nose bridge area despit the leg widening adjustment for comfort, that’s the JVC and 2 pairs of x105 now.

Do you use your 2.8 gain screen solely for 3D or everything ?, do you see any issues such as hotspots or sparklies ?.

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Hi, yes I did some quick measurements. It's about the same as the e-shift units. perhaps they had a screen that retains polarization and now the orientation of the panels has changed from horizontal to vertical, so maybe an issue with the specific glasses they were using. My 2.8HP retains none and it looked basically the same as the RS600.

one thing worth mentioning is that the native scaling from 1080P -> UHD isn't great on the new models so there is a bit of jaggies you can see on sharp angles when closer to the screen. it's not really noticeable from seating distance though. just an observation that others have mentioned with 1080P content on the new models. for BD's it's best to allow the player to scale to UHD but for 3D there isn't really any options since it has to stay at 1080P frame packed. Maybe something that can be improved in a firmware update somewhere down the line.
I am confused is it horizontal/JVC or vertical/ordinary polarization glasses for the latest JVC projectors ?

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I am confused is it horizontal/JVC or vertical/ordinary polarization glasses for the latest JVC projectors ?
The e-shift projectors are horizontal /custom JVC glases, the new 4K models are vertical / regular 3D glasses
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The e-shift projectors are horizontal /custom JVC glases, the new 4K models are vertical / regular 3D glasses
Hi, did you see my question about your 2.8 gain screen ?,

I’m trying to find a pair of Xpand 105 X3 glasses, Kalibrate in the uk no longer sell them. I might search eBay and see what I can find.

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Hi, did you see my question about your 2.8 gain screen ?,

I’m trying to find a pair of Xpand 105 X3 glasses, Kalibrate in the uk no longer sell them. I might search eBay and see what I can find.
Hi, I use the 2.8HP for all viewing 2D/3D BD + UHD. It was way ahead of it's time for 3D and works excellent with UHD as well. I run low lamp in UHD mode and it's still plenty bright. With my seating arrangement (4 seats across the ~11 wide screen) there is no hot spotting from ~15 feet from screen, it's very uniform from each seating position.

These look like they are still available if you can't find the X3 glasses:

https://www.hi-shock.de/en/rf-pro-hi...-900-polarized
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Anyone know if the epson Eplgs03 glasses will work with the jvc emitter and an n5?
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Anyone know if the epson Eplgs03 glasses will work with the jvc emitter and an n5?
Hi, yes those will work fine with the JVC's (e-shift + 4K) and the JVC or Xpand RF emitter. The Sony RF glasses also work ok as well.
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Hi, yes those will work fine with the JVC's (e-shift + 4K) and the JVC or Xpand RF emitter. The Sony RF glasses also work ok as well.
Great, thanks.
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Is there a non-JVC IR emitter that will work with the new line?

Tried an Xpand one from ebay, but it just caused there to be a high pitched noise (didn't see if 3D worked before disconnecting).

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I have an IR emitter with 2 pairs of glasses (one original JVC PKAG1BP and one Xpand 103). I was looking for some advice...Currently have a JVC eshift projector.
I can either buy 2 extra IR glasses or go the RF route.

If I go the IR route, I would want 2 pairs that are lighter weight (likely 3rd party and decently priced as well). Any suggestions?


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If I go the RF route, I would obviously need to buy the RF emitter. So first question is.. are the XPAND 105 polarized correctly for JVC eshift? Are there any other suggestions (lightweight/not super expensive)?

Also, I own 2 pairs that I believe are RF... came with with my Samsung Plasma, i'm just not sure if it's polarized correctly -- is there a way to tell since I dont have a way to test it without the emitter?
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Is there a difference between the PK-EM2 and the PK-EM2G? I can't seem to tell. Some places the 'G' is on there, and some places it isn't.

Anybody know? Are they even different or are they interchangeable?

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I have an IR emitter with 2 pairs of glasses (one original JVC PKAG1BP and one Xpand 103). I was looking for some advice...Currently have a JVC eshift projector.
I can either buy 2 extra IR glasses or go the RF route.

If I go the IR route, I would want 2 pairs that are lighter weight (likely 3rd party and decently priced as well). Any suggestions?


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If I go the RF route, I would obviously need to buy the RF emitter. So first question is.. are the XPAND 105 polarized correctly for JVC eshift? Are there any other suggestions (lightweight/not super expensive)?

Also, I own 2 pairs that I believe are RF... came with with my Samsung Plasma, i'm just not sure if it's polarized correctly -- is there a way to tell since I dont have a way to test it without the emitter?
You may want to browse this entire thread. There's much good information, but different people have different results. I like the Sony Playstation IR glasses, they worked well with my Sony, but I cannot say for sure how they work with JVC IR. From reading on here, if you have a polarization-retaining screen, you want the XPAND X105-RF-X3, which are apparently hard to get. If your screen is polarization-scrambling (most?) then the easier to acquire X105-RF-X1 will work fine as I understand.

The only thing - how the heck do you determine if your screen is polarization retaining? Look at it with polarized sunglasses?

If you already have the IR stuff, then it's up to you to decide whether to go RF. If IR is working great for you, why change it? Save some $$$. I'd only switch if I was running into issues.
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Is there a difference between the PK-EM2 and the PK-EM2G? I can't seem to tell. Some places the 'G' is on there, and some places it isn't.

Anybody know? Are they even different or are they interchangeable?
They are identical. The same parts sometimes have different suffixes added for different regions of distribution. JVC only makes 1 RF transmitter so you can feel safe buying it regardless of the part # variances.
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You may want to browse this entire thread. There's much good information, but different people have different results. I like the Sony Playstation IR glasses, they worked well with my Sony, but I cannot say for sure how they work with JVC IR. From reading on here, if you have a polarization-retaining screen, you want the XPAND X105-RF-X3, which are apparently hard to get. If your screen is polarization-scrambling (most?) then the easier to acquire X105-RF-X1 will work fine as I understand.

The only thing - how the heck do you determine if your screen is polarization retaining? Look at it with polarized sunglasses?

If you already have the IR stuff, then it's up to you to decide whether to go RF. If IR is working great for you, why change it? Save some $$$. I'd only switch if I was running into issues.
Yeah I decided to hold off and keep my IR glasses (for now at least)

BTW, you can tell if your screen retains polarization by turning the glasses in a 90 degree angle (or your head, while wearing them) and observe the difference in brightness. If brightness is about the same both ways, then there's no polarization (thanks to Zombie10k for this info)

What's funny is...sunglasses... when I wear my polarized sunglasses, I can barely see my phone's screen because of polarization!

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Welp now I have an extra PK-EM2 emitter and a 3 din extension cable. Anybody have a need?
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Welp now I have an extra PK-EM2 emitter and a 3 din extension cable. Anybody have a need?

Where did you get the 3 din extension cable from been looking for one of those ?
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